Need help from our German members

2008-12-28 04:42:18

#1

Benzin: Member; +576|6264

What I need from you guys are websites similar to NewEgg.com that can get me the parts I need at affordable prices with decent customer service for RMAs. I doubt any of them will be able to match NewEgg's customer service, but if they can ...

Only requirement is that they take bank transfers from Austrian banks and can deliver to Austria. If they REQUIRE a Visa card, then that should still be OK (getting one from my bank in a few months). I want to start looking into what it would cost to build a computer here versus buying some of the parts during the summer during my trip home to the US. The build should take place in the fall when it's nice and cold and I can build it in the comfort of my non-air-conditioned apartment in Vienna.

Also, selection is a must.

So what can you guys do for me?

2008-12-28 04:45:02

#2

.Sup: be nice; +2,646|6718|The Twilight Zone

Search for prices here: http://geizhals.at/eu/
I ordered from http://www.hpm-computer.de/
and http://www.mindfactory.de/
And they both have delivered the stuff quickly
HPM computer even has his site in English as well

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2008-12-28 04:51:40

#3

max: Vela Incident; +1,652|6832|NYC / Hamburg

alternate.eu will work nicely. I like that shop

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2008-12-28 05:09:48

#4

Benzin: Member; +576|6264

Thanks guys!

2008-12-28 05:10:45

#5

.Sup: be nice; +2,646|6718|The Twilight Zone

You're welcome! Even though I'm not German, I still took the liberty to post here.

2008-12-28 05:15:55

#6

FloppY_: +1,010|6551|Denmark aka Automotive Hell

I doubt you will get it any cheaper than in the US since most of the components are made there
(depending on your brands ofc.)

And the US is fail when it comes to inviromental protection so taxes should be at a minimum

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2008-12-28 05:20:10

#7

Benzin: Member; +576|6264

Well my only issue is that since the build won't take place in the winter (it may be that long until I can actually afford it, rather than blowing all my cash on it) and my trip is in the summer. Unless there is a really nice sale on components, then I will prolly wait. Plus, it will make warranty support and RMAs ten times simpler.

2008-12-28 05:20:44

#8

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6679|Finland

FloppY_ wrote:
I doubt you will get it any cheaper than in the US since most of the components are made there
(depending on your brands ofc.)

And the US is fail when it comes to inviromental protection so taxes should be at a minimum

most of the components are made in China or Taiwan, no?

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2008-12-28 05:23:49

#9

FloppY_: +1,010|6551|Denmark aka Automotive Hell

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
FloppY_ wrote:
I doubt you will get it any cheaper than in the US since most of the components are made there
(depending on your brands ofc.)

And the US is fail when it comes to inviromental protection so taxes should be at a minimum
most of the components are made in China or Taiwan, no?

Yeah but I was thinking about silicon valley and the high-end brands like ASUS, Kingston & Corsair

Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me

2008-12-28 05:25:36

#10

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6679|Finland

FloppY_ wrote:
GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
FloppY_ wrote:
I doubt you will get it any cheaper than in the US since most of the components are made there
(depending on your brands ofc.)

And the US is fail when it comes to inviromental protection so taxes should be at a minimum
most of the components are made in China or Taiwan, no?
Yeah but I was thinking about silicon valley and the high-end brands like ASUS, Kingston & Corsair

My Asus is MADE IN CHINA.

edit: 3/4 of Kingston's factories are either in China or Taiwan.

Last edited by GC_PaNzerFIN (2008-12-28 05:31:26)

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2008-12-28 05:28:55

#11

FloppY_: +1,010|6551|Denmark aka Automotive Hell

CapnNismo wrote:
Well my only issue is that since the build won't take place in the winter (it may be that long until I can actually afford it, rather than blowing all my cash on it) and my trip is in the summer. Unless there is a really nice sale on components, then I will prolly wait. Plus, it will make warranty support and RMAs ten times simpler.

Yeah I follow you..

You should also consider the RMA laws and stuff,, e.g. here in Denmark it is applied by law that us consumers can return anything bought on the internet (except for customized goods such as assembled computers) within 14days of us recieving them as long as they are in their original condition...

A minimum of 1 years full warranty (not very important in this case since most hardware comes with a 2-10 year warranty and Kingston with a lifetime), and we have 2 years of limited warranty (I don't know the exact english word but we can return any product that has flaws within two years if the flaw was in the product to begin with...

EU laws should be far better for the consumer than the US ones...

You should also consider the risk of beeing cought with hardware worth alot of money when you return home at the airport since they will force you to pay taxes if your imports have a value over x amount of money...

Last edited by FloppY_ (2008-12-28 05:29:56)

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2008-12-28 07:24:39

#12

CrazeD: Member; +368|6938|Maine

FloppY_ wrote:
GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
FloppY_ wrote:
I doubt you will get it any cheaper than in the US since most of the components are made there
(depending on your brands ofc.)

And the US is fail when it comes to inviromental protection so taxes should be at a minimum
most of the components are made in China or Taiwan, no?
Yeah but I was thinking about silicon valley and the high-end brands like ASUS, Kingston & Corsair

Since when is Kingston considered high-end?

Ick.

2008-12-28 07:38:10

#13

FloppY_: +1,010|6551|Denmark aka Automotive Hell

CrazeD wrote:
FloppY_ wrote:
GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

most of the components are made in China or Taiwan, no?
Yeah but I was thinking about silicon valley and the high-end brands like ASUS, Kingston & Corsair
Since when is Kingston considered high-end?

Ick.

Since they are?

Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me

2008-12-28 09:29:19

#14

Benzin: Member; +576|6264

FloppY_ wrote:
Yeah I follow you..

You should also consider the RMA laws and stuff,, e.g. here in Denmark it is applied by law that us consumers can return anything bought on the internet (except for customized goods such as assembled computers) within 14days of us recieving them as long as they are in their original condition...

A minimum of 1 years full warranty (not very important in this case since most hardware comes with a 2-10 year warranty and Kingston with a lifetime), and we have 2 years of limited warranty (I don't know the exact english word but we can return any product that has flaws within two years if the flaw was in the product to begin with...

EU laws should be far better for the consumer than the US ones...

You should also consider the risk of beeing cought with hardware worth alot of money when you return home at the airport since they will force you to pay taxes if your imports have a value over x amount of money...

Well the US is more of a buyer's market. The customer service culture in the US is that most companies will do whatever it takes not to ruin their reputation. Word of mouth can make or break a company very easily. Especially with the Internet and the easiness that some people can get word out. Just look at all of those overnight YouTube sensations.

But you're right, most companies over at least 2 years warranty regardless. And what with technology the way it is, it's typically cheaper to just replace it with whatever is on the market at the time then go through the hassle of replacement and RMA and your computer be potentially down.

I am flying into Vienna airport, though, and I am a US citizen. So technically I am not importing anything. I am bringing personal belongings over. If it came through the mail, though, that's different. I don't even have to worry about that, though, because customs at VIE is an absolute joke. There really isn't anything that you have to do, no forms to fill out, nothing. I rather like it because traveling to and from VIE is such a pain-free experience.

2008-12-28 09:43:32

#15

FloppY_: +1,010|6551|Denmark aka Automotive Hell

CapnNismo wrote:
FloppY_ wrote:
Yeah I follow you..

You should also consider the RMA laws and stuff,, e.g. here in Denmark it is applied by law that us consumers can return anything bought on the internet (except for customized goods such as assembled computers) within 14days of us recieving them as long as they are in their original condition...

A minimum of 1 years full warranty (not very important in this case since most hardware comes with a 2-10 year warranty and Kingston with a lifetime), and we have 2 years of limited warranty (I don't know the exact english word but we can return any product that has flaws within two years if the flaw was in the product to begin with...

EU laws should be far better for the consumer than the US ones...

You should also consider the risk of beeing cought with hardware worth alot of money when you return home at the airport since they will force you to pay taxes if your imports have a value over x amount of money...
Well the US is more of a buyer's market. The customer service culture in the US is that most companies will do whatever it takes not to ruin their reputation. Word of mouth can make or break a company very easily. Especially with the Internet and the easiness that some people can get word out. Just look at all of those overnight YouTube sensations.

But you're right, most companies over at least 2 years warranty regardless. And what with technology the way it is, it's typically cheaper to just replace it with whatever is on the market at the time then go through the hassle of replacement and RMA and your computer be potentially down.

I am flying into Vienna airport, though, and I am a US citizen. So technically I am not importing anything. I am bringing personal belongings over. If it came through the mail, though, that's different. I don't even have to worry about that, though, because customs at VIE is an absolute joke. There really isn't anything that you have to do, no forms to fill out, nothing. I rather like it because traveling to and from VIE is such a pain-free experience.

Considering you are a US citizen I figure you get mail/visit from/to the US once in a while.. So I'd say buy it in the US since their prices are far lower

EDIT: Though you might consider buying your PSU in Europe to make sure it is compatible

Last edited by FloppY_ (2008-12-28 09:44:04)

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2008-12-28 10:41:51

#16

kylef: Gone; +1,352|6758|N. Ireland

I'm sure France can defend itself now

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2008-12-28 10:54:20

#17

FloppY_: +1,010|6551|Denmark aka Automotive Hell

kylef wrote:
I'm sure France can defend itself now

Off topic much?

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2008-12-28 11:52:31

#18

CrazeD: Member; +368|6938|Maine

FloppY_ wrote:
CrazeD wrote:
FloppY_ wrote:

Yeah but I was thinking about silicon valley and the high-end brands like ASUS, Kingston & Corsair
Since when is Kingston considered high-end?

Ick.
Since they are?

Kingston sucks compared to other brands like Corsair, G.Skill, Crucial, etc.

2008-12-28 12:12:36

#19

.Sup: be nice; +2,646|6718|The Twilight Zone

CrazeD wrote:
FloppY_ wrote:
CrazeD wrote:
Since when is Kingston considered high-end?

Ick.
Since they are?
Kingston sucks compared to other brands like Corsair, G.Skill, Crucial, etc.

2008-12-28 12:39:25

#20

FloppY_: +1,010|6551|Denmark aka Automotive Hell

.Sup wrote:
CrazeD wrote:
FloppY_ wrote:

Since they are?
Kingston sucks compared to other brands like Corsair, G.Skill, Crucial, etc.

wat,, I don't see corsair giving a lifetime warranty?

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2008-12-28 13:06:39

#21

zeidmaan: Member; +234|6680|Vienna

I use www.geizhals.at

The site will check prices of hundreds of shops in Vienna and provide link to shops websites. I managed to save a lot of money using it, sometimes more than 20% compared to Saturn or Cosmos prices.

2 good shops that I used few times:

http://www.peluga.at/
http://www.ditech.at/

I never had to return anything to Peluga. I had to return a HD once to ditech about half a year after buying it. They asked me if I wanted a new one right away or if I wanted them to try to repair the broken one to save my data. I took a new one on the spot. The workers were very polite and the whole ordeal took less than 5 minutes.

2008-12-28 13:55:40

#22

DUnlimited: got any popo lolo intersting?; +1,160|6728|cuntshitlake

FloppY_ wrote:
CrazeD wrote:
FloppY_ wrote:

Yeah but I was thinking about silicon valley and the high-end brands like ASUS, Kingston & Corsair
Since when is Kingston considered high-end?

Ick.
Since they are?

Totally not.

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2008-12-28 14:09:31

#23

FloppY_: +1,010|6551|Denmark aka Automotive Hell

DeathUnlimited wrote:
FloppY_ wrote:
CrazeD wrote:
Since when is Kingston considered high-end?

Ick.
Since they are?
Totally not.

Totally why not?

If you can't give me any proof or comparisons I can't see us getting any further...

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2008-12-29 00:12:50

#24

Benzin: Member; +576|6264

Thanks Zeidmann. I've checked out Ditech's laptop prices and they were far from fair ...

2008-12-29 00:20:41

#25

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6679|Finland

after Kingston's HyperX DDR2 kits got its ass raeped even by low-end A-DATA kits, I have not even considered Kingston as highend....

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