FloppY_
­
+1,010|6551|Denmark aka Automotive Hell

TheAussieReaper wrote:

FloppY_ wrote:

I know it is because I don't know the commands but honestly... Microsoft OS > Linux when it comes to userfreindlyness and compability..
Microsoft OS is built on the back of DOS....
So?

You can still do close to everything on Windows without ever having to touch dos

I love that microsoft takes their old builds and build ontop, creating a solid, well tested foundation...
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JoshP
Banned
+176|5954|Notts, UK
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I just torrented and installed Windows 7 (build 7000).

It fucking rocks!

It's loads faster than Vista and XP (microsoft optimized the code or something?, meh all i know is it's running faster than a clean vista or xp install). Driver installation is fast and easy, everything seems to work well, it looks sexy, and all my hardware (that i've tried so far) has worked perfectly

Windows 7 > XP > Vista kthxbai
Sydney
2λчиэλ
+783|7108|Reykjavík, Iceland.

FloppY_ wrote:

Sydney wrote:

FloppY_ wrote:


Ahahahahaha, oh wow



no srsly. dumbest comment ever
XP > Ubuntu > Vista > ??? > OS-X
Really? Ubuntu (and most other Linux distros) do everything that XP does better, and can do a lot more than that. The only thing missing is native directx support, but that's because directx is made by MICROSOFT.

Oh, and all Linux is free, beat that.
I really, REALLY hate the amount of terminal commands you have to go through to fix even the simplest of problems in Linux...

I know it is because I don't know the commands but honestly... Microsoft OS > Linux when it comes to userfreindlyness and compability..

Imho microsoft could have the client OS monopoly if it stood to me.. that way compability would be at 100%

Also I mainly use my PC for gaming so I will never be running Ubuntu in anything more than virtual machines..
The terminal commands is what makes me love Linux so much, you aren't dependant on any GUI, you can do everything you want with a simple terminal.

Also, you won't NEED to fix any problems in Linux, 99% of stuff works right out of the box, no need to install drivers, and if you need to install drivers, you can simply do that by going to a menu and installing restricted drivers, no need to go on the Internet and having to search for drivers.

I could never go back to have windows as my main OS after I have been using Linux, it's just a whole another league of OS.
JoshP
Banned
+176|5954|Notts, UK

Sydney wrote:

Also, you won't NEED to fix any problems in Linux, 99% of stuff works right out of the box, no need to install drivers, and if you need to install drivers, you can simply do that by going to a menu and installing restricted drivers, no need to go on the Internet and having to search for drivers.
have fun installing drivers for a netgear wpn111 wireless adapter on linux

Spoiler (highlight to read):
you can't

Spoiler (highlight to read):
well if you work out how, do tell me
Brasso
member
+1,549|6895

Sydney wrote:

Also, you won't NEED to fix any problems in Linux, 99% of stuff works right out of the box, no need to install drivers, and if you need to install drivers, you can simply do that by going to a menu and installing restricted drivers, no need to go on the Internet and having to search for drivers.
That's exactly what I had to do for my fucking D-Link wireless laptop card.  And I had to do all this "sudo" shit or whatever.  Browse a list, yeah, yeah, it's supposed to be easy, but none of those things that are supposed to work actually work!  So I go online, search and find my own solution.  And I have to use the stupid fucking terminal to type in commands that are WAY TOO FUCKING LONG.

Finally I get it working.

That pretty much sums up my Ubuntu experience since I nearly threw the laptop out the window after all that.

edit: There you go!  Two people who have had problems with wireless adapters.

Last edited by haffeysucks (2008-12-28 08:42:44)

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Sydney
2λчиэλ
+783|7108|Reykjavík, Iceland.

haffeysucks wrote:

Sydney wrote:

Also, you won't NEED to fix any problems in Linux, 99% of stuff works right out of the box, no need to install drivers, and if you need to install drivers, you can simply do that by going to a menu and installing restricted drivers, no need to go on the Internet and having to search for drivers.
That's exactly what I had to do for my fucking D-Link wireless laptop card.  And I had to do all this "sudo" shit or whatever.  Browse a list, yeah, yeah, it's supposed to be easy, but none of those things that are supposed to work actually work!  So I go online, search and find my own solution.  And I have to use the stupid fucking terminal to type in commands that are WAY TOO FUCKING LONG.

Finally I get it working.

That pretty much sums up my Ubuntu experience since I nearly threw the laptop out the window after all that.

edit: There you go!  Two people who have had problems with wireless adapters.
Shouldn't be hard tbh.

If it happens that you need go online to find a driver here's how you do it.

Option 1:
1. Find a binary driver for it
2. Download to ~/sources/wirelessdriver/
3. Open Terminal and type: "cd ~/sources/wirelessdriver/"
4. Type "sh drivername.run"
5. Go through install procedure
6. DONE!

Option 2: (Only source drivers exist)
1. Find a source driver for it
2. Download to ~/sources/wirelessdriver/
3. Open a terminal and type: "cd ~/sources/wirelessdriver/"
4. Type "./configure" followed by "make" followed by "sudo make install"
5. DONE.

Simple enough tbh.
JoshP
Banned
+176|5954|Notts, UK

Sydney wrote:

haffeysucks wrote:

Sydney wrote:

Also, you won't NEED to fix any problems in Linux, 99% of stuff works right out of the box, no need to install drivers, and if you need to install drivers, you can simply do that by going to a menu and installing restricted drivers, no need to go on the Internet and having to search for drivers.
That's exactly what I had to do for my fucking D-Link wireless laptop card.  And I had to do all this "sudo" shit or whatever.  Browse a list, yeah, yeah, it's supposed to be easy, but none of those things that are supposed to work actually work!  So I go online, search and find my own solution.  And I have to use the stupid fucking terminal to type in commands that are WAY TOO FUCKING LONG.

Finally I get it working.

That pretty much sums up my Ubuntu experience since I nearly threw the laptop out the window after all that.

edit: There you go!  Two people who have had problems with wireless adapters.
Shouldn't be hard tbh.

If it happens that you need go online to find a driver here's how you do it.

Option 1:
1. Find a binary driver for it
2. Download to ~/sources/wirelessdriver/
3. Open Terminal and type: "cd ~/sources/wirelessdriver/"
4. Type "sh drivername.run"
5. Go through install procedure
6. DONE!

Option 2: (Only source drivers exist)
1. Find a source driver for it
2. Download to ~/sources/wirelessdriver/
3. Open a terminal and type: "cd ~/sources/wirelessdriver/"
4. Type "./configure" followed by "make" followed by "sudo make install"
5. DONE.

Simple enough tbh.
blargh

imma try this just to see if i can prove you wrong

Sydney
2λчиэλ
+783|7108|Reykjavík, Iceland.
Your results may wary if you happen to be missing libraries.

If you are installing source driver make sure you have done this in terminal first:

"sudo apt-get install build-essential"
Benzin
Member
+576|6264
See, that's the problem with Linux: it does come down to what distro you are using. I like that it is so customizable, but I personally prefer the customization of Firefox. I can customize it in any way and I never have to look at the code. I do like the little logic problems that come with making programs and whatnot, but I could never see that as something to do regularly. For the people that do it and do it well, though, I salute you and pledge my willingness to inflate your blow-up doll for you so that you can keep coding.

I'd like to see a good monitor come out that can give HD-capability and also be touchscreen. Where is that monitor? I have yet to find one.
SonderKommando
Eat, Lift, Grow, Repeat....
+564|6925|The darkside of Denver

max wrote:

did you guys get the message? Vista bashing and XP loving is out. The new enemy is apple once again
FloppY_
­
+1,010|6551|Denmark aka Automotive Hell

Sydney wrote:

FloppY_ wrote:

Sydney wrote:


Really? Ubuntu (and most other Linux distros) do everything that XP does better, and can do a lot more than that. The only thing missing is native directx support, but that's because directx is made by MICROSOFT.

Oh, and all Linux is free, beat that.
I really, REALLY hate the amount of terminal commands you have to go through to fix even the simplest of problems in Linux...

I know it is because I don't know the commands but honestly... Microsoft OS > Linux when it comes to userfreindlyness and compability..

Imho microsoft could have the client OS monopoly if it stood to me.. that way compability would be at 100%

Also I mainly use my PC for gaming so I will never be running Ubuntu in anything more than virtual machines..
The terminal commands is what makes me love Linux so much, you aren't dependant on any GUI, you can do everything you want with a simple terminal.

Also, you won't NEED to fix any problems in Linux, 99% of stuff works right out of the box, no need to install drivers, and if you need to install drivers, you can simply do that by going to a menu and installing restricted drivers, no need to go on the Internet and having to search for drivers.

I could never go back to have windows as my main OS after I have been using Linux, it's just a whole another league of OS.
Comes down to your point of view... imo that other league lies below microsofts
­ Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me
Sup3r_Dr4gon
Boat sig is not there anymore
+214|6592|Australia
Does anyone know if the problem with Vista being shitty with Creative soundcards (or is the cards being shitty with Vista?) has been fixed yet?
GC_PaNzerFIN
Work and study @ Technical Uni
+528|6679|Finland

I have had no problems ever since I installed Daniel K's hacked custom X-FI drivers... that was over a year ago...
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max
Vela Incident
+1,652|6832|NYC / Hamburg

I can't help but notice that all the tech team members are happy with Vista ...
once upon a midnight dreary, while i pron surfed, weak and weary, over many a strange and spurious site of ' hot  xxx galore'. While i clicked my fav'rite bookmark, suddenly there came a warning, and my heart was filled with mourning, mourning for my dear amour, " 'Tis not possible!", i muttered, " give me back my free hardcore!"..... quoth the server, 404.
jaymz9350
Member
+54|6842

max wrote:

I can't help but notice that all the tech team members are happy with Vista ...
Maybe it has to do the fact if you know your facts instead of just listening to rants of the uneducated you realize it is a good OS.
_Dominiko_PL
TITS or gtfo.
+97|6786|Polish state of EU
Windows 7 >>>> Vista >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> XP >>>>>>>>>>(...)>>>>>>> anything tbh
twoblacklines
all grown up now (its boring)
+49|6472
VMware ftw
mikkel
Member
+383|6866

TheAussieReaper wrote:

FloppY_ wrote:

I know it is because I don't know the commands but honestly... Microsoft OS > Linux when it comes to userfreindlyness and compability..
Microsoft OS is built on the back of DOS....
Which millenium are you from?
ghettoperson
Member
+1,943|6914

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

I have had no problems ever since I installed Daniel K's hacked custom X-FI drivers... that was over a year ago...
I never had a problem with that at all, and that's with Creatives drivers. Of course, I switched after SP1 so they may have fixed it then, but I had no issues when I was running Server08 though. Maybe it's because I have a fake XFi, I dunno.
kylef
Gone
+1,352|6758|N. Ireland
Audigy 2 ZS running fine on Vista here
.Sup
be nice
+2,646|6718|The Twilight Zone

kylef wrote:

Audigy 2 ZS running fine on Vista here
just occasional noise but other than that it works perfectly!!
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killer21
Because f*ck you that's why.
+400|6856|Reisterstown, MD

.Sup wrote:

just occasional noise but other than that it works perfectly!!
GSM interference?
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|6940|Canberra, AUS
Vista64 works like a dream for me... except for the fact that after coming out of sleep it BSOD's.

The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
max
Vela Incident
+1,652|6832|NYC / Hamburg

Spark wrote:

Vista64 works like a dream for me... except for the fact that after coming out of sleep it BSOD's.

I'm betting $5 that it was the GPU driver misbehaving
once upon a midnight dreary, while i pron surfed, weak and weary, over many a strange and spurious site of ' hot  xxx galore'. While i clicked my fav'rite bookmark, suddenly there came a warning, and my heart was filled with mourning, mourning for my dear amour, " 'Tis not possible!", i muttered, " give me back my free hardcore!"..... quoth the server, 404.
.Sup
be nice
+2,646|6718|The Twilight Zone

killer21 wrote:

.Sup wrote:

just occasional noise but other than that it works perfectly!!
GSM interference?
No, I was being a bit sarcastic but I remember when I had Audigy 2 ZS installed on Vista there were so much noise compared to XP.
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