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why am i unsurprised that dilbert's cat bears an uncanny resemblance to von ribbentrop.
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I can't see it, sorry
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Just finishing 3 Body Problem.

It's okay. I like the somewhat unique premise and the sci-fi-ness of it all, but I usually read non-fiction so I'm not losing my load over it and probably won't read the others in the series.
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pirana6 wrote:

Just finishing 3 Body Problem.

It's okay. I like the somewhat unique premise and the sci-fi-ness of it all, but I usually read non-fiction so I'm not losing my load over it and probably won't read the others in the series.
I thought the same thing! The premise is intriguing enough to carry a story, but as is my gripe with most sci-fi/fantasy, often authors in those genres spend so much time world-building that it takes away from the focus of the story.

I just received Why Nations Fail, which was written like 10 years ago by the most recent Nobel Prize in Economics recipients. I'm only about 20 pages in but I'm finding it somewhat annoying and not at all what I was expecting. Hopefully it gets better.
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general reaction in the discipline for that economics nobel was a lot of head-scratching i think. it’s generally a bad sign when economists start doing history or political economy. they end up recycling a lot very obvious and already stated material from the other fields but in that specially vatic and silly way that economists have when they’re pronouncing on things they just made up 20 minutes ago as if they’re iron laws of nature.

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From the little I've read so far, it seems like the authors are forcing their viewpoint to go through a very specific lense that i have major gripes with (that being the New Institutional Economics lense) to come to their conclusions. It sounds the same alarm bells in my head that a lot of macro-economic philosophy raises - the desire to retcon how and why institutions form, the insane idea that people are rational actors, and the clunky way a lot of economists try to tiptoe between philosophy, economic theory, and statistics.

I'll still give it a chance, but something tells me it won't be as intellectually stimulating as some of the other books I've read in this area.
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Economists seem a weird lot - banks generate money, debt isn't real, very strange
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pirana6 wrote:

Just finishing 3 Body Problem.

It's okay. I like the somewhat unique premise and the sci-fi-ness of it all, but I usually read non-fiction so I'm not losing my load over it and probably won't read the others in the series.
My sister gave me a three book set including Three Body Problem, does that count as one book or three books?
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KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

From the little I've read so far, it seems like the authors are forcing their viewpoint to go through a very specific lense that i have major gripes with (that being the New Institutional Economics lense) to come to their conclusions. It sounds the same alarm bells in my head that a lot of macro-economic philosophy raises - the desire to retcon how and why institutions form, the insane idea that people are rational actors, and the clunky way a lot of economists try to tiptoe between philosophy, economic theory, and statistics.

I'll still give it a chance, but something tells me it won't be as intellectually stimulating as some of the other books I've read in this area.
i’ve just seen a video interview with the leader of the (probably definitely jihadist) rebels in syria, and he’s citing this book and talking incessantly about institutions. we live in a very strange post-postmodern time.

as a tale about the dangers of economists overreaching their ken and doing bad historical analysis, this one is a little too on the nose. bunch of people razing syria to the ground with acemoglu/robinson tucked under their arms.
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Why assume they are stupid and uneducated?

Most radicals are better informed than the average.
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because the manner of reading a book required to become radicalised is fundamentally at odds with being educated.

it puts me in mind of a phrase i'd repeatedly direct at jay: "a little learning is a dangerous thing".

genuinely well-read and educated people can integrate the 'radicalising' material they are consuming into a wider epistemic framework. they can balance and cantilever it against other things they have read, synthesise it with their own views and experiences, instead of consuming it whole cloth with the monomaniacal focus of the recent convert.

i was being facetious with the comments about the acemoglu/robinson material, which is clearly of a different kind from the jihadist literature normally in the syrian rebel leadership's must-have fashionable tote bags. but it's the same thing inasmuch as it's a 'modish' book that regular economists groan at. anybody familiar with the scholarship or widely read in that field would be able to take those books for what they are, as opposed to becoming fervent disciples. cf. mostly dim tory politicians getting excited about hayek, or american neoconservatives talking about ayn rand.

people who study theology in seminaries or divinity schools don't tend to be the ones blowing themselves up. it's always some disaffected shut-in or psychological case, or a rube taken away from working the plough. the actually educated imams and clerical class know what they're doing.

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Re-reading Starship Troopers, for comparison.

Maybe Trump is creating the US-UK-Russia Hegemony to defeat China, who knows?
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in the sense that all the propaganda wants you to believe china is a bugrace, but actually they're deeply sensitive souls with a more advanced civilisation than the west, then yes.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/2ptIxR8hDWM

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I think the point is everything is a bug-race, we have to win this race.
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in heinlein's anal-retentive STEM nerd crypto-fascist worldview, yes.

verhoeven had the better idea, growing up during ww2 in a country actually obliterated by fascism.

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uziq wrote:

in heinlein's anal-retentive STEM nerd crypto-fascist worldview, yes.
OK cool
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he was essentially a jay. institutionalised and sculpted by the military-industrial complex, 'serving' as the equivalent of an IT guy.

then wrote a bunch of crypto-fascist power fantasy books for crew-cut repressed nerds who couldn't make sense of life outside of the suckling teet of the military.

bad writer, actually! not good!
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Well the questions and arguments he put forward are reasonable, whether his answers are there to create more argument is arguable.
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