New Mobo Needed!!!!!!!!!!!!

2009-01-21 13:53:00

#1

rammunition: Fully Loaded; +143|6126

ok, i built a computer about 6 months ago and feel the need for a new GPU. here are my specs

Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS3 iP35 mobo
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 G0 Stepping (2.4GHz 1066MHz)
4GB OCZ DDR2 800MHz
Zotac 8800GT 512MB DDR3
500GB Samsung Spinpoint HDD/250GB Maxtor maxline HDD
Hp dvd-rw 1040i drive
620W coolermaster M620 Modular PSU
Vista Home Premium 64 bit/Ubuntu 8.10 64-bit/Windows 7 beta
HP vs17e 17"monitor

now the reason i want a new mobo is because its a P35, and has a PCI-E 1.1

so i was just wondering whats a good P45 mobo thats cheap, has a PCI-E 2.0 X16 slot, a decent overclocker (getting my Q6600 to at least 3GHz), DDR2 support, and is easy to use

Last edited by rammunition (2009-01-21 13:53:41)

2009-01-21 13:55:17

#2

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6678|Finland

eh PCI-E 2.0 is NOT a good reason to upgrade mobo.... you will not notice the difference even if u put a GTX 280 there.

edit: keep that mobo and use the money you save for better gfx card.

Last edited by GC_PaNzerFIN (2009-01-21 13:56:55)

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2009-01-21 13:57:33

#3

rammunition: Fully Loaded; +143|6126

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
eh PCI-E 2.0 is NOT a good reason to upgrade mobo.... you will not notice the difference even if u put a GTX 280 there.

man, just for "Future proofing", i don't want to build a new computer for another 4 years, til the 6 core chips are out from intel, so a new mobo which will let me get the latest GPU's play to their full potential is on the agenda

2009-01-21 13:58:57

#4

Brasso: member; +1,549|6894

rammunition wrote:
GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
eh PCI-E 2.0 is NOT a good reason to upgrade mobo.... you will not notice the difference even if u put a GTX 280 there.
i don't want to build a new computer for another 4 years

find a new hobby, i'm not joking. not trying to be an asshole, it's just inevitable that you're going to need to upgrade SOMETHING before 4 years. even 3 is a stretch.

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2009-01-21 13:59:34

#5

jaymz9350: Member; +54|6841

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
eh PCI-E 2.0 is NOT a good reason to upgrade mobo.... you will not notice the difference even if u put a GTX 280 there.

edit: keep that mobo and use the money you save for better gfx card.

He's right. you will see no difference with pci-e 2.0. I'm perfectly happy with my p-35 board and you should have no problem getting your q6600 to 3.0+ with your current board (mine's at 3.6 on a p-35 board)

2009-01-21 14:00:15

#6

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6678|Finland

rammunition wrote:
GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
eh PCI-E 2.0 is NOT a good reason to upgrade mobo.... you will not notice the difference even if u put a GTX 280 there.
man, just for "Future proofing", i don't want to build a new computer for another 4 years, til the 6 core chips are out from intel, so a new mobo which will let me get the latest GPU's play to their full potential is on the agenda

there isn't a gfx card out that has noticable benefit from PCI-E 2.0. P45 is no more future proof than your current P35. Intel is swapping sockets this year and S775 is going to get replaced by S1160 and S1366.

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2009-01-21 14:01:10

#7

rammunition: Fully Loaded; +143|6126

haffeysucks wrote:
rammunition wrote:
GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
eh PCI-E 2.0 is NOT a good reason to upgrade mobo.... you will not notice the difference even if u put a GTX 280 there.
i don't want to build a new computer for another 4 years
find a new hobby, i'm not joking. not trying to be an asshole, it's just inevitable that you're going to need to upgrade SOMETHING before 4 years. even 3 is a stretch.

im going to uni in the summer aswell, won't be upgrading much whilst i am studying away

2009-01-21 14:02:28

#8

Brasso: member; +1,549|6894

rammunition wrote:
haffeysucks wrote:
rammunition wrote:

i don't want to build a new computer for another 4 years
find a new hobby, i'm not joking. not trying to be an asshole, it's just inevitable that you're going to need to upgrade SOMETHING before 4 years. even 3 is a stretch.
im going to uni in the summer aswell, won't be upgrading much whilst i am studying away

well that's fine and well, but when you come back, i can guarantee that you'll want to upgrade at least one major component

"people in ny have a general idea of how to drive. one of the pedals goes forward the other one prevents you from dying"

2009-01-21 14:04:18

#9

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6678|Finland

P45 won't give you anything worth over P35. If u feel like u have too much money to spend shovel it to the gfx card.

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2009-01-21 14:05:22

#10

Microwave: _; +515|6919|Loughborough Uni / Leeds, UK

Is there really not that much of an improvement?

I've just send my P35 asus board back for an RMA and I'm going to ask / pay for an upgrade to an X48 for my new GTX 260. Is it not really worth it then?

2009-01-21 14:09:17

#11

rammunition: Fully Loaded; +143|6126

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
P45 won't give you anything worth over P35. If u feel like u have too much money to spend shovel it to the gfx card.

i don't have much money, i have about £150. i want to sell my 8800GT for about £70, and my mobo for £60, total will be about £280, i will want to then spend about £70-£80 on a good P45 mobo and about £200 on a 4870 1GB

2009-01-21 14:10:40

#12

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6678|Finland

james@alienware wrote:
Is there really not that much of an improvement?

I've just send my P35 asus board back for an RMA and I'm going to ask / pay for an upgrade to an X48 for my new GTX 260. Is it not really worth it then?

X48 is hell a lot of different than P45. X48 is as good as it gets. best features, top of the line performance with CF etc.

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2009-01-21 14:11:51

#13

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6678|Finland

rammunition wrote:
GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
P45 won't give you anything worth over P35. If u feel like u have too much money to spend shovel it to the gfx card.
i don't have much money, i have about £150. i want to sell my 8800GT for about £70, and my mobo for £60, total will be about £280, i will want to then spend about £70-£80 on a good P45 mobo and about £200 on a 4870 1GB

I dunno but how are you going to get any cheaper by changing ur mobo as well? just get the HD 4870 1GB and thats it.

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2009-01-21 14:13:13

#14

Microwave: _; +515|6919|Loughborough Uni / Leeds, UK

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
james@alienware wrote:
Is there really not that much of an improvement?

I've just send my P35 asus board back for an RMA and I'm going to ask / pay for an upgrade to an X48 for my new GTX 260. Is it not really worth it then?
X48 is hell a lot of different than P45. X48 is as good as it gets. best features, top of the line performance with CF etc.

Yeah, I know. But I was talking with respect to PCI-E > PCI-E 2.0 as you were saying there's not a noticeable improvement.

I'm wanting the X48 for a more stable oc'ing platform, + the clear cmos button, lcd poster etc (Rampage formula).

2009-01-21 14:14:39

#15

Brasso: member; +1,549|6894

james@alienware wrote:
GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
james@alienware wrote:
Is there really not that much of an improvement?

I've just send my P35 asus board back for an RMA and I'm going to ask / pay for an upgrade to an X48 for my new GTX 260. Is it not really worth it then?
X48 is hell a lot of different than P45. X48 is as good as it gets. best features, top of the line performance with CF etc.
Yeah, I know. But I was talking with respect to PCI-E > PCI-E 2.0 as you were saying there's not a noticeable improvement.

I'm wanting the X48 for a more stable oc'ing platform, + the clear cmos button, lcd poster etc (Rampage formula).

don't be willing to pay too much extra for those little extras. if you want to pay more for the X48 performance itself then by all means go for it. but little extras like the clear CMOS button and the LCD POST screen thing are just overpriced and unnecessary.

"people in ny have a general idea of how to drive. one of the pedals goes forward the other one prevents you from dying"

2009-01-21 14:15:49

#16

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6678|Finland

james@alienware wrote:
GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
james@alienware wrote:
Is there really not that much of an improvement?

I've just send my P35 asus board back for an RMA and I'm going to ask / pay for an upgrade to an X48 for my new GTX 260. Is it not really worth it then?
X48 is hell a lot of different than P45. X48 is as good as it gets. best features, top of the line performance with CF etc.
Yeah, I know. But I was talking with respect to PCI-E > PCI-E 2.0 as you were saying there's not a noticeable improvement.

I'm wanting the X48 for a more stable oc'ing platform, + the clear cmos button, lcd poster etc (Rampage formula).

there is a small difference but u won't notice it... Basically you have otehgr reasons to get X48 as well. PCI-E 2.0 alone doesn't justify it. Its the features like you said. that nice lcd psoter, as good overclokcing as it gets, etc.

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2009-01-21 14:16:45

#17

Microwave: _; +515|6919|Loughborough Uni / Leeds, UK

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
james@alienware wrote:
GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

X48 is hell a lot of different than P45. X48 is as good as it gets. best features, top of the line performance with CF etc.
Yeah, I know. But I was talking with respect to PCI-E > PCI-E 2.0 as you were saying there's not a noticeable improvement.

I'm wanting the X48 for a more stable oc'ing platform, + the clear cmos button, lcd poster etc (Rampage formula).
there is a small difference but u won't notice it... Basically you have otehgr reasons to get X48 as well. PCI-E 2.0 alone doesn't justify it. Its the features like you said. that nice lcd psoter, as good overclokcing as it gets, etc.

Yeah, ok cheers.

2009-01-21 14:19:33

#18

Bell: Frosties > Cornflakes; +362|6813|UK

rammunition wrote:
GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
P45 won't give you anything worth over P35. If u feel like u have too much money to spend shovel it to the gfx card.
i don't have much money, i have about £150. i want to sell my 8800GT for about £70, and my mobo for £60, total will be about £280, i will want to then spend about £70-£80 on a good P45 mobo and about £200 on a 4870 1GB

Tad optimistic imo, I see 8800GT's sell for £50 most of the time, bit dubious about the mobo estimat aswell.

I really doubt you would notice any improvement running a 1GB 4870 in the P45 as you would in the P35.

2009-01-22 03:12:04

#19

rammunition: Fully Loaded; +143|6126

Bell wrote:
rammunition wrote:
GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
P45 won't give you anything worth over P35. If u feel like u have too much money to spend shovel it to the gfx card.
i don't have much money, i have about £150. i want to sell my 8800GT for about £70, and my mobo for £60, total will be about £280, i will want to then spend about £70-£80 on a good P45 mobo and about £200 on a 4870 1GB
Tad optimistic imo, I see 8800GT's sell for £50 most of the time, bit dubious about the mobo estimat aswell.

i paid £90 for the 8800GT 6 months go, got it from Ebuyer, the reason i say about £70 is because lots of people are after the Zotac as they are cheap but are hard to find, the same card is at Play.com for £95 atm. i have seen a zotac GTX260 for £180 on ebuyer they flew out the window.

the mobo i got for £73,same place and time, its a very good overclocker, will serve well as a media centre imo

recommend some P45 mobo's!!!

Last edited by rammunition (2009-01-22 03:17:49)

2009-01-22 03:24:02

#20

FatherTed: xD; +3,936|6764|so randum

rammunition wrote:
Bell wrote:
rammunition wrote:

i don't have much money, i have about £150. i want to sell my 8800GT for about £70, and my mobo for £60, total will be about £280, i will want to then spend about £70-£80 on a good P45 mobo and about £200 on a 4870 1GB
Tad optimistic imo, I see 8800GT's sell for £50 most of the time, bit dubious about the mobo estimat aswell.
i paid £90 for the 8800GT 6 months go, got it from Ebuyer, the reason i say about £70 is because lots of people are after the Zotac as they are cheap but are hard to find, the same card is at Play.com for £95 atm. i have seen a zotac GTX260 for £180 on ebuyer they flew out the window.

the mobo i got for £73,same place and time, its a very good overclocker, will serve well as a media centre imo

recommend some P45 mobo's!!!

Just one more time, you understand you honestly don't need a P45, and it wouldn't be future proofing you one bit?

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2009-01-22 04:29:02

#21

']['error.V2: Om nom nom nom; +48|6078

You don't need a P45 like everyone else said. You're better of putting the money away for 3 years and then buy a new GPU + mobo. The components you buy then will cost you roughly the same price and are 10 times better than a 4870 + P45 mobo.

2009-01-22 04:36:17

#22

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6678|Finland

either get only the HD 4870 or wait.

Looks like you have already decided to get P45 and simply refuse to understand the fact that it DOESN'T BENEFIT U A BIT.

This is like talking to a stone or tree.... Its not my money but all we are trying to do is prevent you from wasting your money to something as useless as this.

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2009-01-22 09:36:14

#23

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6461|Winland

Yes, rammunition, please listen to us!!!!!!! The extra bandwidth of PCI-E 2.0 is not neccesary, and it will barely be even in three years!!!!!!!

Remember AGP?!?!?!? That bus can run many graphics cards decently, including the 3850 without any performance issues. AGP has one fourth of the bandwidth of PCI-E 1.1!!!!!!!

Just keep going with your P35, and shell out on an awesome graphics card instead!!!!!!! Aim for a GTX280 or the likes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Last edited by Freezer7Pro (2009-01-22 09:50:42)

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

2009-01-22 09:38:17

#24

max: Vela Incident; +1,652|6831|NYC / Hamburg

This thread needs more exclamation marks tbh.

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2009-01-22 09:51:00

#25

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6461|Winland

max wrote:
This thread needs more exclamation marks tbh.

Edited.

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

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