CammRobb
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DrunkFace wrote:

Why are people bringing weight into the equations?

G is a measure of acceleration not a measure of force.
Yeah, but weight would have to come into it as well, 'cause the decelelation would depend on how much mass was being slowed down.


If a truck and a bike have the same stopping power, the truck will take longer to stop because it has more mass.
DrunkFace
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Yes, but if they both stop from the same speed in the same time they both experience the same G.
CammRobb
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DrunkFace wrote:

Yes, but if they both stop from the same speed in the same time they both experience the same G.

Sirschloppy wrote:

the truck will take longer to stop
Same time? No. I don't even do physics and never had. That seems a bit obvious that if they don't stop in teh same time then the g's experienced will be different.
DrunkFace
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Where are the brakes on your HD?
What is its stopping 'power'?
and more importantly....

Finray wrote:

how fast would a 3.5" HDD have to be going to experience and impact force of 350Gs?
The only important unknown, is the time it takes to stop. The weight is inconsequential.
CammRobb
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Obviously there's no brakes. But weight would be a factor.
JoshP
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Vub
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You'll need to know the diameter of the thing to figure that out, and obviously the moment of inertia further out is greater.
argo4
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are we talking about internal forces on the spinning drive or an external force on the whole "box" , as when you're throwing it for example?
cause then T=Iw where I is moment of inertia, w is angular acceleration and T is torque.
Brasso
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argo4 wrote:

are we talking about internal forces on the spinning drive or an external force on the whole "box" , as when you're throwing it for example?
cause then T=Iw where I is moment of inertia, w is angular acceleration and T is torque.
throwing
"people in ny have a general idea of how to drive. one of the pedals goes forward the other one prevents you from dying"
argo4
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haffeysucks wrote:

argo4 wrote:

are we talking about internal forces on the spinning drive or an external force on the whole "box" , as when you're throwing it for example?
cause then T=Iw where I is moment of inertia, w is angular acceleration and T is torque.
throwing
ok then, i mean why would you do that but whatever. then my previous answer stands
DrunkFace
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SirSchloppy wrote:

Obviously there's no brakes. But weight would be a factor.
OMG its like arguing about santa with 5 year olds.

WEIGHT HAS NO EFFECT ON ACCELERATION.

If I drop a 1 kg ball and a 10kg ball they experience the SAME G, the force of the 10kg ball will be more, but the acceleration is the same.

argo4 wrote:

haffeysucks wrote:

argo4 wrote:

are we talking about internal forces on the spinning drive or an external force on the whole "box" , as when you're throwing it for example?
cause then T=Iw where I is moment of inertia, w is angular acceleration and T is torque.
throwing
ok then, i mean why would you do that but whatever. then my previous answer stands
But you'd be wrong, Mass does not effect the acceleration only the force.
argo4
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DrunkFace wrote:

SirSchloppy wrote:

Obviously there's no brakes. But weight would be a factor.
OMG its like arguing about santa with 5 year olds.

WEIGHT HAS NO EFFECT ON ACCELERATION.

If I drop a 1 kg ball and a 10kg ball they experience the SAME G, the force of the 10kg ball will be more, but the acceleration is the same.

argo4 wrote:

haffeysucks wrote:


throwing
ok then, i mean why would you do that but whatever. then my previous answer stands
But you'd be wrong, Mass does not effect the acceleration only the force.
so it's 3430 m/s^2
DrunkFace
Germans did 911
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argo4 wrote:

DrunkFace wrote:

SirSchloppy wrote:

Obviously there's no brakes. But weight would be a factor.
OMG its like arguing about santa with 5 year olds.

WEIGHT HAS NO EFFECT ON ACCELERATION.

If I drop a 1 kg ball and a 10kg ball they experience the SAME G, the force of the 10kg ball will be more, but the acceleration is the same.

argo4 wrote:

ok then, i mean why would you do that but whatever. then my previous answer stands
But you'd be wrong, Mass does not effect the acceleration only the force.
Read up
http://images.bestwebbuys.com/muze/book … 735486.jpg
It's the plane on a treadmill all over again, so many people too stupid, stubborn and ignorant who have no idea what they are on about yet think they do.

Go through your book and find me the definition of acceleration which includes mass. Then tell me why you converted G to newtons without a weight and then converted the newtons back to acceleration with weight.

Even your own equation f=ma proves me right.

Force =  Mass * Acceleration

G= 9.8m/s2 it is an acceleration constant to the earth.

F = mg is the force of gravity on an object.

Last edited by DrunkFace (2008-12-23 21:41:25)

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