henno13
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GR34 wrote:

Harmor wrote:

With all the accidential gun shootings kids have now adays, when and how should you introduce guns?  How do you teach them they are not toys?
From day one, as soon as they pop out hand em a glock.

Shoot them that will teach them its not a toy
somehow i think that takes it too far
Flecco
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Adams_BJ wrote:

Very early, if they are around unloaded and safe guns from and early age they don't have that "omg its a gunzorz" thought when they see one and decide to play with it. They won't want to play with it and if they do handle it they could do it safely.
I grew up with several guns in the house.

I still get that OMFG GUNZ thing happening. Idk, I just find it fun to make holes in tin cans with a .22. The pinging sound is awsm.
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Flecco wrote:

Adams_BJ wrote:

Very early, if they are around unloaded and safe guns from and early age they don't have that "omg its a gunzorz" thought when they see one and decide to play with it. They won't want to play with it and if they do handle it they could do it safely.
I grew up with several guns in the house.

I still get that OMFG GUNZ thing happening. Idk, I just find it fun to make holes in tin cans with a .22. The pinging sound is awsm.
I only got that with the Austeyrs and Minimis (SAW).

Oh and the Auslav's guns But those aren't exactly the standard .22
liquidat0r
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Never, I guess.

I'm 18 and have never held so much as a BB gun (actually I think I may have held a cheap BB gun in a shop before, but never bought it - and thus have never fired one). I know nothing about guns and right now I have no reason to.

I guess the mentality is different in America, though.
Flecco
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Adams_BJ wrote:

Flecco wrote:

Adams_BJ wrote:

Very early, if they are around unloaded and safe guns from and early age they don't have that "omg its a gunzorz" thought when they see one and decide to play with it. They won't want to play with it and if they do handle it they could do it safely.
I grew up with several guns in the house.

I still get that OMFG GUNZ thing happening. Idk, I just find it fun to make holes in tin cans with a .22. The pinging sound is awsm.
I only got that with the Austeyrs and Minimis (SAW).

Oh and the Auslav's guns But those aren't exactly the standard .22
Army cadets?

They have the RAAF cadets up here but I wasn't keen when I was younger. The Chair Force doesn't appeal anyway.

Only steyrs I've seen up close were the ones NORFORCE were fucking about with at the local yearly... Err... Idk festival I guess. Idk what to call it. Up in Gove they have a NORFORCE barracks, rather small compound.

They had three on chains bolted to a desk and they were allowing people to work the bolts on them but that's about it. I was like 12 at the time.
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She won't have a hard time finding a date.
I'd do her.
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Little BaBy JESUS
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Flecco wrote:

Adams_BJ wrote:

Flecco wrote:

I grew up with several guns in the house.

I still get that OMFG GUNZ thing happening. Idk, I just find it fun to make holes in tin cans with a .22. The pinging sound is awsm.
I only got that with the Austeyrs and Minimis (SAW).

Oh and the Auslav's guns But those aren't exactly the standard .22
Army cadets?

They have the RAAF cadets up here but I wasn't keen when I was younger. The Chair Force doesn't appeal anyway.

Only steyrs I've seen up close were the ones NORFORCE were fucking about with at the local yearly... Err... Idk festival I guess. Idk what to call it. Up in Gove they have a NORFORCE barracks, rather small compound.

They had three on chains bolted to a desk and they were allowing people to work the bolts on them but that's about it. I was like 12 at the time.
I did work experience at a RAAF base and one of the ADG guys let me fire a steyr but it was only the .22 training version

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liquidat0r wrote:

Never, I guess.

I'm 18 and have never held so much as a BB gun (actually I think I may have held a cheap BB gun in a shop before, but never bought it - and thus have never fired one). I know nothing about guns and right now I have no reason to.

I guess the mentality is different in America, though.
Same, except I went to Italy one summer when I was 16 and me and my friend bought some BB guns. Mainly used to fire at cans in our room and such. I tried to smuggle it back to Iceland but got busted in customs, oh well
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I taught my self that guns are not toys etc, but without actually touching or using them, but by just knowing what they can do.

My dad told me some things about M16s though, since he used them in the army.

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Uzique
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Dookie0119 wrote:

I taught my self that guns are not toys etc, but without actually touching or using them, but by just knowing what they can do.

My dad told me some things about M16s though, since he used them in the army.
A Brit using M16's?

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Dookie0119
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Uzique wrote:

Dookie0119 wrote:

I taught my self that guns are not toys etc, but without actually touching or using them, but by just knowing what they can do.

My dad told me some things about M16s though, since he used them in the army.
A Brit using M16's?

Israeli army.
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Jebus
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The_Sniper_NM wrote:

Wont matter much in awhile anyways...

Showing how the gun works and what it can do is helpful from an early age. 3rd grade was when I got my first BB Gun. Fired a real gun in 4th, which happened to be a 12 gauge shot gun XD. Moderation is necessary sure, but knowing how a gun works and what it can do is more important. The unknown is what can kill a curious 8 yr old, or any age person for that matter. Being taught how a gun works and the proper methods of use  probably has instilled in me a passion for firearms for the rest of my life.

Just fucking got a Bushmaster AR-15 Varminter for my 16th birthday, excited as fuck. Great, great rifle.

Edit: http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l111/ … minter.gif

Same Rifle, similar optics, no sholder strap

Edit2: Ill get real pics later this week probably.
Fuckin' americans!

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max
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My dad let me play with a (unloaded of course) gun when I was 5. With 6 he taught me all the safety rules and gave me a .22 as an xmas present. Then followed years and years of supervised shooting.

Pretty normal for central Switzerland.

Come to think of it I've never shot a BB-gun in my life
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CrazeD
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Parker wrote:

i got my first rifle when i turned 12.
Got my first at 10, for hunting.

It's been hanging up in my room ever since I got it. With ammo underneath it.

I'm still alive an kickin'.
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max wrote:

My dad let me play with a (unloaded of course) gun when I was 5. With 6 he taught me all the safety rules and gave me a .22 as an xmas present. Then followed years and years of supervised shooting.

Pretty normal for central Switzerland.

Come to think of it I've never shot a BB-gun in my life
I put one on my friends ass cheek and pulled the trigger. What followed was a 5cm diameter bruise and no sitting down for ~2 weeks.

Oh how we all laughed.
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Zimmer
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Slarty wrote:

Winston_Churchill wrote:

Don't let them near guns/don't have guns?
Yup.

Some dad thinks it's cool that his 11 y/o daughter can strip and rebuild a weapon. Fuck sake.
Actually, wrong. Very very wrong. Why?

Take Britain for example, in comparison with the rest of Europe. Children are told that drinking is bad and is not recommended from a very early age - they are shown that it is stupid and that it should never ever be touched. They are never told anything about it and are expected to find out for themselves. Drinking in Britain is like a banished secret. You drink but you don't shout it out loud.

Now, because of this, it is the worst country for boozing and for binge drinking. Especially with children as young as 11. If you don't introduce something to a child in a positive manner and explain to them WHY it is bad, it can cause horrific problems.

It's like a vaccine - you inject part of the virus into the body so the body is introduced to it and can fight it. This isn't done in Britain, you are never introduced to it until it's too late and you start binge drinking.

On the other hand, Europe is a much safer place for drinking because children are introduced to it from a young age. They accept it in their society and learn to drink appropriately and in the appropriate places.

This should be applied with anything. You banish something from a child, they will have a larger urge to try it than if you introduce it to them early.

Yes, maybe that video is a bit farfetched, but it's not wrong. A child should know what a gun is and why it should never be used. It shouldn't be a banned item which is thought to be incredibly terrible.
aerodynamic
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they will learn by themselves playing Counter Strike / Americas Army / Battlefield 2 and ArmA.
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Zimmer
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aerodynamic wrote:

they will learn by themselves playing Counter Strike / Americas Army / Battlefield 2 and ArmA.
That's not good either, because that technically "promotes gun play".
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Flecco wrote:

Adams_BJ wrote:

Flecco wrote:

I grew up with several guns in the house.

I still get that OMFG GUNZ thing happening. Idk, I just find it fun to make holes in tin cans with a .22. The pinging sound is awsm.
I only got that with the Austeyrs and Minimis (SAW).

Oh and the Auslav's guns But those aren't exactly the standard .22
Army cadets?

They have the RAAF cadets up here but I wasn't keen when I was younger. The Chair Force doesn't appeal anyway.

Only steyrs I've seen up close were the ones NORFORCE were fucking about with at the local yearly... Err... Idk festival I guess. Idk what to call it. Up in Gove they have a NORFORCE barracks, rather small compound.

They had three on chains bolted to a desk and they were allowing people to work the bolts on them but that's about it. I was like 12 at the time.
Holster that keyboard son, I'm not a member of the Chair Force Cadets . Tho really, for clarity, it's the Australian Air Force Cadets (AAFC), not RAAF Cadets.

Done a bit of .22 shooting with them. They used to run F88 Austeyr causes, but those stopped for some reason.
henno13
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Zimmer wrote:

aerodynamic wrote:

they will learn by themselves playing Counter Strike / Americas Army / Battlefield 2 and ArmA.
That's not good either, because that technically "promotes gun play".
not really

if the person playing the game has SOME common sense, they should understand that guns are dangerous and lethal IRL
i know i do and ive never handled the real thing before

Last edited by henno13 (2008-12-23 05:53:37)

CameronPoe
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Show them an Arnie boxset at age 6 and they should get the message about what guns do.
loubot
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Only when my kid(s) been in the military

Harmor wrote:

With all the accidential gun shootings kids have now adays, when and how should you introduce guns?  How do you teach them they are not toys?



After watching the youtube video,  I notice she walked in front of the barrel after cocking the rifle @ the end of the video...not a good mindset

Last edited by loubot (2008-12-23 06:10:31)

henno13
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Also the same thing could be said over here in britian with knives

when i was in the US a few years back i bought a Swiss Army Knife
from this my parents enforced strict rules keeping the knife inside the house.
they still do, and all i use it for is opening the letters and presents.

I am sure that americans are aware of the problem with britians youth and knives.
since guns are illegal, they take the best weapon avaible to them in their own home, the kitchen knife.

the parents never even consider talking to their childern about knives and how dangerous they are and looks what happens

"5,500 serious knife crimes in the UK in just 3 months."
Flecco
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mcminty wrote:

Holster that keyboard son, I'm not a member of the Chair Force Cadets . Tho really, for clarity, it's the Australian Air Force Cadets (AAFC), not RAAF Cadets.

Done a bit of .22 shooting with them. They used to run F88 Austeyr causes, but those stopped for some reason.
AAFC or RAAFC it doesn't matter.

Still the Chair Force tbh. OLOLOLOLOLOLOL
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