My ATi 4850 is performing shitter than my 8800GT

2009-03-26 08:00:54

#1

rammunition: Fully Loaded; +143|6125

ok, before i begin here are my system specs

Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS3 iP35 mobo
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600
4GB OCZ Platinum DDR2 800MHz
Gainward 4850 512MB DDR3
500GB samsung spinpoint HDD + Maxtor maxline II 250GB HDD
Hp dvd-rw drive
620W coolermaster Realpower modular PSU
Vista Home Premium 64 bit/windows 7 beta/ubuntu 8.10
HP vs17e monitor @ 1280x1024

ok, i had before my 4850 a Zotac 8800GT 512mb, it was a beast of a card. i traded it with the gainward 4850. Seems a fair deal.

I have been playing games like counterstrike and have been getting lags with everything on max. Before i would get over 100FPS with everything maxed, now its only about 80 with lag. Also on Crysis, on the 8800GT i would get 25FPS on everything V.H but with the 4850 its 22 and lower in some cases. GTA4 i would get 30FPS on high settings now its only 22 with the 4850.

why is the 4850 performing shitter than my previous 8800GT???

i doubt its a driver issue as i removed them properly and installed the latest ati drivers. i also get no artefacts in game

here is a screen shot

https://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm101/Rammunition1/ati4850.jpg

NOTE: the person i got it from said he flashed the card with the asus bios to overclock more easily.

Last edited by rammunition (2009-03-26 08:05:32)

2009-03-26 08:59:32

#2

phishman420: Banned; +821|5944

because he fucked the card up, knew it, and pawned it off on you?

2009-03-26 09:03:39

#3

FatherTed: xD; +3,936|6763|so randum

phishman420 wrote:
because he fucked the card up, knew it, and pawned it off on you?

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2009-03-26 09:52:07

#4

Agent_Dung_Bomb: Member; +302|6999|Salt Lake City

I would agree that they BIOS flash may have hosed the card. However, it doesn't help that you are playing with such a low resolution. A card of that power isn't really going to start flexing it muscle until at least 1600x1200...with a few noted game exceptions.

2009-03-26 11:25:46

#5

Finray: Hup! Dos, Tres, Cuatro; +2,629|6051|Catherine Black

Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:
I would agree that they BIOS flash may have hosed the card. However, it doesn't help that you are playing with such a low resolution. A card of that power isn't really going to start flexing it muscle until at least 1600x1200...with a few noted game exceptions.

Lol? It's going to perform better at lower resolutions than at higher ones.

Unless you meant it will only outperform the 8800GT at higher resolutions.

2009-03-26 11:30:25

#6

bugz: Fission Mailed; +3,311|6575

Are your video card drivers up to date?

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2009-03-26 11:32:13

#7

FatherTed: xD; +3,936|6763|so randum

did you never stop and think why someone was happy to trade a 4850 for a 8800?

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2009-03-26 11:32:42

#8

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6460|Winland

Finray wrote:
Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:
I would agree that they BIOS flash may have hosed the card. However, it doesn't help that you are playing with such a low resolution. A card of that power isn't really going to start flexing it muscle until at least 1600x1200...with a few noted game exceptions.
Lol? It's going to perform better at lower resolutions than at higher ones.

Unless you meant it will only outperform the 8800GT at higher resolutions.

The difference between cards is slimmer at lower resolutions, and some more powerful cards might actually perform slightly worse than their weaker counterparts, d. Not this much, though.

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

2009-03-26 11:56:35

#9

legionair: back to i-life; +336|6886|EU

FatherTed wrote:
did you never stop and think why someone was happy to trade a 4850 for a 8800?

lol, thats a question!

2009-03-26 12:07:35

#10

CrazeD: Member; +368|6936|Maine

Finray wrote:
Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:
I would agree that they BIOS flash may have hosed the card. However, it doesn't help that you are playing with such a low resolution. A card of that power isn't really going to start flexing it muscle until at least 1600x1200...with a few noted game exceptions.
Lol? It's going to perform better at lower resolutions than at higher ones.

Not necessarily. The CPU is used more at lower resolutions. At like 1024x768, the CPU is going to be used a lot and will bottleneck the video card. Same for 1280x1024. You see this until at least 1600x1200/1680x1050 or higher.

2009-03-26 13:15:21

#11

rammunition: Fully Loaded; +143|6125

phishman420 wrote:
because he fucked the card up, knew it, and pawned it off on you?

i doubt it, i see no artifacts in game. is there a way of testing if a card has any issues???

ebug9 wrote:
Are your video card drivers up to date?

yes!

FatherTed wrote:
did you never stop and think why someone was happy to trade a 4850 for a 8800?

it was a 8800GT plus £10, both 8800GT and 4850 were boxed, i then got a PSP off him for a smaller price at £50 with box/case/6 umd's before of the extra tenner

2009-03-26 13:16:37

#12

rammunition: Fully Loaded; +143|6125

also, if i do a 3dmark 06 benchmark, what should my score be at-ish???

2009-03-26 14:50:11

#13

Brasso: member; +1,549|6893

I wouldn't bother with 3DM06. Raise that resolution if possible (borrow a monitor that's at least 1680x1050, i would look for even higher), and do some more testing. Catalyst 9.3 is the latest driver btw. But they don't change anything over 9.2 except Lost Planet: Colonies or some shit like that.

Last edited by haffeysucks (2009-03-26 14:50:34)

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2009-03-26 15:21:30

#14

CrazeD: Member; +368|6936|Maine

rammunition wrote:
also, if i do a 3dmark 06 benchmark, what should my score be at-ish???

If your CPU is at stock speeds, I'd say probably 12-15K. Just a guess.

2009-03-26 23:45:28

#15

Little BaBy JESUS: m8; +394|6412|'straya

CrazeD wrote:
rammunition wrote:
also, if i do a 3dmark 06 benchmark, what should my score be at-ish???
If your CPU is at stock speeds, I'd say probably 12-15K. Just a guess.

closer to 12 then 15 i'd say

2009-03-27 03:25:11

#16

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Little BaBy JESUS wrote:
CrazeD wrote:
rammunition wrote:
also, if i do a 3dmark 06 benchmark, what should my score be at-ish???
If your CPU is at stock speeds, I'd say probably 12-15K. Just a guess.
closer to 12 then 15 i'd say

Closer to 15k than 12k I'd say.

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2009-03-27 03:30:21

#17

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DeathUnlimited wrote:
Little BaBy JESUS wrote:
CrazeD wrote:

If your CPU is at stock speeds, I'd say probably 12-15K. Just a guess.
closer to 12 then 15 i'd say
Closer to 15k than 12k I'd say.

closer to 13500 i'd say

2009-03-27 04:16:35

#18

Richard2000: Banned; +39|6808|England

rammunition wrote:
ok, before i begin here are my system specs

Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS3 iP35 mobo
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600
4GB OCZ Platinum DDR2 800MHz
Gainward 4850 512MB DDR3
500GB samsung spinpoint HDD + Maxtor maxline II 250GB HDD
Hp dvd-rw drive
620W coolermaster Realpower modular PSU
Vista Home Premium 64 bit/windows 7 beta/ubuntu 8.10
HP vs17e monitor @ 1280x1024

ok, i had before my 4850 a Zotac 8800GT 512mb, it was a beast of a card. i traded it with the gainward 4850. Seems a fair deal.

I have been playing games like counterstrike and have been getting lags with everything on max. Before i would get over 100FPS with everything maxed, now its only about 80 with lag. Also on Crysis, on the 8800GT i would get 25FPS on everything V.H but with the 4850 its 22 and lower in some cases. GTA4 i would get 30FPS on high settings now its only 22 with the 4850.

why is the 4850 performing shitter than my previous 8800GT???

i doubt its a driver issue as i removed them properly and installed the latest ati drivers. i also get no artefacts in game

here is a screen shot

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm10 … ti4850.jpg

NOTE: the person i got it from said he flashed the card with the asus bios to overclock more easily.

lol u should have got a better nvidia card than buy ATI S H I T

2009-03-27 04:17:51

#19

Little BaBy JESUS: m8; +394|6412|'straya

Richard2000 wrote:
rammunition wrote:
ok, before i begin here are my system specs

Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS3 iP35 mobo
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600
4GB OCZ Platinum DDR2 800MHz
Gainward 4850 512MB DDR3
500GB samsung spinpoint HDD + Maxtor maxline II 250GB HDD
Hp dvd-rw drive
620W coolermaster Realpower modular PSU
Vista Home Premium 64 bit/windows 7 beta/ubuntu 8.10
HP vs17e monitor @ 1280x1024

ok, i had before my 4850 a Zotac 8800GT 512mb, it was a beast of a card. i traded it with the gainward 4850. Seems a fair deal.

I have been playing games like counterstrike and have been getting lags with everything on max. Before i would get over 100FPS with everything maxed, now its only about 80 with lag. Also on Crysis, on the 8800GT i would get 25FPS on everything V.H but with the 4850 its 22 and lower in some cases. GTA4 i would get 30FPS on high settings now its only 22 with the 4850.

why is the 4850 performing shitter than my previous 8800GT???

i doubt its a driver issue as i removed them properly and installed the latest ati drivers. i also get no artefacts in game

here is a screen shot

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm10 … ti4850.jpg

NOTE: the person i got it from said he flashed the card with the asus bios to overclock more easily.
lol u should have got a better nvidia card than buy ATI S H I T

lol epic fanboi is epic

2009-03-27 09:38:06

#20

DUnlimited: got any popo lolo intersting?; +1,160|6726|cuntshitlake

Richard2000 wrote:
lol u should have got a better nvidia card than buy ATI S H I T

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Last edited by DeathUnlimited (2009-03-27 09:38:56)

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2009-03-27 10:27:10

#21

rammunition: Fully Loaded; +143|6125

lol, im going to run a 3D mark06 benchmark soon and will post the results.

also, are there anyways, apps,tips to test if a card has issues???

2009-03-27 10:34:16

#22

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6460|Winland

Richard2000 wrote:
rammunition wrote:
ok, before i begin here are my system specs

Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS3 iP35 mobo
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600
4GB OCZ Platinum DDR2 800MHz
Gainward 4850 512MB DDR3
500GB samsung spinpoint HDD + Maxtor maxline II 250GB HDD
Hp dvd-rw drive
620W coolermaster Realpower modular PSU
Vista Home Premium 64 bit/windows 7 beta/ubuntu 8.10
HP vs17e monitor @ 1280x1024

ok, i had before my 4850 a Zotac 8800GT 512mb, it was a beast of a card. i traded it with the gainward 4850. Seems a fair deal.

I have been playing games like counterstrike and have been getting lags with everything on max. Before i would get over 100FPS with everything maxed, now its only about 80 with lag. Also on Crysis, on the 8800GT i would get 25FPS on everything V.H but with the 4850 its 22 and lower in some cases. GTA4 i would get 30FPS on high settings now its only 22 with the 4850.

why is the 4850 performing shitter than my previous 8800GT???

i doubt its a driver issue as i removed them properly and installed the latest ati drivers. i also get no artefacts in game

here is a screen shot

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm10 … ti4850.jpg

NOTE: the person i got it from said he flashed the card with the asus bios to overclock more easily.
lol u should have got a better nvidia card than buy ATI S H I T

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And rammuntion: ATITool has a nice artifact scanning utility. FurMark is good for stability testing. 3DMark06 is a good measure of performance.

Last edited by Freezer7Pro (2009-03-27 10:36:44)

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

2009-03-27 10:46:30

#23

CC-Marley: Member; +407|7092

Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:
I would agree that they BIOS flash may have hosed the card. However, it doesn't help that you are playing with such a low resolution. A card of that power isn't really going to start flexing it muscle until at least 1600x1200...with a few noted game exceptions.

I have a 4850 in a old Dell XPS3 with a P4 3.6 HT. Would making the res 1280x1024 or even 1600x1200 from 1024x768 help it play PR better? Probably the processor holding the card back anyway.

2009-03-27 10:53:17

#24

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6460|Winland

CC-Marley wrote:
Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:
I would agree that they BIOS flash may have hosed the card. However, it doesn't help that you are playing with such a low resolution. A card of that power isn't really going to start flexing it muscle until at least 1600x1200...with a few noted game exceptions.
I have a 4850 in a old Dell XPS3 with a P4 3.6 HT. Would making the res 1280x1024 or even 1600x1200 from 1024x768 help it play PR better? Probably the processor holding the card back anyway.

Upping res doesn't take load off the CPU, it merely changes the CPU load:GPU load ratio; CPU load increases too when upping the res.

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

2009-03-27 10:56:32

#25

CC-Marley: Member; +407|7092

Thanks Freezer. Was hoping for a little boost in performance from the old girl.

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Little BaBy JESUS wrote:

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