CrazeD
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Freezer7Pro wrote:

Mutantsteak wrote:

Gooners wrote:


.5 multiplier and the minimal clock advantage isn't worth the extra money.
Spoiler (highlight to read):
then why are you getting one freeze
Because the mobo I'm planning on getting (only 780i in the country, yay) seems to have a FSB wall of around 420MHz. That's not a lot, so even .5 more multiplier is worth it. Besides, the E8500 is 14€ more than the E8400.
So get a better mobo?

Get a P45 or something.

Can still use two nVidia cards for folding, and you can OC a helluva lot better.
menzo
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CrazeD wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

Mutantsteak wrote:


Spoiler (highlight to read):
then why are you getting one freeze
Because the mobo I'm planning on getting (only 780i in the country, yay) seems to have a FSB wall of around 420MHz. That's not a lot, so even .5 more multiplier is worth it. Besides, the E8500 is 14€ more than the E8400.
So get a better mobo?

Get a P45 or something.

Can still use two nVidia cards for folding, and you can OC a helluva lot better.
yeah my  gigabyte -p35-ds3  can do 480 fsb  and that is not even an OC board
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menzo2003 wrote:

CrazeD wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:


Because the mobo I'm planning on getting (only 780i in the country, yay) seems to have a FSB wall of around 420MHz. That's not a lot, so even .5 more multiplier is worth it. Besides, the E8500 is 14€ more than the E8400.
So get a better mobo?

Get a P45 or something.

Can still use two nVidia cards for folding, and you can OC a helluva lot better.
yeah my  gigabyte -p35-ds3  can do 480 fsb  and that is not even an OC board
It is compared to my 650i P5N-E SLI that can do 480 FSB too
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CrazeD wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

Mutantsteak wrote:


Spoiler (highlight to read):
then why are you getting one freeze
Because the mobo I'm planning on getting (only 780i in the country, yay) seems to have a FSB wall of around 420MHz. That's not a lot, so even .5 more multiplier is worth it. Besides, the E8500 is 14€ more than the E8400.
So get a better mobo?

Get a P45 or something.

Can still use two nVidia cards for folding, and you can OC a helluva lot better.
I'm aiming at using three cards, and, unfortunately, also SLI. One 8800GT can't really live up to my monitor.

Although, I'm considering going ATI now, as max says there are some new 5kPPD WUs for ATI.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
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The new GTX 260's are nice though (55nm core 216's)   Can overclock 'em nicely!
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ReDevilJR wrote:

The new GTX 260's are nice though (55nm core 216's)   Can overclock 'em nicely!
Too expensive though, compared to a 4870 OC
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ReDevilJR
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Oh wow, didn't realize they were so cheap, nice pick.
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ReDevilJR wrote:

Oh wow, didn't realize they were so cheap, nice pick.
Was that @ my 4870 OC ?
­ Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me
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FloppY_ wrote:

ReDevilJR wrote:

Oh wow, didn't realize they were so cheap, nice pick.
Was that @ my 4870 OC ?
Yes.
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ReDevilJR wrote:

FloppY_ wrote:

ReDevilJR wrote:

Oh wow, didn't realize they were so cheap, nice pick.
Was that @ my 4870 OC ?
Yes.
^^ Yeah they are pretty darn cheap... I used to be leaning towards Nvidia, but I can't ignore the superior price/performance ratios of the 48xx series vs the GTX2xx series...
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Freezer7Pro wrote:

sucking on the breast of the rich man.
now thats a sexy image.
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CrazeD
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Freezer7Pro wrote:

CrazeD wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:


Because the mobo I'm planning on getting (only 780i in the country, yay) seems to have a FSB wall of around 420MHz. That's not a lot, so even .5 more multiplier is worth it. Besides, the E8500 is 14€ more than the E8400.
So get a better mobo?

Get a P45 or something.

Can still use two nVidia cards for folding, and you can OC a helluva lot better.
One 8800GT can't really live up to my monitor.
Then get a 4870 1GB. The extra VRAM and GDDR5 works well on high res.
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CrazeD wrote:

Then get a 4870 1GB. The extra VRAM and GDDR5 works well on high res.
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Freezer7Pro wrote:

Anyone else than the folding whores have anything to say?
No.
']['error.V2
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not a folding whore: wait untill i7 is affordable (unless you have enough cash lying around to buy it now).
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']['error.V2 wrote:

not a folding whore: wait untill i7 is affordable (unless you have enough cash lying around to buy it now).
unless he is not going to need it... sounds like he is going the golden mid-range way.
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CrazeD
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GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

']['error.V2 wrote:

not a folding whore: wait untill i7 is affordable (unless you have enough cash lying around to buy it now).
unless he is not going to need it... sounds like he is going the golden mid-range way.
And as such, should wait for AMD Phenom II to come out (early January) and grab an AMD 790FX board. Superb overclocking, and they can handle CrossfireX.

Early benchmarks show the Phenom II 940 to be very close to the Core I7's, and rumors hint at around $250 in price. Plus they OC a fuck load higher than the Core I7's do (over 6GHz on LN2) so that's always good.

Doit.
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CrazeD wrote:

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

']['error.V2 wrote:

not a folding whore: wait untill i7 is affordable (unless you have enough cash lying around to buy it now).
unless he is not going to need it... sounds like he is going the golden mid-range way.
And as such, should wait for AMD Phenom II to come out (early January) and grab an AMD 790FX board. Superb overclocking, and they can handle CrossfireX.

Early benchmarks show the Phenom II 940 to be very close to the Core I7's, and rumors hint at around $250 in price. Plus they OC a fuck load higher than the Core I7's do (over 6GHz on LN2) so that's always good.

Doit.
emmm... last time as I hear it went 4ghz with air... same as core i7. and in clock to clock scenario the Phenom II gets its ass raped hard..
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CrazeD
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GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

CrazeD wrote:

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:


unless he is not going to need it... sounds like he is going the golden mid-range way.
And as such, should wait for AMD Phenom II to come out (early January) and grab an AMD 790FX board. Superb overclocking, and they can handle CrossfireX.

Early benchmarks show the Phenom II 940 to be very close to the Core I7's, and rumors hint at around $250 in price. Plus they OC a fuck load higher than the Core I7's do (over 6GHz on LN2) so that's always good.

Doit.
emmm... last time as I hear it went 4ghz with air... same as core i7. and in clock to clock scenario the Phenom II gets its ass raped hard..
Yes it's around 4GHz on air, but they've hit over 6GHz on LN2.

http://www.pcper.com/comments.php?nid=6455

And clock for clock is not "ass raped hard". The Core I7 got about 2000 points more on 3DMark06. Better yes, but I said that it is very close to the Core I7's. When you add the fact that Core I7 is like a grand, and Phenom II fits into existing motherboards, there's a huge difference.
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CrazeD wrote:

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

CrazeD wrote:

And as such, should wait for AMD Phenom II to come out (early January) and grab an AMD 790FX board. Superb overclocking, and they can handle CrossfireX.

Early benchmarks show the Phenom II 940 to be very close to the Core I7's, and rumors hint at around $250 in price. Plus they OC a fuck load higher than the Core I7's do (over 6GHz on LN2) so that's always good.

Doit.
emmm... last time as I hear it went 4ghz with air... same as core i7. and in clock to clock scenario the Phenom II gets its ass raped hard..
Yes it's around 4GHz on air, but they've hit over 6GHz on LN2.

http://www.pcper.com/comments.php?nid=6455

And clock for clock is not "ass raped hard". The Core I7 got about 2000 points more on 3DMark06. Better yes, but I said that it is very close to the Core I7's. When you add the fact that Core I7 is like a grand, and Phenom II fits into existing motherboards, there's a huge difference.
synthetic benchmarks = fail

the i7 920 is $295...a grand?  yeah, maybe for the extreme version, which only suckers and rich bastards get.

Last edited by haffeysucks (2008-12-30 11:09:18)

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CrazeD
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haffeysucks wrote:

CrazeD wrote:

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:


emmm... last time as I hear it went 4ghz with air... same as core i7. and in clock to clock scenario the Phenom II gets its ass raped hard..
Yes it's around 4GHz on air, but they've hit over 6GHz on LN2.

http://www.pcper.com/comments.php?nid=6455

And clock for clock is not "ass raped hard". The Core I7 got about 2000 points more on 3DMark06. Better yes, but I said that it is very close to the Core I7's. When you add the fact that Core I7 is like a grand, and Phenom II fits into existing motherboards, there's a huge difference.
synthetic benchmarks = fail

the i7 920 is $295...a grand?  yeah, maybe for the extreme version, which only suckers and rich bastards get.
I was factoring in the $300 CPU, $200-300 motherboard, and then $200 RAM. Not quite a grand, I was exaggerating. However, it is a lot more expensive than a $250 chip that works with existing motherboards, and existing RAM.

They are not synthetic benchmarks. A very select few people got their hands on the chips early. I think maybe it was k|ngp|n and the others, but not 100% on that.

Either way, Phenom II is a great alternative to Core I7 if you don't have that much cash, because it performs better than all the 775 stuff, doesn't cost much, is versatile, and OC's like a mother fucker.
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CrazeD wrote:

I was factoring in the $300 CPU, $200-300 motherboard, and then $200 RAM. Not quite a grand, I was exaggerating. However, it is a lot more expensive than a $250 chip that works with existing motherboards, and existing RAM.

They are not synthetic benchmarks. A very select few people got their hands on the chips early. I think maybe it was k|ngp|n and the others, but not 100% on that.

Either way, Phenom II is a great alternative to Core I7 if you don't have that much cash, because it performs better than all the 775 stuff, doesn't cost much, is versatile, and OC's like a mother fucker.
Existing motherboards?  Explain please.  I don't know a single person that has an AM2 board anymore.  They've either gone S775 or they have something older like a Socket 939.

3DMark06 is a synthetic benchmark...

I don't know how well the Phenom II stacks up against the C2Qs but I would probably (personally) go with the C2Q.
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i7 OC's pretty much the same as Phenom II on LN2... not that it would mean anything to normal users tbh...

Last edited by GC_PaNzerFIN (2008-12-30 11:28:31)

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Brasso
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GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

i7 OC's pretty much the same as Phenom II on LN2... not that it would mean anything to normal users tbh...
exactly, meaning the i7's better performance-per-clock would benefit everyday users more.
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GC_PaNzerFIN
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I don't understand this talk that Phenom II makes u save over 200€ on motherboard. You still need to get a AM2+ mobo. And good AM2+ mobos cost over 150€ just like good S775 or S1366 motherboard. DDR3 is the future like it or not and the prices have been coming down quite a lot lately. That's why Phenom II supports DDR3 as well.

edit: close? http://translate.google.com/translate?h … 3Ft%3D3189 I say not...

Last edited by GC_PaNzerFIN (2008-12-30 11:54:28)

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