Three words that should never be considered in the same sentence. Good/Great & Crisis.
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As they should be.. but again, shouldn't the enablers have their feet put to the fire also. Chances of that happening __.Vax wrote:
The AIG execs are going to get grilled, too many people noticed this and are mad.
But yup, I agree it was their own fault for not putting oversight on a fricken BAILOUT ...
*sigh
Same wayKarbin wrote:
They've been doing that to the auto industry as well (breaking legal contracts) and MOST are sitting on the side lines cheering. So how dose AIG get a pass?Stingray24 wrote:
Why isn't anyone howling at the government? They didn't place any meaningful oversight into the "bailout". These are legal contracts that must be honored. As soon as the government is able to alter legal contracts of private companies as they see fit the end is nigh.
And how could a conservative President have done it any differently ... with Bush you would still have a bailout, with Bush you would still have greedy fuckers on their high horses not offering a shred of conscience for anyone but themselves ...[TUF]Catbox wrote:
Obama... 1 and done... guaranteed... He is not ready for the big leagues... It's more apparent everyday...
and i am not just talking about the economy... I only hope that the conservatives get their act together for 2010 and 2012?
I would prefer Hillary at this point... and that is saying a lot...
He could do just that ... isn't AIG 80% owned by the government? ... I believe I breifly overheard that on the news yesterday, not entirely sure thoughKmarion wrote:
"Obama berates AIG and vows to try to block bonuses"
This brings up am interesting question. How would he do that? An executive order? .. (Don't think so)
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I'm sorry Braddock, I kinda thought I made myself perfectly clear as to how I felt about bailouts. As for the bonus's, IF our govt. did not hand out bailouts, these bonus's would not be paid by the tax payers. I am not sure if I could be any clearer.Braddock wrote:
I want to see lowing's rage and bile on this issue... these guys could technically be described as freeloaders now seeing as their partying on tax payers money and yet they continue to shower themselves in bonuses while the economic world burns to the ground. I want to see lowing chastize some Capitalists for a change!
I've also read recently that AIG have spent bail-out money on a PR firm to make themselves look better in the public eye and on lobbyists to oppose amendments to the rules regarding union membership... these guys really are taking the piss at this stage.
Varegg wrote:
He could do just that ... isn't AIG 80% owned by the government? ... I believe I breifly overheard that on the news yesterday, not entirely sure thoughKmarion wrote:
"Obama berates AIG and vows to try to block bonuses"
This brings up am interesting question. How would he do that? An executive order? .. (Don't think so)
"Congress looking at huge taxes on AIG bonuses" Thar ya go.. I knew it was out of his power .Kmarion wrote:
Even as a GOC I don't think it's up to one man making the call. It most certainly is not the role of the executive branch. The executive branch does not control the money or financial decisions. I can't see how the Supreme Court (since it would undoubtedly be challenged) could rule that as constitutional. I'm sure when he said he would work to block it he meant with his congressional buddies.
Of course we were told in September that the government had "seized control" of AIG.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1221652 … lenews_wsj
are you that shallow that you believe Obama is doing a good job...lol?Varegg wrote:
And how could a conservative President have done it any differently ... with Bush you would still have a bailout, with Bush you would still have greedy fuckers on their high horses not offering a shred of conscience for anyone but themselves ...[TUF]Catbox wrote:
Obama... 1 and done... guaranteed... He is not ready for the big leagues... It's more apparent everyday...
and i am not just talking about the economy... I only hope that the conservatives get their act together for 2010 and 2012?
I would prefer Hillary at this point... and that is saying a lot...
Or you really that shallow that you think anything about this crisis would have been different with a republican in office?
Get a grip ffs ...He could do just that ... isn't AIG 80% owned by the government? ... I believe I breifly overheard that on the news yesterday, not entirely sure thoughKmarion wrote:
"Obama berates AIG and vows to try to block bonuses"
This brings up am interesting question. How would he do that? An executive order? .. (Don't think so)
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We should just nationalize those fuckers. The government already owns like 80% of their stock anyway.Kmarion wrote:
Repubs and Dems both pushed this thing through. This is actually the sixth batch of money that they have received. Not bad for being the worst corporate failure in the history of the United States.
They just said that AIG has put armed guards outside of their offices. That's a very smart move. Probably the only one they've made theses last couple of years.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co … 61_pf.html
you say that as if you would not do it if it were offered to you.Bascally so would every other person in this thread bitching about what they ain't got, and who got what you want.Freke1 wrote:
I wanna be a CEO when I grow up harharhar
Bankruptcy... like we normally do. I guarantee you a bankruptcy judge would have halted the bonuses. They have the power to wipe away those commitments.Turquoise wrote:
We should just nationalize those fuckers. The government already owns like 80% of their stock anyway.Kmarion wrote:
Repubs and Dems both pushed this thing through. This is actually the sixth batch of money that they have received. Not bad for being the worst corporate failure in the history of the United States.
They just said that AIG has put armed guards outside of their offices. That's a very smart move. Probably the only one they've made theses last couple of years.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co … 61_pf.html
Kmarion wrote:
A) To stupid to know beforehand that they were paying bonus's to incompetent fuckups.
B) They just don't care about the fake money our children will have to answer for.
C) Are deliberately trying to collapse the economy in order to seize control of major industries.
D) All of the above.
Ew I'm going to feel dirty for this but; I have to agree with Lowing.lowing wrote:
you say that as if you would not do it if it were offered to you.Bascally so would every other person in this thread bitching about what they ain't got, and who got what you want.Freke1 wrote:
I wanna be a CEO when I grow up harharhar
lol, sorry you were forced to agree.Macbeth wrote:
Ew I'm going to feel dirty for this but; I have to agree with Lowing.lowing wrote:
you say that as if you would not do it if it were offered to you.Bascally so would every other person in this thread bitching about what they ain't got, and who got what you want.Freke1 wrote:
I wanna be a CEO when I grow up harharhar
If you were offered it you sure as hell would take it.
To be honest... I wouldn't mind C at this point.Kmarion wrote:
Bankruptcy... like we normally do. I guarantee you a bankruptcy judge would have halted the bonuses. They have the power to wipe away those commitments.Turquoise wrote:
We should just nationalize those fuckers. The government already owns like 80% of their stock anyway.Kmarion wrote:
Repubs and Dems both pushed this thing through. This is actually the sixth batch of money that they have received. Not bad for being the worst corporate failure in the history of the United States.
They just said that AIG has put armed guards outside of their offices. That's a very smart move. Probably the only one they've made theses last couple of years.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co … 61_pf.html
So I'm going to put you down for "C".Kmarion wrote:
A) To stupid to know beforehand that they were paying bonus's to incompetent fuckups.
B) They just don't care about the fake money our children will have to answer for.
C) Are deliberately trying to collapse the economy in order to seize control of major industries.
D) All of the above.
If it was to replace one of the twits in Detroit, I'd take it for what I had last year.lowing wrote:
lol, sorry you were forced to agree.Macbeth wrote:
Ew I'm going to feel dirty for this but; I have to agree with Lowing.lowing wrote:
you say that as if you would not do it if it were offered to you.Bascally so would every other person in this thread bitching about what they ain't got, and who got what you want.
If you were offered it you sure as hell would take it.
..and I thought you were a Ron Paul fan.Turquoise wrote:
To be honest... I wouldn't mind C at this point.Kmarion wrote:
Bankruptcy... like we normally do. I guarantee you a bankruptcy judge would have halted the bonuses. They have the power to wipe away those commitments.Turquoise wrote:
We should just nationalize those fuckers. The government already owns like 80% of their stock anyway.
So I'm going to put you down for "C".Kmarion wrote:
A) To stupid to know beforehand that they were paying bonus's to incompetent fuckups.
B) They just don't care about the fake money our children will have to answer for.
C) Are deliberately trying to collapse the economy in order to seize control of major industries.
D) All of the above.