Vilham
Say wat!?
+580|7201|UK

Uzique wrote:

JoshP wrote:

Vilham wrote:


meh, less than 20% of the ppl who do CS at notts are nerdy, rather surprisingly most are football/rudeboy type ppl. Its the least nerdy science ive seen people doing. Lots of ppl doing business related degrees do modules in it too. Although there are certainly very few girls who do it, its never stopped me from getting good looking girls. Apparently Uzique uses his subject to chat up girls or something lulz.

To the OP, there are shit load of graduate opportunities, however the degree personally is boring as fuck.
wait, you're at nottingham uni? or nottingham trent

Spoiler (highlight to read):
lulz either way
Don't say that, he will actually murder you. Nottingham is the 21st century Harvard-Yale to Vilham.
lol, no it most certainly isnt, however it isnt shit like you claim. But then I forgot in Uzique land only Oxford and Cambridge exist, o and those other unis you named that are actually all ranked lower than Nottingham except in the renowned Uzique uni table.
JoshP
Banned
+176|6124|Notts, UK

Vilham wrote:

Uzique wrote:

JoshP wrote:


wait, you're at nottingham uni? or nottingham trent

Spoiler (highlight to read):
lulz either way
Don't say that, he will actually murder you. Nottingham is the 21st century Harvard-Yale to Vilham.
lol, no it most certainly isnt, however it isnt shit like you claim. But then I forgot in Uzique land only Oxford and Cambridge exist, o and those other unis you named that are actually all ranked lower than Nottingham except in the renowned Uzique uni table.
wat

still, enjoy getting shot (Y)
trippy982
Member
+34|6833
I'm in IT, and a comp sci graduate.  Sucks donkey balls.  IT, especially programming is intense labor of the mind.  I find it the mental equivalent of steel mill workers.  The pay is high, but don't forget that you work longer hours than most people so by the hours, you're not really pulling that much ahead.  Also, you'll need to keep relevant at all times.  Just like an actual computer, you're skills become obsolete in several years also.  Your mind is sharp while you're young, but can you compete with the college grad compsci students 20-30 years from now?  Also most IT jobs are going to India and western Europe anyways.  But if you love programming and IT go for it.

Also, don't do systems such as networking or maintaining servers.  You'll be oncall and work overnight all the time.  Also if server goes down 2:30AM on a weekend or on Christmas eve, you'll have to go onsite and attend them.  You'll probably be married to your blackberry.
Little BaBy JESUS
m8
+394|6584|'straya
Anyone got any opinions (or preferably knowledge) of what a career in the Defence force would be like with a Computer science degree?
going into something like the DSTO (defence science and technology organisation) sounds like it could be cool.

Also employment during a recession would not be a problem as i would be in the defence force for a number of years and on an officers wage I would hopefully have a reasonable amount of money before joining the civilian world
jsnipy
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+3,277|6957|...

There is nothing wrong with education, in my opinion it will help you get that first job a lot easier, especially if that job is in the government sector. But it is not vital to be successful in IT (assuming that path), your love for what you do, your will and work ethic will ultimately determine that.


Hermeneutics  > Formalism imo

Last edited by jsnipy (2009-03-06 04:14:40)

Rod Foxx
Warblgarbl
+78|6418|Perth, Australia
I just graduated with a CS degree in Perth. Getting a job is fucking hard. A CS degree on it's own seems to be worth less then the paper it's printed on. But i found the actual course work to be fascinating for the most part. I personally happen to love programming and finding the simplest solution to complex problems but it that isn't something you'd like then steer clear of CS. Although their description of the course work sounds almost identical to what i did. Maybe with slightly more emphasis on software engineering.

Quite a few people have told me to join the Defence Force but i have moral oppostions to that sort of thing. At the moment i'm trying to get a grad position for 2010 and a shit job to fill the time until then. Failing that i'll go back to uni and get an engineering degree. Australia can't seem to get enough engineers.
Vilham
Say wat!?
+580|7201|UK
move to the UK Rod, CS is very valuable here.
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|7016|SE London

If you like programming CS is the way to go. Easy to find a fairly well paid coding job. I'm not so keen on programming in any real depth, the odd script here and there to get jobs done - but not proper programs. Jobs outside the world of programming look more for experience than anything else, unless you happen to get on a graduate scheme. Often it is a case of get a badly paid job for a few years, get your employer to put you through a few certification courses and then get the good jobs with an armful of certifications and a few years experience under your belt.
mikkel
Member
+383|7036

trippy982 wrote:

Also, don't do systems such as networking or maintaining servers.  You'll be oncall and work overnight all the time.  Also if server goes down 2:30AM on a weekend or on Christmas eve, you'll have to go onsite and attend them.  You'll probably be married to your blackberry.
While some disciplines pertaining to networking do have their share of call time and night work, I find network engineering to be one of the more liberating occupations, typically offering much more autonomy than most software engineering positions. Sure, I have maintenance windows between 1AM and 5AM every Thursday morning, and sometimes I do show up for work at 9AM on the same day. I'm also on call one or two weeks every month. Still, when something goes down, it's "my" network, and depending on the dedication given to maintaining it, and my insight into its operation, it can be a joy to work on. Even at 3AM on a Saturday night.

You've gotta love what you do.
Rod Foxx
Warblgarbl
+78|6418|Perth, Australia

Vilham wrote:

move to the UK Rod, CS is very valuable here.
Could do that, all my extended family is there. But i'd prefer to get a job where i live now, too socially retarded to make a move that large.
Flecco
iPod is broken.
+1,048|7100|NT, like Mick Dundee

Rod Foxx wrote:

I just graduated with a CS degree in Perth. Getting a job is fucking hard. A CS degree on it's own seems to be worth less then the paper it's printed on. But i found the actual course work to be fascinating for the most part. I personally happen to love programming and finding the simplest solution to complex problems but it that isn't something you'd like then steer clear of CS. Although their description of the course work sounds almost identical to what i did. Maybe with slightly more emphasis on software engineering.

Quite a few people have told me to join the Defence Force but i have moral oppostions to that sort of thing. At the moment i'm trying to get a grad position for 2010 and a shit job to fill the time until then. Failing that i'll go back to uni and get an engineering degree. Australia can't seem to get enough engineers.
I hardly think that you'd be used in a combat role if you joined with a degree in CS.
Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.
Pochsy
Artifice of Eternity
+702|5978|Toronto

Flecco wrote:

Rod Foxx wrote:

I just graduated with a CS degree in Perth. Getting a job is fucking hard. A CS degree on it's own seems to be worth less then the paper it's printed on. But i found the actual course work to be fascinating for the most part. I personally happen to love programming and finding the simplest solution to complex problems but it that isn't something you'd like then steer clear of CS. Although their description of the course work sounds almost identical to what i did. Maybe with slightly more emphasis on software engineering.

Quite a few people have told me to join the Defence Force but i have moral oppostions to that sort of thing. At the moment i'm trying to get a grad position for 2010 and a shit job to fill the time until then. Failing that i'll go back to uni and get an engineering degree. Australia can't seem to get enough engineers.
I hardly think that you'd be used in a combat role if you joined with a degree in CS.
He may mean the moral dilemma arises from being a contributor in some fashion to the death of others.

Although if you really want to go down that line you already do contribute. Stop paying taxes.
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