Lotta_Drool
Spit
+350|6599|Ireland
The American people in their infinite wisdom elected Democrats to a massive majority to fix these issues.  Relax, nothing can go wrong with this plan.
Varegg
Support fanatic :-)
+2,206|7225|Nårvei

Moderation is for the masses, the rich getting filthy rich is sending a good signal to the public making them to think twice before they spend their welfare money on starbucks ...
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Braddock
Agitator
+916|6706|Éire

Lotta_Drool wrote:

The American people in their infinite wisdom elected Democrats to a massive majority to fix these issues.  Relax, nothing can go wrong with this plan.
I wonder if Bush thinks it shameful.
Agent_Dung_Bomb
Member
+302|7151|Salt Lake City

Lotta_Drool wrote:

The American people in their infinite wisdom elected Democrats to a massive majority to fix these issues.  Relax, nothing can go wrong with this plan.
Except that these bonuses were paid out of the original stimulus while GWB was still in office, and approved by both Dems and Repubs.
Lotta_Drool
Spit
+350|6599|Ireland

Braddock wrote:

Lotta_Drool wrote:

The American people in their infinite wisdom elected Democrats to a massive majority to fix these issues.  Relax, nothing can go wrong with this plan.
I wonder if Bush thinks it shameful.
Bush, the republicans, and the democrats in a bipartisan effort pushed damn near a trillion thru to the banks in the matter of a few weeks.  They ALL think this is great.  Now, if only it were bankers jumping across the fence on our border heading to mexico, then you would see the borders secured in a matter of days.
DrunkFace
Germans did 911
+427|7097|Disaster Free Zone
They obviously deserve these bonuses and should have got a tax cut as well. /Lowing.
Braddock
Agitator
+916|6706|Éire

Lotta_Drool wrote:

Braddock wrote:

Lotta_Drool wrote:

The American people in their infinite wisdom elected Democrats to a massive majority to fix these issues.  Relax, nothing can go wrong with this plan.
I wonder if Bush thinks it shameful.
Bush, the republicans, and the democrats in a bipartisan effort pushed damn near a trillion thru to the banks in the matter of a few weeks.  They ALL think this is great.  Now, if only it were bankers jumping across the fence on our border heading to mexico, then you would see the borders secured in a matter of days.
Well apparently Obama thinks it's "shameful".
cpt.fass1
The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n
+329|7111|NJ
Instead of pumping money into our failed Financial system, we should use that to rebuild our infrastructure.. Wouldn't it be swell to see this country get modernized?
DrunkFace
Germans did 911
+427|7097|Disaster Free Zone

cpt.fass1 wrote:

Instead of pumping money into our failed Financial system, we should use that to rebuild our infrastructure.. Wouldn't it be swell to see this country get modernized?
Like a decent train (mag lev) system?
lowing
Banned
+1,662|7067|USA
Apparently Obama is more ashamed of these payouts than he is of his very own ADMITTED TAX CHEAT treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner severance of near 500,000 dollars.


http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0109/18074.html


a side note, the shameful bonus's will now cause a 1 billion dollar deficit in NY why? Because it is the rich that pay the taxes.


http://www.nypost.com/seven/01282009/ne … 152412.htm


I guess he is not ashamed about illegal aliens benefiting from US citizens tax dollars


http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id … _article=1


I could go on

fuckin socialists
steelie34
pub hero!
+603|6797|the land of bourbon
america... land of the greedy, home of the poor
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lowing
Banned
+1,662|7067|USA

steelie34 wrote:

america... land of the greedy, home of the poor
yeah greed is covered in my sig....if YOU achieve and YOU don't give it away, YOU are greedy.
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|7036|London, England
All I hear is all this talk about these people taking massive bonuses, but absolutely no action whatsoever against these people (comes from out govt too). I doubt he'll actually do anything else apart from what he's just said today

Last edited by Mekstizzle (2009-01-30 08:57:24)

lowing
Banned
+1,662|7067|USA

Mekstizzle wrote:

All I hear is all this talk about these people taking massive bonuses, but absolutely no action whatsoever against these people (comes from out govt too). I doubt he'll actually do anything else apart from what he's just said today
THese bonuses are not illegal, what action should he take? I am sure these bonuses were contractual.
FatherTed
xD
+3,936|6916|so randum

lowing wrote:

Mekstizzle wrote:

All I hear is all this talk about these people taking massive bonuses, but absolutely no action whatsoever against these people (comes from out govt too). I doubt he'll actually do anything else apart from what he's just said today
THese bonuses are not illegal, what action should he take? I am sure these bonuses were contractual.
Just because it's above board doesn't make it right.
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lowing
Banned
+1,662|7067|USA

FatherTed wrote:

lowing wrote:

Mekstizzle wrote:

All I hear is all this talk about these people taking massive bonuses, but absolutely no action whatsoever against these people (comes from out govt too). I doubt he'll actually do anything else apart from what he's just said today
THese bonuses are not illegal, what action should he take? I am sure these bonuses were contractual.
Just because it's above board doesn't make it right.
Funny how no one OBAMA appoints is getting scrutenized for the same damn thing, even on this thread.

besides, what makes it wrong?, the fact that you didn't get any of it?
FatherTed
xD
+3,936|6916|so randum

lowing wrote:

FatherTed wrote:

lowing wrote:


THese bonuses are not illegal, what action should he take? I am sure these bonuses were contractual.
Just because it's above board doesn't make it right.
Funny how no one OBAMA appoints is getting scrutenized for the same damn thing, even on this thread.

besides, what makes it wrong?, the fact that you didn't get any of it?
What makes it wrong?

Hahaha

How about a global economic fuck up, but some dudes on wall street are given 20bil for being shit.

How are they worth a 20bil BONUS
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Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|7036|London, England

lowing wrote:

Mekstizzle wrote:

All I hear is all this talk about these people taking massive bonuses, but absolutely no action whatsoever against these people (comes from out govt too). I doubt he'll actually do anything else apart from what he's just said today
THese bonuses are not illegal, what action should he take? I am sure these bonuses were contractual.
They're not illegal, but honestly, after just being bailed out with shitloads of public/taxpayers money, you'd think they'd be a little more smart. I'm surprised you're defending this people, lowing, I thought you were the person who constantly preached the fact that you should earn money yourself, well these guys aren't giving bonuses with money they have earned, to put it polite

Last edited by Mekstizzle (2009-01-30 09:13:45)

lowing
Banned
+1,662|7067|USA

FatherTed wrote:

lowing wrote:

FatherTed wrote:


Just because it's above board doesn't make it right.
Funny how no one OBAMA appoints is getting scrutenized for the same damn thing, even on this thread.

besides, what makes it wrong?, the fact that you didn't get any of it?
What makes it wrong?

Hahaha

How about a global economic fuck up, but some dudes on wall street are given 20bil for being shit.

How are they worth a 20bil BONUS
I guess ya failed to read what I posted about how much the tax payers get from those bonuses. Oh well. and again, wh oare YOU to decide what a person is worth or earns?
FatherTed
xD
+3,936|6916|so randum

lowing wrote:

FatherTed wrote:

lowing wrote:


Funny how no one OBAMA appoints is getting scrutenized for the same damn thing, even on this thread.

besides, what makes it wrong?, the fact that you didn't get any of it?
What makes it wrong?

Hahaha

How about a global economic fuck up, but some dudes on wall street are given 20bil for being shit.

How are they worth a 20bil BONUS
I guess ya failed to read what I posted about how much the tax payers get from those bonuses. Oh well. and again, wh oare YOU to decide what a person is worth or earns?
If you can honestly defend them getting 20bil in bonuses, i really cbf to debate this with you.
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Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|7036|London, England
Well who's fault is that, that NY will receive $1bn less because the cats can't give themselves massive bonuses? That's part of capitalism, NY will have to realise that things aren't going to be awesome all the time. That's part of the game isn't it.

Doesn't mean that you should then go and give the fat cats lots of tax money via bailout packages etc.., so that they can give themselves massive bonuses, so that they can then pay more tax so that the state generates more revenue. It doesn't work like that, you might aswell just give the state direct funding to offset the loss of taxes rather than using lining the pockets of the cats and use them as middle men for no damn reason
lowing
Banned
+1,662|7067|USA

FatherTed wrote:

lowing wrote:

FatherTed wrote:

What makes it wrong?

Hahaha

How about a global economic fuck up, but some dudes on wall street are given 20bil for being shit.

How are they worth a 20bil BONUS
I guess ya failed to read what I posted about how much the tax payers get from those bonuses. Oh well. and again, wh oare YOU to decide what a person is worth or earns?
If you can honestly defend them getting 20bil in bonuses, i really cbf to debate this with you.
I can defend a free market and a person earning what he has in writting via a contract without any govt. intereference.  Now, are you prepared to defend capping salaries and govt. interefence in private enterprise? All the govt has got to do is not give away any bailout money to them. Instead spend millions on condoms and artists wh osuck at selling hteir works.

you also forgot to comment on the fact that NY will face a deficit now of 1 billion with the absence of those bonuses.

Last edited by lowing (2009-01-30 09:20:37)

Agent_Dung_Bomb
Member
+302|7151|Salt Lake City

lowing wrote:

FatherTed wrote:

lowing wrote:


I guess ya failed to read what I posted about how much the tax payers get from those bonuses. Oh well. and again, wh oare YOU to decide what a person is worth or earns?
If you can honestly defend them getting 20bil in bonuses, i really cbf to debate this with you.
I can defend a free market and a person earning what he has in writting via a contract without any govt. intereference.  Now, are you prepared to defend capping salaries and govt. interefence in private enterprise? All the govt has got to do is not give away any bailout money to them. Instead spend millions on condoms and artists wh osuck at selling hteir works.

you also forgot to comment on the fact that NY will face a deficit now of 1 billion with the absence of those bonuses.
Until you can show proof that those bonuses were required by contract, regardless of the performance of the company, your point is not valid.
cpt.fass1
The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n
+329|7111|NJ
Lowing you're defending bonus's being received from bail out money?

OK I'm sure that they're are contracts that are need to be honor's, but if your company isn't doing to good I'm sure they'll pay-cut you to make up for profits lost.. Also with these bonuses being full filled, I'm sure that they've cut the fat from the company. Why is it that the CEO's have Job Security and guarantee pay?

Yeah we could use Rail systems, Nuclear Power plants(haven't built a new one since the 70's and just generally fix up our country..

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