Gtx295 + 2gb + Xp = ???

2009-01-24 22:39:16

#26

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6461|Winland

<SS>SonderKommando wrote:
Is it just me, or have we finally reached the point that you have to have Vista64 bit to have a serious gaming machine? Think about it man, you have to have Vista for DX10 and 64bit for these RAM configurations. Panzer for example his, 920 3 x 2 GB tirple channel DDR3 and 295 on XP would = fail.

Just get an OEM version of vista. I got one when I built *this machine, works great.

No, I think we should all keep on running an 8-year-old OS on an architecture designed in the late 80's.

...

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

2009-01-25 03:22:33

#27

Sup3r_Dr4gon: Boat sig is not there anymore; +214|6591|Australia

Sup3r_Dr4gon wrote:
One more thing - *QUESTION*

Okay, I lied, I have another.

What would happen if I put, say, DDR3-1600 in a slot that supports up to DDR3-1333? My guess is that the machine automatically downclocks the RAM to 1333MHz but leaves the timings unchanged (which are normally higher then those of lower clocked RAM), but I'm not 100% sure.

2009-01-25 03:22:44

#28

TimmmmaaaaH: Damn, I... had something for this; +725|6704|Brisbane, Australia

Cybargs wrote:
VRAM and System Ram is completely unrelated... You won't lose anything.

Ah Ninja, can always be counted on for a token idiot comment.

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2009-01-25 04:42:58

#29

max: Vela Incident; +1,652|6832|NYC / Hamburg

Sup3r_Dr4gon wrote:
Sup3r_Dr4gon wrote:
One more thing - *QUESTION*
Okay, I lied, I have another.

What would happen if I put, say, DDR3-1600 in a slot that supports up to DDR3-1333? My guess is that the machine automatically downclocks the RAM to 1333MHz but leaves the timings unchanged (which are normally higher then those of lower clocked RAM), but I'm not 100% sure.

well, sorta. It sets the ram by the SPD speed and timings programmed into the ram. On high end ram that is usually some ridiculously low speed with high timings. To get your rated speed/timing you may have to change the timings and ram divider manually, increase the voltage and possibly OC the FSB if you don't have a divider that's high enough.

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2009-01-25 04:59:46

#30

Bertster7: Confused Pothead; +1,101|6846|SE London

CrazeD wrote:
Cybargs wrote:
VRAM and System Ram is completely unrelated... You won't lose anything.
No it's not. 32 bit calculates system RAM and VRAM together.

However, you only have 896MB of VRAM.

No. He has 1.7GB of VRAM - I don't know where you get 896MB from, it's not a 260, it's a 295.

2009-01-25 05:02:05

#31

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6678|Finland

Bertster7 wrote:
CrazeD wrote:
Cybargs wrote:
VRAM and System Ram is completely unrelated... You won't lose anything.
No it's not. 32 bit calculates system RAM and VRAM together.

However, you only have 896MB of VRAM.
No. He has 1.7GB of VRAM - I don't know where you get 896MB from, it's not a 260, it's a 295.

to be exact it is 2*896 as the GPUs are from GTX 285 and the memory system is from GTX 260.

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2009-01-25 05:03:47

#32

Bertster7: Confused Pothead; +1,101|6846|SE London

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
Bertster7 wrote:
CrazeD wrote:

No it's not. 32 bit calculates system RAM and VRAM together.

However, you only have 896MB of VRAM.
No. He has 1.7GB of VRAM - I don't know where you get 896MB from, it's not a 260, it's a 295.
to be exact it is 2*896 as the GPUs are from GTX 285 and the memory system is from GTX 260.

Still all needs addressing.

2009-01-25 05:05:17

#33

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6678|Finland

Bertster7 wrote:
GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
Bertster7 wrote:

No. He has 1.7GB of VRAM - I don't know where you get 896MB from, it's not a 260, it's a 295.
to be exact it is 2*896 as the GPUs are from GTX 285 and the memory system is from GTX 260.
Still all needs addressing.

I didn't say it doesn't... I have seen funky memory amounts with the HD4870X2 2GB on XP...

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2009-01-25 05:05:27

#34

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6461|Winland

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
Bertster7 wrote:
CrazeD wrote:

No it's not. 32 bit calculates system RAM and VRAM together.

However, you only have 896MB of VRAM.
No. He has 1.7GB of VRAM - I don't know where you get 896MB from, it's not a 260, it's a 295.
to be exact it is 2*896 as the GPUs are from GTX 285 and the memory system is from GTX 260.

15032385536b. To be exact.

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

2009-01-25 05:08:52

#35

max: Vela Incident; +1,652|6832|NYC / Hamburg

oh you

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2009-01-25 05:09:53

#36

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6678|Finland

Little knitpicking today freezer?

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2009-01-25 06:08:45

#37

max: Vela Incident; +1,652|6832|NYC / Hamburg

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
Little knitpicking today freezer?

It's nitpicking

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2009-01-25 06:20:53

#38

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6678|Finland

max wrote:
GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
Little knitpicking today freezer?
It's nitpicking

o fuck... typo... :>

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2009-01-25 06:26:17

#39

max: Vela Incident; +1,652|6832|NYC / Hamburg

_{once upon a midnight dreary, while i pron surfed, weak and weary, over many a strange and spurious site of ' hot xxx galore'. While i clicked my fav'rite bookmark, suddenly there came a warning, and my heart was filled with mourning, mourning for my dear amour, " 'Tis not possible!", i muttered, " give me back my free hardcore!"..... quoth the server, 404.}

2009-01-25 06:28:48

#40

Scorpion0x17: can detect anyone's visible post count...; +691|7030|Cambridge (UK)

One ends a sentence with a fullstop (or a period, if you're American), max.

2009-01-25 06:30:22

#41

max: Vela Incident; +1,652|6832|NYC / Hamburg

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2009-01-25 06:36:23

#42

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2009-01-25 10:46:40

#43

CrazeD: Member; +368|6937|Maine

Bertster7 wrote:
CrazeD wrote:
Cybargs wrote:
VRAM and System Ram is completely unrelated... You won't lose anything.
No it's not. 32 bit calculates system RAM and VRAM together.

However, you only have 896MB of VRAM.
No. He has 1.7GB of VRAM - I don't know where you get 896MB from, it's not a 260, it's a 295.

SLI doesn't add the memory up. It mirrors it, you only have 896MB available.

2009-01-25 12:35:19

#44

SonderKommando: Eat, Lift, Grow, Repeat....; +564|6924|The darkside of Denver

Freezer7Pro wrote:
<SS>SonderKommando wrote:
Is it just me, or have we finally reached the point that you have to have Vista64 bit to have a serious gaming machine? Think about it man, you have to have Vista for DX10 and 64bit for these RAM configurations. Panzer for example his, 920 3 x 2 GB tirple channel DDR3 and 295 on XP would = fail.

Just get an OEM version of vista. I got one when I built *this machine, works great.
No, I think we should all keep on running an 8-year-old OS on an architecture designed in the late 80's.

...

damn Freezer, I was just making an observation and trying to point out if he just went the Vista 64 route this whole memory debacle would be a moot point.. No need for the sarcasm

2009-01-25 14:26:32

#45

CrazeD: Member; +368|6937|Maine

<SS>SonderKommando wrote:
Freezer7Pro wrote:
<SS>SonderKommando wrote:
Is it just me, or have we finally reached the point that you have to have Vista64 bit to have a serious gaming machine? Think about it man, you have to have Vista for DX10 and 64bit for these RAM configurations. Panzer for example his, 920 3 x 2 GB tirple channel DDR3 and 295 on XP would = fail.

Just get an OEM version of vista. I got one when I built *this machine, works great.
No, I think we should all keep on running an 8-year-old OS on an architecture designed in the late 80's.

...
damn Freezer, I was just making an observation and trying to point out if he just went the Vista 64 route this whole memory debacle would be a moot point.. No need for the sarcasm

Or XP 64.

2009-01-25 20:54:03

#46

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6461|Winland

CrazeD wrote:
Bertster7 wrote:
CrazeD wrote:

No it's not. 32 bit calculates system RAM and VRAM together.

However, you only have 896MB of VRAM.
No. He has 1.7GB of VRAM - I don't know where you get 896MB from, it's not a 260, it's a 295.
SLI doesn't add the memory up. It mirrors it, you only have 896MB available.

What exactly do you mean? The most popular rendering techniques split the screen in two and render one half with one card and one half with the other. I don't see how that memory can be mirrored.

No matter, there are still 1792MB of chips on the card. 1792MB that needs addressing.

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

2009-01-26 00:59:06

#47

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6678|Finland

Freezer7Pro wrote:
CrazeD wrote:
Bertster7 wrote:
No. He has 1.7GB of VRAM - I don't know where you get 896MB from, it's not a 260, it's a 295.
SLI doesn't add the memory up. It mirrors it, you only have 896MB available.
What exactly do you mean? The most popular rendering techniques split the screen in two and render one half with one card and one half with the other. I don't see how that memory can be mirrored.

No matter, there are still 1792MB of chips on the card. 1792MB that needs addressing.

actually, AFR is more popular. At least for the latest cards.

And in this mode the GPU has max of 896MB memory to use (a bit bottleneck at 2560x2048).

AMD is supposed to be planning on making the next X2 card with shared memory for both GPUs.

Last edited by GC_PaNzerFIN (2009-01-26 01:04:17)

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2009-01-26 01:00:28

#48

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6461|Winland

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
Freezer7Pro wrote:
CrazeD wrote:

SLI doesn't add the memory up. It mirrors it, you only have 896MB available.
What exactly do you mean? The most popular rendering techniques split the screen in two and render one half with one card and one half with the other. I don't see how that memory can be mirrored.

No matter, there are still 1792MB of chips on the card. 1792MB that needs addressing.
actually, AFR is more popular. At least for the latest cards.

K. Still doesn't change the fact that there is 1.7GB of RAM to address.

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

2009-01-26 01:10:05

#49

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6678|Finland

the split screen would be more ideal as it would pretty much eliminate the micro-stuttering issue (which I have with fallout 3). I tried manually using split screen mode for SLi and tbh it was total crap, game ran poorly and there was moving black line between the rendering parts... Enough to tell its very hard to make split screen profiles these day. So we are stuck with the less good AFR for a good while... with microstuttering and all.

edit: the micro-stuttering issue has almost been fixed for nvidia and I can't see it in any other game than fo3.

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2009-01-26 01:29:07

#50

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6461|Winland

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
the split screen would be more ideal as it would pretty much eliminate the micro-stuttering issue (which I have with fallout 3). I tried manually using split screen mode for SLi and tbh it was total crap, game ran poorly and there was moving black line between the rendering parts... Enough to tell its very hard to make split screen profiles these day. So we are stuck with the less good AFR for a good while... with microstuttering and all.

edit: the micro-stuttering issue has almost been fixed for nvidia and I can't see it in any other game than fo3.

But there's still 1.7GB to address.

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

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<SS>SonderKommando wrote:

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max wrote:

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Cybargs wrote:

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