Scorpion0x17
can detect anyone's visible post count...
+691|7031|Cambridge (UK)
@Finray, again:

Sandra shouldn't be used instead of stress test, but rather it should be used after a stress test, to check thermal stability.

So, after you've used [insert name of preferred stress test software] to make sure it's stable:

First, make sure Sandra will monitor your temps ok.

Second, select the above mentioned burn-in test, set it to run continuously, and tell it to monitor temps and stop if it gets too hot (you can set the cut off point, I'd set it to 5degrees above whatever the highest you've seen the CPU temp at whilst stress testing), select the CPU tests (or, rather, deselect all the non-cpu tests).

Third, run test.

Fourth, leave to 'burn-in'.

Fifth, check every now and then, say 10-15mins to start, then 30mins a couple of times, then leave it hour between checks, give it 24hrs total and if it's still running, your CPU temps stayed OK.

Freezer7Pro wrote:

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

@Finray:

3 (4, if you count the hyphenation) words: 1. Sandra, 2. Burn-in, 3. Test.
Lol

Linpack > That. Any day.
@Freezer: The thing I like about Sandra is the burn-in test doesn't just do one thing over and over again (which essentially only tests one 'code-path' through the CPU), rather it does lots of different things a few times each, repeatedly, over and over again (which means it tests more of the CPU, overall).

Don't know Linpack.

Linpack?
Linpack?
Linpack?
Linpack?
Linpack?
Linpack?

Which 'Linpack'?

Assuming you're referring to something to do with the first 3 linkys, see what I just said - this Linpack appears to be a floating-point math library that's been wrapped up within a floating-point performance benchmark.

Sure, it's gonna stress your CPU's FPU. But that's all. All you end up knowing is that you can fah fast.

Last edited by Scorpion0x17 (2008-12-31 10:48:59)

Aries_37
arrivederci frog
+368|6840|London
I use sandra after I first put a machine together because it better tells me whether my components have any weaknesses. But I find my cpu runs hotter with other stressers (orthos/prime95) and so for stability and overclocking I stick to those.

Everest has a similar 'check system stability and burn-in' thing but it sucks.
Zimmer
Un Moderador
+1,688|7021|Scotland

DeathUnlimited wrote:

Zimmer wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:


It can't be healthy to live in under 15C...
Haha. I dont know why but my CPU stays between 15 and 18C.
Bios update time, reading sensors wrong. What CPU did you have?
Um. Bios at latest update. Sensors all said the same. From CPUZ to Everest. It's not wrong.
Sydney
2λчиэλ
+783|7108|Reykjavík, Iceland.

Zimmer wrote:

DeathUnlimited wrote:

Zimmer wrote:


Haha. I dont know why but my CPU stays between 15 and 18C.
Bios update time, reading sensors wrong. What CPU did you have?
Um. Bios at latest update. Sensors all said the same. From CPUZ to Everest. It's not wrong.
If the sensor is wrong all apps will show wrong temps. Also, air cooling below ambient is undoable.
Aries_37
arrivederci frog
+368|6840|London

Zimmer wrote:

DeathUnlimited wrote:

Zimmer wrote:


Haha. I dont know why but my CPU stays between 15 and 18C.
Bios update time, reading sensors wrong. What CPU did you have?
Um. Bios at latest update. Sensors all said the same. From CPUZ to Everest. It's not wrong.
They mean the sensors in the chip. I reckon 15C is possible though, you do live in the fridge that is scotland and it is winter...
Zimmer
Un Moderador
+1,688|7021|Scotland

Sydney wrote:

Zimmer wrote:

DeathUnlimited wrote:


Bios update time, reading sensors wrong. What CPU did you have?
Um. Bios at latest update. Sensors all said the same. From CPUZ to Everest. It's not wrong.
If the sensor is wrong all apps will show wrong temps. Also, air cooling below ambient is undoable.
Ambient underneath the table is 15C.
Sydney
2λчиэλ
+783|7108|Reykjavík, Iceland.

Zimmer wrote:

Sydney wrote:

Zimmer wrote:


Um. Bios at latest update. Sensors all said the same. From CPUZ to Everest. It's not wrong.
If the sensor is wrong all apps will show wrong temps. Also, air cooling below ambient is undoable.
Ambient underneath the table is 15C.
Hax tbh.
Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|6972|67.222.138.85

Zimmer wrote:

Sydney wrote:

Zimmer wrote:


Um. Bios at latest update. Sensors all said the same. From CPUZ to Everest. It's not wrong.
If the sensor is wrong all apps will show wrong temps. Also, air cooling below ambient is undoable.
Ambient underneath the table is 15C.
My god man do you use your computer in a walk in meat freezer?

You can't trust max and freezer unless you make sure they know you won't be folding with it. Then they'll give you good advice for a nice, reasonable overclock.
Sydney
2λчиэλ
+783|7108|Reykjavík, Iceland.

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Zimmer wrote:

Sydney wrote:


If the sensor is wrong all apps will show wrong temps. Also, air cooling below ambient is undoable.
Ambient underneath the table is 15C.
My god man do you use your computer in a walk in meat freezer?

You can't trust max and freezer unless you make sure they know you won't be folding with it. Then they'll give you good advice for a nice, reasonable overclock.
We will fry his CPU on purpose if he isn't willing to fold.
Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6462|Winland

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

@Finray, again:

Sandra shouldn't be used instead of stress test, but rather it should be used after a stress test, to check thermal stability.

So, after you've used [insert name of preferred stress test software] to make sure it's stable:

First, make sure Sandra will monitor your temps ok.

Second, select the above mentioned burn-in test, set it to run continuously, and tell it to monitor temps and stop if it gets too hot (you can set the cut off point, I'd set it to 5degrees above whatever the highest you've seen the CPU temp at whilst stress testing), select the CPU tests (or, rather, deselect all the non-cpu tests).

Third, run test.

Fourth, leave to 'burn-in'.

Fifth, check every now and then, say 10-15mins to start, then 30mins a couple of times, then leave it hour between checks, give it 24hrs total and if it's still running, your CPU temps stayed OK.

Freezer7Pro wrote:

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

@Finray:

3 (4, if you count the hyphenation) words: 1. Sandra, 2. Burn-in, 3. Test.
Lol

Linpack > That. Any day.
@Freezer: The thing I like about Sandra is the burn-in test doesn't just do one thing over and over again (which essentially only tests one 'code-path' through the CPU), rather it does lots of different things a few times each, repeatedly, over and over again (which means it tests more of the CPU, overall).

Don't know Linpack.

Linpack?
Linpack?
Linpack?
Linpack?
Linpack?
Linpack?

Which 'Linpack'?

Assuming you're referring to something to do with the first 3 linkys, see what I just said - this Linpack appears to be a floating-point math library that's been wrapped up within a floating-point performance benchmark.

Sure, it's gonna stress your CPU's FPU. But that's all. All you end up knowing is that you can fah fast.
Linpack.

This runs your CPU hotter than all other things. If it's good enough for Intel, it's good enough for you and me.

Also, FM shut up
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
twoblacklines
all grown up now (its boring)
+49|6472

Finray wrote:

DeathUnlimited wrote:

I really wouldn't recommend over 1.5V for 24/7 usage tbh.
It's at 3.6Ghz at 1.55, FSB is 290. No errors in stress test so far.
Im at 3.6ghz on the same chip as you and my vcore is standard, lawl.
GR34
Member
+215|6810|ALBERTA> CANADA
Put the Vcore to 3.99 see what happens........Nothing good will happen if it gets to hot put it in the deep freezer
_j5689_
Dreads & Bergers
+364|6982|Riva, MD
Lucky bastards with your C2Ds
Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6462|Winland

_j5689_ wrote:

Lucky bastards with your C2Ds
You don't have one?
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
Little BaBy JESUS
m8
+394|6414|'straya
Wow that voltage sounds pretty high.

i got a really good chip perfectly stable at 4ghz on 1.26v actual
Finray
Hup! Dos, Tres, Cuatro
+2,629|6053|Catherine Black

_j5689_ wrote:

Lucky bastards with your C2Ds
It's a pentium, actually.
https://i.imgur.com/qwWEP9F.png
Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6462|Winland

Finray wrote:

_j5689_ wrote:

Lucky bastards with your C2Ds
It's a pentium, actually.
No, it's a C2D. Lrn2architecture.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
Finray
Hup! Dos, Tres, Cuatro
+2,629|6053|Catherine Black
Intel Pentium Dual Core E5200

Looks like a pentium to me.
https://i.imgur.com/qwWEP9F.png
DUnlimited
got any popo lolo intersting?
+1,160|6728|cuntshitlake

Finray wrote:

Intel Pentium Dual Core E5200

Looks like a pentium to me.
It's has a Wolfdale 2M core. E8400 has Wolfdale 6M. Pentium 4's were Willamette/Northwood/Gallatin/Prescott/Cedar Mill and Pentium D's were Smithfield/Presler. Do the math there.

Pentium Dual core is just the codename for lower-end Core2Duo's. They only differ by cache amount, and default FSB/Multiplier. The core is the same (For example E5x00, E7x00 and E8x00 all have the same Wolfdale core, but first has 2MB cache, second has 3MB cache and last has 6MB cache. Same goes for 65nm Core2Duo's: E2x00 has 1MB, E4x00 has 2MB and E6xx0 has 4MB. They all share the same Conroe core.)
main battle tank karthus medikopter 117 megamegapowershot gg
Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6462|Winland

Finray wrote:

Intel Pentium Dual Core E5200

Looks like a pentium to me.
Lrn. 2. Architecture.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
Finray
Hup! Dos, Tres, Cuatro
+2,629|6053|Catherine Black

DeathUnlimited wrote:

Finray wrote:

Intel Pentium Dual Core E5200

Looks like a pentium to me.
It's has a Wolfdale 2M core. E8400 has Wolfdale 6M. Pentium 4's were Willamette/Northwood/Gallatin/Prescott/Cedar Mill and Pentium D's were Smithfield/Presler. Do the math there.

Pentium Dual core is just the codename for lower-end Core2Duo's. They only differ by cache amount, and default FSB/Multiplier. The core is the same (For example E5x00, E7x00 and E8x00 all have the same Wolfdale core, but first has 2MB cache, second has 3MB cache and last has 6MB cache. Same goes for 65nm Core2Duo's: E2x00 has 1MB, E4x00 has 2MB and E6xx0 has 4MB. They all share the same Conroe core.)
I know all that (most of it) I was just saying it's a pentium due to the name, not any aspect of the actual processor.

So nou Freezer.
https://i.imgur.com/qwWEP9F.png
Aries_37
arrivederci frog
+368|6840|London

Finray wrote:

DeathUnlimited wrote:

Finray wrote:

Intel Pentium Dual Core E5200

Looks like a pentium to me.
It's has a Wolfdale 2M core. E8400 has Wolfdale 6M. Pentium 4's were Willamette/Northwood/Gallatin/Prescott/Cedar Mill and Pentium D's were Smithfield/Presler. Do the math there.

Pentium Dual core is just the codename for lower-end Core2Duo's. They only differ by cache amount, and default FSB/Multiplier. The core is the same (For example E5x00, E7x00 and E8x00 all have the same Wolfdale core, but first has 2MB cache, second has 3MB cache and last has 6MB cache. Same goes for 65nm Core2Duo's: E2x00 has 1MB, E4x00 has 2MB and E6xx0 has 4MB. They all share the same Conroe core.)
I know all that (most of it) I was just saying it's a pentium due to the name, not any aspect of the actual processor.

So nou Freezer.
lol @ student trying to school his master.

Down padwan. Down.
Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6462|Winland

Finray wrote:

DeathUnlimited wrote:

Finray wrote:

Intel Pentium Dual Core E5200

Looks like a pentium to me.
It's has a Wolfdale 2M core. E8400 has Wolfdale 6M. Pentium 4's were Willamette/Northwood/Gallatin/Prescott/Cedar Mill and Pentium D's were Smithfield/Presler. Do the math there.

Pentium Dual core is just the codename for lower-end Core2Duo's. They only differ by cache amount, and default FSB/Multiplier. The core is the same (For example E5x00, E7x00 and E8x00 all have the same Wolfdale core, but first has 2MB cache, second has 3MB cache and last has 6MB cache. Same goes for 65nm Core2Duo's: E2x00 has 1MB, E4x00 has 2MB and E6xx0 has 4MB. They all share the same Conroe core.)
I know all that (most of it) I was just saying it's a pentium due to the name, not any aspect of the actual processor.

So nou Freezer.
Don't even try. You know, as well as I, what you meant.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
robcr9
Member
+111|6246
Should i get e8500 or e8400?

Mainly for gaming, MSN and work.
Gooners
Wiki Contributor
+2,700|6897

Freezer7Pro wrote:

Finray wrote:

DeathUnlimited wrote:


It's has a Wolfdale 2M core. E8400 has Wolfdale 6M. Pentium 4's were Willamette/Northwood/Gallatin/Prescott/Cedar Mill and Pentium D's were Smithfield/Presler. Do the math there.

Pentium Dual core is just the codename for lower-end Core2Duo's. They only differ by cache amount, and default FSB/Multiplier. The core is the same (For example E5x00, E7x00 and E8x00 all have the same Wolfdale core, but first has 2MB cache, second has 3MB cache and last has 6MB cache. Same goes for 65nm Core2Duo's: E2x00 has 1MB, E4x00 has 2MB and E6xx0 has 4MB. They all share the same Conroe core.)
I know all that (most of it) I was just saying it's a pentium due to the name, not any aspect of the actual processor.

So nou Freezer.
Don't even try. You know, as well as I, what you meant.
Lol @ Finny.

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