Mitch
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whats the difference between a band 'covering' a song, and a band stealing lyrics from another band?

do you get what im asking?
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bugz
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One has permission from the original creator, while the other does not.

Cover songs often fall under a mechanical license whereby the cover artist pays a standard royalty to the original artist, and is safe under copyright law even if they do not have any permission from the original artist.
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Last edited by ebug9 (2009-03-15 08:13:14)

Scorpion0x17
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ebug9 wrote:One has permission from the original creator, while the other does not.What about cover versions that don't have permission when they're created, but are given permission later?

Answered in your edit.

Last edited by Scorpion0x17 (2009-03-15 08:14:03)

Mitch
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ebug9 wrote:

One has permission from the original creator, while the other does not.

Cover songs often fall under a mechanical license whereby the cover artist pays a standard royalty to the original artist, and is safe under copyright law even if they do not have any permission from the original artist.
Wiki
So in a sense anyone on youtube who is amatuerly covering a song should be paying royalties?
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Mitch wrote:

ebug9 wrote:

One has permission from the original creator, while the other does not.

Cover songs often fall under a mechanical license whereby the cover artist pays a standard royalty to the original artist, and is safe under copyright law even if they do not have any permission from the original artist.
Wiki
So in a sense anyone on youtube who is amatuerly covering a song should be paying royalties?
Yes.

Or rather, whilst they don't, they risk prosecution under copyright law.
Surgeons
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No because they aren't making money off it.
bugz
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Mitch wrote:

ebug9 wrote:

One has permission from the original creator, while the other does not.

Cover songs often fall under a mechanical license whereby the cover artist pays a standard royalty to the original artist, and is safe under copyright law even if they do not have any permission from the original artist.
Wiki
So in a sense anyone on youtube who is amatuerly covering a song should be paying royalties?
If they start making profits from it, I imagine they should.
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The Sheriff wrote:

No because they aren't making money off it.
It's still a breach of copyright law whether you make money from it or not.

(but, it's less a serious breach than if you were making money from it)

Last edited by Scorpion0x17 (2009-03-15 08:18:27)

ATG
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The Sheriff wrote:

No because they aren't making money off it.
^^ this.


No charge, no problema.

Eateries however cannot so much as have a radio playing, that's why they have a subscription service. Cover bands playing in bars need to be part of ascap ( I think that's it ) and the establishment is required to pay a royalty to ascap.

Largely unenforced.
Scorpion0x17
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ATG wrote:

The Sheriff wrote:

No because they aren't making money off it.
^^ this.


No charge, no problema.
I suspect you know more about this than I, 'G, but I believe that's not correct.

The way I understand it, you're not at all likely to get prosecuted if you're not making money from it, but that's not the same as saying it's not a breach of copyright.
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