Limiting the populations intelligence, the first step in becoming a true dictator. Now how to top killing a 12 year old girl because she has a calculator, and anyone who "looks" smart. How dare they do anything but what you tell them.Beduin wrote:
"I" would as a ruler ban ANYTHING that :
1. Can be a risk to national security.
2. Damage the nations international relationships (politically and economically).
And "I" will ban at ANY cost.fixed...lolVaregg wrote:
So in those cases banning ANYTHING is a definate big fat Y E S
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Should governments be allowed to ban controversial books?
| Yes. | 9% | 9% - 7 | ||||
| No. | 90% | 90% - 64 | ||||
| I don't read books. | 0% | 0% - 0 | ||||
| Total: 71 | ||||||
Is banning the same as restricting access to?
I'm for restricting access. Example: a child has the right to read porn.
I'm for restricting access. Example: a child has the right to read porn.
Ey?FatherTed wrote:
i remember getting access to some nazi reading stuff when i was doing coursework on it in 6th form. fucking hard.AussieReaper wrote:
Since 2002.Roger Lesboules wrote:
Since when did they started this policy? Last time i looked on eBay for a copy of Mein Kampf there was plenty of em. Also, banning books is just plain stupid!
And Mein Kampf isn't banned from ebay because it can be considered for research and study purposes. You could probably pick up a copy from a library without trying hard to find one.
I got a copy out from my local library at the start of the year. Shit book actually. Not just the content, which comes of as a rather purile tragedy, but also the grammar, pacing and general writing style.
The foreword said all this wasn't a product of the translation to English, but Hitler's own flaws when working with written language.
Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.
?andy12 wrote:
Limiting the populations intelligence, the first step in becoming a true dictator. Now how to top killing a 12 year old girl because she has a calculator, and anyone who "looks" smart. How dare they do anything but what you tell them.Beduin wrote:
"I" would as a ruler ban ANYTHING that :
1. Can be a risk to national security.
2. Damage the nations international relationships (politically and economically).
And "I" will ban at ANY cost.fixed...lolVaregg wrote:
So in those cases banning ANYTHING is a definate big fat Y E S
Did that has anything to do with my post, and if it did, can you cut it up for me, cause I am a bit slow, exuse me
الشعب يريد اسقاط النظام
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I said banning books and resources is what dictators do to keep their population obedient and compliant. This is shortly before the next warlord takes over and becomes the new dictator and puts the old governments heads on pikes.Beduin wrote:
?andy12 wrote:
Limiting the populations intelligence, the first step in becoming a true dictator. Now how to top killing a 12 year old girl because she has a calculator, and anyone who "looks" smart. How dare they do anything but what you tell them.Beduin wrote:
"I" would as a ruler ban ANYTHING that :
1. Can be a risk to national security.
2. Damage the nations international relationships (politically and economically).
And "I" will ban at ANY cost.
fixed...lol
Did that has anything to do with my post, and if it did, can you cut it up for me, cause I am a bit slow, exuse me
Population can do what ever they want, hell they can even vote for another one next term lol . But as long as "I"am in charge and I have the responsibilty, I will ban for:andy12 wrote:
I said banning books and resources is what dictators do to keep their population obedient and compliant. This is shortly before the next warlord takes over and becomes the new dictator and puts the old governments heads on pikes.
I will make sure you can sue me thougBeduin wrote:
1. risk to national security.
2. Damaging the nations international relationships (politically and economically).
So how am I a dictator as a ruler?
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Because passing off books as "Risks to national security" and suggesting books can damage "international relationships" is a bone excuse for keeping your population easy to manage and reduce the risk of a coup. You can feed them what information you want as it benefits you. Then ban any books that inspire free thinking under a bone "National security" law...Beduin wrote:
Population can do what ever they want, hell they can even vote for another one next term lol . But as long as "I"am in charge and I have the responsibilty, I will ban for:andy12 wrote:
I said banning books and resources is what dictators do to keep their population obedient and compliant. This is shortly before the next warlord takes over and becomes the new dictator and puts the old governments heads on pikes.I will make sure you can sue me thougBeduin wrote:
1. risk to national security.
2. Damaging the nations international relationships (politically and economically).
So how am I a dictator as a ruler?
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If it was a corrupt government, yes. But that was not the case I presented.andy12 wrote:
Because passing off books as "Risks to national security" and suggesting books can damage "international relationships" is a bone excuse for..
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yes thank you i know its not the same. but who is to judge what is restricted? and who it is restricted to?FEOS wrote:
That's not the same thing as not banning a book.usmarine wrote:
really? so who is to judge what? should there be a porn section in the sunday paper? how about a KKK book in the school library?Hakei wrote:
No. People should be allowed to read what they want.
Those things are available to those who want to read them. If they were banned, they wouldn't be available at all, would be illegal to possess, etc.
My take is that nothing should be banned by the government, but specific businesses/organizations also have the right to limit what they offer to the general public based on their own published guidelines.
Should governments be allowed to ban controversial books?
No, absolutely not and this question is ridiculous. Obviously a book on how to make pipe bombs or a porno mag has no place in a elementary library but banning books....seriously? You really want our Govt. to decide what we can and can not read? not me no thanks
No, absolutely not and this question is ridiculous. Obviously a book on how to make pipe bombs or a porno mag has no place in a elementary library but banning books....seriously? You really want our Govt. to decide what we can and can not read? not me no thanks
Well books aren't banned in Free countries and it's the free countries that do the best economically and politically. Ironic really, that places where you can read what you want are less at risk to coups and economic failure.Beduin wrote:
If it was a corrupt government, yes. But that was not the case I presented.andy12 wrote:
Because passing off books as "Risks to national security" and suggesting books can damage "international relationships" is a bone excuse for..
When you say "Free", you mean western countries?andy12 wrote:
Well books aren't banned in Free countries and it's the free countries that do the best economically and politically. Ironic really, that places where you can read what you want are less at risk to coups and economic failure.Beduin wrote:
If it was a corrupt government, yes. But that was not the case I presented.andy12 wrote:
Because passing off books as "Risks to national security" and suggesting books can damage "international relationships" is a bone excuse for..
الشعب يريد اسقاط النظام
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No I mean free countries. Limiting information to the population only serves the people in charge, I hope you understand that someday.Beduin wrote:
When you say "Free", you mean western countries?andy12 wrote:
Well books aren't banned in Free countries and it's the free countries that do the best economically and politically. Ironic really, that places where you can read what you want are less at risk to coups and economic failure.Beduin wrote:
If it was a corrupt government, yes. But that was not the case I presented.
What do you mean about free countries?andy12 wrote:
No I mean free countries. Limiting information to the population only serves the people in charge, I hope you understand that someday.Beduin wrote:
When you say "Free", you mean western countries?andy12 wrote:
Well books aren't banned in Free countries and it's the free countries that do the best economically and politically. Ironic really, that places where you can read what you want are less at risk to coups and economic failure.
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I wasn't supporting it, just pointing it out, since it is still very much an issue in parts of the United States. I'm vehemently against it.DrPeePeeFace wrote:
Should governments be allowed to ban controversial books?
No, absolutely not and this question is ridiculous. Obviously a book on how to make pipe bombs or a porno mag has no place in a elementary library but banning books....seriously? You really want our Govt. to decide what we can and can not read? not me no thanks
Fix'd.usmarine wrote:
it should be in the cartoon section and re-named "I was rejected by a Jewish art school so I convinced most of germany we have to kill all Jews because I have a small penis That doesn't even work properly"AussieReaper wrote:
And Mein Kampf isn't banned from ebay because it can be considered for research and study purposes.
jsnipy wrote:
Hakei wrote:
No. People should be allowed to read what they want.
Well, it's good to see that the fascist contingent of BF2S is much smaller than the one that understands freedom.
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I'm more impressed that people here read books.Turquoise wrote:
Well, it's good to see that the fascist contingent of BF2S is much smaller than the one that understands freedom.
Speak for yourself. I'm stuck on birthday cards, and only if they have money in them.DoctaStrangelove wrote:
I'm more impressed that people here read books.Turquoise wrote:
Well, it's good to see that the fascist contingent of BF2S is much smaller than the one that understands freedom.
lewlDoctaStrangelove wrote:
Fix'd.usmarine wrote:
it should be in the cartoon section and re-named "I was rejected by a Jewish art school so I convinced most of germany we have to kill all Jews because I have a small penis That doesn't even work properly"AussieReaper wrote:
And Mein Kampf isn't banned from ebay because it can be considered for research and study purposes.
The businesses/organizations that offer the material.usmarine wrote:
yes thank you i know its not the same. but who is to judge what is restricted? and who it is restricted to?FEOS wrote:
That's not the same thing as not banning a book.usmarine wrote:
really? so who is to judge what? should there be a porn section in the sunday paper? how about a KKK book in the school library?
Those things are available to those who want to read them. If they were banned, they wouldn't be available at all, would be illegal to possess, etc.
My take is that nothing should be banned by the government, but specific businesses/organizations also have the right to limit what they offer to the general public based on their own published guidelines.
And the parents, of course.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiightFEOS wrote:
The businesses/organizations that offer the material.
you prolly trust the tobacco companies not to market towards kids also without any govt intervention.
You missed the part about the parents.usmarine wrote:
riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiightFEOS wrote:
The businesses/organizations that offer the material.
you prolly trust the tobacco companies not to market towards kids also without any govt intervention.
Plus, you have to be 18 to purchase or view porn. Just like t'baccy.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
You mean like in much of the British tabloid press?usmarine wrote:
really? so who is to judge what? should there be a porn section in the sunday paper?Hakei wrote:
No. People should be allowed to read what they want.
Which is available for purchase by children of any age...
Not a big deal, imo.
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