Web redesign - Your valued opinion is wanted. :)

2009-01-26 12:12:27

#1

Zimmer: Un Moderador; +1,688|7195|Scotland

Yeah, it really is. I want you to rip it apart, rape it, criticise it. Whatever. I just want to you to explain WHY it sucks ( if it does, of course ).

Currently the design over at arktive.com is unprofessional, unclean and downright nasty ( if you disagree, then say so! ). So me and my partners have been coming up with new design ideas and shit. It's not been a productive week, I must say, but we did come up with one idea.

I come to you because you are normal users, some with an eye for design and some without, which is what every site is usually aimed for. So your input is greatly valued by me. I want several hundred fresh eyes on this telling me how sucky it is, or how good it is. It gives me a different perspective and allows me to develop more.

Please try and be constructive though, I don't really want to just see "It's shit" without giving a reason.

Here is the current attempt at a redesign. My opinion? I hate the font used for the logo, and the rest... well, I don't know, which is why I need your thoughts.

Thanks, your help is greatly appreciated.

Right click -> view image for full size.

2009-01-26 12:14:06

#2

Gooners: Wiki Contributor; +2,700|7071

make a mirror effect on the bottom bar, (bla, home etc.)

Would look nice.

2009-01-26 12:14:40

#3

Vilham: Say wat!?; +580|7205|UK

I think its very web 2.0 actually. Looks clean and simple to navigate.

2009-01-26 12:16:31

#4

FatherTed: xD; +3,936|6939|so randum

don't know why exactly, but the bit at the bottom in red really clashes with the blue (cyan) of the ads. But thats most likely just me

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2009-01-26 12:16:39

#5

GCFC: Davide Santon; +45|6368|NY/CT

Gooners wrote:
make a mirror effect on the bottom bar, (bla, home etc.)

Would look nice.

i agree

and change the red hightlighter to something like the color of the x in my avatar?

Last edited by GCFC (2009-01-26 12:17:39)

2009-01-26 12:19:19

#6

kylef: Gone; +1,352|6932|N. Ireland

Think the (water?) is a bit too much.. the length is perfect but it is a bit to much in height imo, makes everything looked cramped to me

2009-01-26 12:19:22

#7

Zimmer: Un Moderador; +1,688|7195|Scotland

FatherTed wrote:
don't know why exactly, but the bit at the bottom in red really clashes with the blue (cyan) of the ads. But thats most likely just me

It was made primarily to clash with it so it was more visible. But maybe it's the wrong colour.

I dislike mirror effects, primarly because it's a very "noobish" thing to do with web design, but I will look into see what it could look like.

Thanks for the feedback guys, but I still haven't gotten an overall opinion?

Please, please, don't hold back. There will be no banning taking place for being abusive about the design.

2009-01-26 12:20:09

#8

Brasso: member; +1,549|7069

as others have said, the red clashes a little. I think a more maroon-like color would fit better.

i actually like the font by the way.

Last edited by haffeysucks (2009-01-26 12:20:36)

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2009-01-26 12:22:07

#9

Zimmer: Un Moderador; +1,688|7195|Scotland

@ Kyle : it's ice. A close up picture of ice that my designer took. Mmm, well, we tried several other designs and nothing really worked. Maybe we should try a different approach of showcasing stuff, but nothing is coming to mind.

Ok, will look into a different colour for the red.

2009-01-26 12:27:31

#10

ghettoperson: Member; +1,943|7088

I feel it's perhaps suffering a little too much from web2.0iarrhea

2009-01-26 12:28:26

#11

menzo: ̏̏̏̏̏̏̏̏&#; +616|6885|Amsterdam‫

the one you had a few days ago was pretty nice, only the scroll thing was odd

https://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee37/menzo2003/fredbf2.png

2009-01-26 12:29:10

#12

bugz: Fission Mailed; +3,311|6751

A visible border on each of the "blocks" rather than having them blend into the background would look better imo.

A light bluish (kinda like the font for the site titles) glow under the nav buttons might look better than the red highlight.

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2009-01-26 12:29:44

#13

aerodynamic: FOCKING HELL; +241|6192|Roma

The design is actually really nice, simple, clean and fresh/cool looking.
The Arkative font is nicely done, also the site images, but the bottom needs work.
The red square is to big and feels out of place.
I suggest using a color that is not as standing out as the red, perhaps a bit darker red or something.
Also, since you guys focus in web development and design, you should write what you guys do and what you guys do better than any body else.
At first i didn't know what the website was about until i went to the old website.

And something aside, I do design (logo, poster, prints [magazines & newspaper], t-shirt) and would like to also major in web sites.
I could be some help if you want.

Last edited by aerodynamic (2009-01-26 12:35:47)

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2009-01-26 12:32:17

#14

ghettoperson: Member; +1,943|7088

aerodynamic wrote:
The design is actually really nice, simple, clean and fresh/cool looking.
The Arkative font is nicely done, also the site images, but the bottom needs work.
The red square is to big and feels out of place.
I suggest using a color that is not as standing out as the red, perhaps a bit darker red or something.
Also, since you guys focus in web development and design, you should write what you guys do and what you guys do better than any body else.
At first i didn't know what the website was about until i went to the old website.

And something aside, I do design (logo, poster, prints [magazines & newspaper]) and would like to also major in web sites.
I could be some help if you want.

Don't trust him, he's a Mac user; he'll just make everything on the site mirrored.

2009-01-26 12:33:10

#15

aerodynamic: FOCKING HELL; +241|6192|Roma

i actually hate mirror effects or that water reflection effect.
They look horrible.

2009-01-26 12:33:45

#16

Zimmer: Un Moderador; +1,688|7195|Scotland

ghettoperson wrote:
I feel it's perhaps suffering a little too much from web2.0iarrhea

I hate web2.0, this wasn't really aimed at the whole web2.0 shazzam, but more at "it's simple, it gets the point across and it's clear".

It's a basic font, a 1 image background and a showcase of sites. Yes, the nav is web2.0ish, but then again, web2.0 is an idea, and can be identified in everything. I don't know, I can't really disagree with any of your comments because all of them were primarily bothering me.

I just can't see something else right now.

But something needs to be done as the current one is utter shit.

@ Aero - yeah, the desciptive part was going to be where the "zimmering bacon" shit is. That was just my designer playing around.

2009-01-26 12:35:21

#17

Toilet Sex: one love, one pig; +1,775|7011

'Arktive' has some major kerning problems IMO.

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2009-01-26 12:37:22

#18

Zimmer: Un Moderador; +1,688|7195|Scotland

Toilet Sex wrote:
'Arktive' has some major kerning problems IMO.

Yeah, like I said, I think the font fails hard. But are you referring to the actual word or the font?

I was thinking a basic helvetica neue std, but it's used too much.

2009-01-26 12:38:02

#19

Peter: Super Awesome Member; +494|6841|dm_maidenhead

The sharp corners of the boxes don't go well with the smooth ice imo. I do t know what you could do to fix it though because if the buttons were too round they would look gay. Maybe a different background picture?

I don't know anything about web design though so don't listen to me D:

2009-01-26 12:38:52

#20

aerodynamic: FOCKING HELL; +241|6192|Roma

Zimmer wrote:
Toilet Sex wrote:
'Arktive' has some major kerning problems IMO.
Yeah, like I said, I think the font fails hard. But are you referring to the actual word or the font?

I was thinking a basic helvetica neue std, but it's used too much.

nah, no more helvetica.
I got tired of it, almost everybody got tired of it.
The font tbh looks nice as it is.

2009-01-26 12:40:03

#21

Toilet Sex: one love, one pig; +1,775|7011

The font is alright I think, it's just you need to get in and sort the kerning out rather than adjust the letterspacing between all the characters. Like the space between a and r is too big, same with v and e. K and t are pretty much touching, while i looks like it needs to be closer to t.

PS, I wouldn't dis-miss Helvetica just because it's common. Helvetica at large sizes has the most beautiful curves of any type family IMO.

And shit me that made me look like a nerd.

Last edited by Toilet Sex (2009-01-26 12:41:29)

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2009-01-26 12:41:57

#22

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6636|Winland

I think you could make the marker a little darker, and perhaps give it some texture. Perhaps just some little "u"-shaped shadow on the lower part. Not many gradients dark. The corners of the ad-thingies could be made a bit softer, too. Perhaps make the whole semi-transparent part fade a little instead of being so abrupt.

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

2009-01-26 12:42:21

#23

Zimmer: Un Moderador; +1,688|7195|Scotland

Peter wrote:
The sharp corners of the boxes don't go well with the smooth ice imo. I do t know what you could do to fix it though because if the buttons were too round they would look gay. Maybe a different background picture?

I don't know anything about web design though so don't listen to me D:

I don't want people with web design experience coming in here and telling me it fails hard. I want people like you coming in here and telling me that. That is the difference.

I want normal users to tell me what they think because it will be normal users accessing the site for web development, not web designers. I want you to tell me what you would think if you ran into my site and were attracted by it or not. I want you to say "Nah, I wouldn't let them work for me" or "Fuck yeah, these guys look awesome". There is no need for more web designers commenting on this, I already have 3 on it and that's quite enough. I need input from a normal i'net user.

2009-01-26 12:45:26

#24

Toilet Sex: one love, one pig; +1,775|7011

Zimmer wrote:
Peter wrote:
The sharp corners of the boxes don't go well with the smooth ice imo. I do t know what you could do to fix it though because if the buttons were too round they would look gay. Maybe a different background picture?

I don't know anything about web design though so don't listen to me D:
I don't want people with web design experience coming in here and telling me it fails hard. I want people like you coming in here and telling me that. That is the difference.

I want normal users to tell me what they think because it will be normal users accessing the site for web development, not web designers. I want you to tell me what you would think if you ran into my site and were attracted by it or not. I want you to say "Nah, I wouldn't let them work for me" or "Fuck yeah, these guys look awesome". There is no need for more web designers commenting on this, I already have 3 on it and that's quite enough. I need input from a normal i'net user.

tbh I don't know who these web designers are but there's a lot of kerning problems in the designs on the original site which have been missed.

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2009-01-26 12:46:13

#25

aerodynamic: FOCKING HELL; +241|6192|Roma

Toilet Sex wrote:
The font is alright I think, it's just you need to get in and sort the kerning out rather than adjust the letterspacing between all the characters. Like the space between a and r is too big, same with v and e. K and t are pretty much touching, while i looks like it needs to be closer to t.

PS, I wouldn't dis-miss Helvetica just because it's common. Helvetica at large sizes has the most beautiful curves of any type family IMO.

And shit me that made me look like a nerd.

The thing is, Helvetica is the most beautiful and yet simple font in the world now, but even Times news roman looks great when you know how to use it.
Its just so over used.

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