They are the believers I am not. I am consistent with my respect, gratitude and reflections. They singularly pray for Muslim fall soldiers, it would appear.AussieReaper wrote:
lowing wrote:
What a great photo op though, if only they would pray for all of our soldiers.What a great example you set. If only you would pray for all of their soldiers.lowing wrote:
I respect, I reflect, I am grateful, I do not pray.
It would appear? You do not know.lowing wrote:
They are the believers I am not. I am consistent with my respect, gratitude and reflections. They singularly pray for Muslim fall soldiers, it would appear.
You don't you consider the Muslim who fought against fellow Muslims as deserving of your respect? The fallen soldier who died fighting for the United States and all you can say is it is a great photo op.
I have respect and gratitude for this fallen soldier, as a fallen American, not a fallen Muslim. The SAME respect I have for ALL of fallen soldiers.AussieReaper wrote:
It would appear? You do not know.lowing wrote:
They are the believers I am not. I am consistent with my respect, gratitude and reflections. They singularly pray for Muslim fall soldiers, it would appear.
You don't you consider the Muslim who fought against fellow Muslims as deserving of your respect? The fallen soldier who died fighting for the United States and all you can say is it is a great photo op.
IT was a photo op like it or not. It was posted on this forum, as nothing more than "photographic proof" to argue how tolerant, peaceful, and respectful of America Islam is. It was not posted here for all of us to pay homage to a fallen American soldier.
Oops, guess I shouldn't have made this post then?lowing wrote:
It was not posted here for all of us to pay homage to a fallen American soldier.
http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?pi … 4#p2582244
Well he was Muslim so you're just going to have to deal with it... I'm not religious, I don't even like the very concept of organised religion, but do you think I show any less respect when I'm at another person's funeral? Do you think I point out to everyone that I'm only mourning the non-religious aspects of the deceased's life?lowing wrote:
I have respect and gratitude for this fallen soldier, as a fallen American, not a fallen Muslim. The SAME respect I have for ALL of fallen soldiers.AussieReaper wrote:
It would appear? You do not know.lowing wrote:
They are the believers I am not. I am consistent with my respect, gratitude and reflections. They singularly pray for Muslim fall soldiers, it would appear.
You don't you consider the Muslim who fought against fellow Muslims as deserving of your respect? The fallen soldier who died fighting for the United States and all you can say is it is a great photo op.
IT was a photo op like it or not. It was posted on this forum, as nothing more than "photographic proof" to argue how tolerant, peaceful, and respectful of America Islam is. It was not posted here for all of us to pay homage to a fallen American soldier.
All those other funerals were "photo ops" too, but you only get annoyed when its an Islamic funeral because it challenges your perception of how Muslims view America. You could have just posted your condolences for a dead American soldier, like you would in any other thread, but your hatred of Islam is so strong it can even make you lose your sense of patriotism. Quite sad really.
EE and you still can't read. Thanks for proving my point.Ottomania wrote:
You sink deeper as you speak. Islam encourages you to improve in science too. If most of Muslims are not good at technology as much as western civilizations, that's not a problem of Islam. I study Electrical Engineering at university atm, and I am muslim. Is there a contradiction according to you?Lotta_Drool wrote:
90+ % of christians don't really believe. Educated means they lernt math/science/history enough to formulate logical deductions about the world around them.Ottomania wrote:
How can you say "Educated people are smart enough to know religion is BS bla bla bla". What has education to do with religion? Whats the definition of education in your mind? Being an atheist?
Lowing has gone further than critisizing Muslims btw.
Do you know there are tribes in Africa that would probably worship you if you used electricity and such around them? <-- not educated
If you believe in Islam, why aren't you fighting? The way I see it your religion demands that you either make jihad on the West or make jihad on those subverting the word of Muhammad and killing in his name.
I don't care if he was a Muslim or not, he was an American. Those other photos were not posted on forums to prove anytthing such as what I stated previously.Braddock wrote:
Well he was Muslim so you're just going to have to deal with it... I'm not religious, I don't even like the very concept of organised religion, but do you think I show any less respect when I'm at another person's funeral? Do you think I point out to everyone that I'm only mourning the non-religious aspects of the deceased's life?lowing wrote:
I have respect and gratitude for this fallen soldier, as a fallen American, not a fallen Muslim. The SAME respect I have for ALL of fallen soldiers.AussieReaper wrote:
It would appear? You do not know.
You don't you consider the Muslim who fought against fellow Muslims as deserving of your respect? The fallen soldier who died fighting for the United States and all you can say is it is a great photo op.
IT was a photo op like it or not. It was posted on this forum, as nothing more than "photographic proof" to argue how tolerant, peaceful, and respectful of America Islam is. It was not posted here for all of us to pay homage to a fallen American soldier.
All those other funerals were "photo ops" too, but you only get annoyed when its an Islamic funeral because it challenges your perception of how Muslims view America. You could have just posted your condolences for a dead American soldier, like you would in any other thread, but your hatred of Islam is so strong it can even make you lose your sense of patriotism. Quite sad really.
I would have except this thread was not looking for consolment. It was trying to make a point about Islam, so I responded as such
Sorry but thats about as dumb a comment as saying all Christians should be forming a religious crusade right now.Lotta_Drool wrote:
If you believe in Islam, why aren't you fighting? The way I see it your religion demands that you either make jihad on the West or make jihad on those subverting the word of Muhammad and killing in his name.
Christians should be spreading the word of god to save souls. They should not fear death or put anyone before God. Death will bring eternal life in the greatness of their creator, to deny god in heart and mind brings eternal damnation. God only requires 1 thing, and that is that we believe and accept him. He asks that we spread the word and treat/care for others as if they were him.AussieReaper wrote:
Sorry but thats about as dumb a comment as saying all Christians should be forming a religious crusade right now.Lotta_Drool wrote:
If you believe in Islam, why aren't you fighting? The way I see it your religion demands that you either make jihad on the West or make jihad on those subverting the word of Muhammad and killing in his name.
^ Don't see too many true believers in this world.
Don't see how you see that as a dumb statement. The uneducated people too stupid to realise their is no god are killing in the name of God (islam) daily because their god demands it. EE student isn't out killing for some reason????
You should better go understand Islam rather than making such low IQ comments. You are just driving me crazy such that I am holding myself very hard not to make a personal attack.Lotta_Drool wrote:
If you believe in Islam, why aren't you fighting? The way I see it your religion demands that you either make jihad on the West or make jihad on those subverting the word of Muhammad and killing in his name.
thats the point of his posts. spit aint no religious fuck.
I'm sure he's quaking in his boots.Ottomania wrote:
You should better go understand Islam rather than making such low IQ comments. You are just driving me crazy such that I am holding myself very hard not to make a personal attack.Lotta_Drool wrote:
If you believe in Islam, why aren't you fighting? The way I see it your religion demands that you either make jihad on the West or make jihad on those subverting the word of Muhammad and killing in his name.
Don't do it man, don't give in to the extremist in you! You'll only be proving lowing and Lotta_Drool right, it's all part of their plan!Ottomania wrote:
You should better go understand Islam rather than making such low IQ comments. You are just driving me crazy such that I am holding myself very hard not to make a personal attack.Lotta_Drool wrote:
If you believe in Islam, why aren't you fighting? The way I see it your religion demands that you either make jihad on the West or make jihad on those subverting the word of Muhammad and killing in his name.
Just kidding. Look, I am no fan of religion either, but I see that it gives a lot of people a sense of purpose in this life and if they want to follow it then its entirely their decision. If they want to debate me on the subject I may tear strips off them but if they want to quietly go about their religious business I certainly won't track them down to argue with them or give them a hard time. I couldn't care less what way they interpret their religion as long as it doesn't lead to the harm of others... who cares if some right-wing bell-end on a forum thinks that true Islam only lies in the slaughter of non-believers, that's their business, not the business of the Muslim who is living their life in peace and harmony with those around him.
By all means, what does your beloved child molester, murderer, messenger of God have to teach us?Ottomania wrote:
You should better go understand Islam rather than making such low IQ comments. You are just driving me crazy such that I am holding myself very hard not to make a personal attack.Lotta_Drool wrote:
If you believe in Islam, why aren't you fighting? The way I see it your religion demands that you either make jihad on the West or make jihad on those subverting the word of Muhammad and killing in his name.
Personal attacks? No one has every personally attacked me before on this forum, what will I ever do?
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lol. What an uneducated insensitive uncalled for petty little remark. Grow the fuck up, you're a middle aged man.lowing wrote:
By all means, what does your beloved child molester, murderer, messenger of God have to teach us?Ottomania wrote:
You should better go understand Islam rather than making such low IQ comments. You are just driving me crazy such that I am holding myself very hard not to make a personal attack.Lotta_Drool wrote:
If you believe in Islam, why aren't you fighting? The way I see it your religion demands that you either make jihad on the West or make jihad on those subverting the word of Muhammad and killing in his name.
Personal attacks? No one has every personally attacked me before on this forum before, what will I ever do?
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I am sorry, let me apologize:I am sorry for not knowing what I would if I were personally attacked on this forumCameronPoe wrote:
lol. What an uneducated insensitive uncalled for petty little remark. Grow the fuck up, you're a middle aged man.lowing wrote:
By all means, what does your beloved child molester, murderer, messenger of God have to teach us?Ottomania wrote:
You should better go understand Islam rather than making such low IQ comments. You are just driving me crazy such that I am holding myself very hard not to make a personal attack.
Personal attacks? No one has every personally attacked me before on this forum before, what will I ever do?
I don't know what you know lowing but I do know what you don't know or don't want to know and it could fill a rather vast ocean.lowing wrote:
I am sorry, let me apologize:I am sorry for not knowing what I would if I were personally attacked on this forumCameronPoe wrote:
lol. What an uneducated insensitive uncalled for petty little remark. Grow the fuck up, you're a middle aged man.lowing wrote:
By all means, what does your beloved child molester, murderer, messenger of God have to teach us?
Personal attacks? No one has every personally attacked me before on this forum before, what will I ever do?
Maybe it would be best if you knew who it was you were worshipping as a messenger of God.
http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/sina/ayesha.htm
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1450484/posts
http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/sina/ayesha.htm
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1450484/posts
Looks like you have quite a task proving me wrong Cam..Good luckCameronPoe wrote:
I don't know what you know lowing but I do know what you don't know or don't want to know and it could fill a rather vast ocean.lowing wrote:
I am sorry, let me apologize:I am sorry for not knowing what I would if I were personally attacked on this forumCameronPoe wrote:
lol. What an uneducated insensitive uncalled for petty little remark. Grow the fuck up, you're a middle aged man.
To be honest I am fed up to my gills with how great you think Islam is and how peaceful you think it is and how tolerant you think it is. I am fed up with the excuse as to how misunderstood it is.
Islam is what it is, and history has judged it. So be it. Deal with it
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I don't have to prove you wrong on anything. You have demonstrated your incorrectness umpteen times before. I haven't really been on the forum much in the past few months but I took a peek to see how things were and what do I see? The same petty, exaggerated, overblown, generalised, hypocritical, can't-smell-your-own-shit, play-on-fears, histrionic nonsense that you've peddled time and time again. It's amusing/sad that a family man has so much rancour and hatred in his soul for a way of life that has no bearing on him, never will have a bearing on him (most likely) and is of no real or immediate concern to him. I say you move on and make peace with your inner demons.lowing wrote:
Looks like you have quite a task proving me wrong Cam..Good luckCameronPoe wrote:
I don't know what you know lowing but I do know what you don't know or don't want to know and it could fill a rather vast ocean.lowing wrote:
I am sorry, let me apologize:I am sorry for not knowing what I would if I were personally attacked on this forum
To be honest I am fed up to my gills with how great you think Islam is and how peaceful you think it is and how tolerant you think it is. I am fed up with the excuse as to how misunderstood it is.
Islam is what it is, and history has judged it. So be it. Deal with it
Islam is what it is and it is hopefully evolving in the right direction, as witnessed in nations like Turkey, the UK and the UAE, just exactly in the same manner Christianity evolved. I won't let a small bunch of extremists tarnish innocent people who just want to get on with their lives and mind their own business. Deal with it. To me all religion is nonsense - practice whichever you like you're equally backward to me. You need to learn that the entire world can't be on the same page in development at the same time. To think it could be is frankly idiotic.
I'm not gonna waste my time interpreting somebody's else's religion for them, poring over a highly self-contradictory book full of fanciful tales (just like the bible) so that I can characterise a mass on the basis of a small minority. Waste your time on it if you want, I have better things to do.
PS You do realise that Mary, the mother of Jesus, was probably 12 or 13 when she had him right? For an areligious man you seem to take an awful interest in the nonsense and a terrible habit of being unable to disassociate the ancient past from the present.
Enjoy the rest of this pointless debate rerun - I'm off to pack for Moscow.
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In my defense, you responded to my CORRECTLY and FACTUALLY calling Muhammad a child molester and a murderer. Are you going to dispute that or just rant on about evolution?CameronPoe wrote:
I don't have to prove you wrong on anything. You have demonstrated your incorrectness umpteen times before. I haven't really been on the forum much in the past few months but I took a peek to see how things were and what do I see? The same petty, exaggerated, overblown, generalised, hypocritical, can't-smell-your-own-shit, play-on-fears, histrionic nonsense that you've peddled time and time again. It's amusing/sad that a family man has so much rancour and hatred in his soul for a way of life that has no bearing on him, never will have a bearing on him (most likely) and is of no real or immediate concern to him. I say you move on and make peace with your inner demons.lowing wrote:
Looks like you have quite a task proving me wrong Cam..Good luckCameronPoe wrote:
I don't know what you know lowing but I do know what you don't know or don't want to know and it could fill a rather vast ocean.
To be honest I am fed up to my gills with how great you think Islam is and how peaceful you think it is and how tolerant you think it is. I am fed up with the excuse as to how misunderstood it is.
Islam is what it is, and history has judged it. So be it. Deal with it
Islam is what it is and it is hopefully evolving in the right direction, as witnessed in nations like Turkey, the UK and the UAE, just exactly in the same manner Christianity evolved. I won't let a small bunch of extremists tarnish innocent people who just want to get on with their lives and mind their own business. Deal with it. To me all religion is nonsense - practice whichever you like you're equally backward to me. You need to learn that the entire world can't be on the same page in development at the same time. To think it could be is frankly idiotic.
I'm not gonna waste my time interpreting somebody's else's religion for them, poring over a highly self-contradictory book full of fanciful tales (just like the bible) so that I can characterise a mass on the basis of a small minority. Waste your time on it if you want, I have better things to do.
PS You do realise that Mary, the mother of Jesus, was probably 12 or 13 when she had him right? For an areligious man you seem to take an awful interest in the nonsense and a terrible habit of being unable to disassociate the ancient past from the present.
Enjoy the rest of this pointless debate rerun - I'm off to pack for Moscow.
Get back with my about Jesus whenever you find that he was a murderer or a child molester. I doubt blaming him for his mother child molestation will hold up in court.
as a Dubliner once said:-
Just because a man is born in a stable, doesn't make him a horse!
In Soviet Russia, case packs you.CameronPoe wrote:
I don't have to prove you wrong on anything. You have demonstrated your incorrectness umpteen times before. I haven't really been on the forum much in the past few months but I took a peek to see how things were and what do I see? The same petty, exaggerated, overblown, generalised, hypocritical, can't-smell-your-own-shit, play-on-fears, histrionic nonsense that you've peddled time and time again. It's amusing/sad that a family man has so much rancour and hatred in his soul for a way of life that has no bearing on him, never will have a bearing on him (most likely) and is of no real or immediate concern to him. I say you move on and make peace with your inner demons.lowing wrote:
Looks like you have quite a task proving me wrong Cam..Good luckCameronPoe wrote:
I don't know what you know lowing but I do know what you don't know or don't want to know and it could fill a rather vast ocean.
To be honest I am fed up to my gills with how great you think Islam is and how peaceful you think it is and how tolerant you think it is. I am fed up with the excuse as to how misunderstood it is.
Islam is what it is, and history has judged it. So be it. Deal with it
Islam is what it is and it is hopefully evolving in the right direction, as witnessed in nations like Turkey, the UK and the UAE, just exactly in the same manner Christianity evolved. I won't let a small bunch of extremists tarnish innocent people who just want to get on with their lives and mind their own business. Deal with it. To me all religion is nonsense - practice whichever you like you're equally backward to me. You need to learn that the entire world can't be on the same page in development at the same time. To think it could be is frankly idiotic.
I'm not gonna waste my time interpreting somebody's else's religion for them, poring over a highly self-contradictory book full of fanciful tales (just like the bible) so that I can characterise a mass on the basis of a small minority. Waste your time on it if you want, I have better things to do.
PS You do realise that Mary, the mother of Jesus, was probably 12 or 13 when she had him right? For an areligious man you seem to take an awful interest in the nonsense and a terrible habit of being unable to disassociate the ancient past from the present.
Enjoy the rest of this pointless debate rerun - I'm off to pack for Moscow.
I don't care a fucking toss in hell what went by as socially acceptable 1400 years ago, not a single jot. When did Jesus start banging Mary Magdalene? Was she legal? I don't fucking care! And neither should you! Wow this is pointless.lowing wrote:
In my defense, you responded to my CORRECTLY and FACTUALLY calling Muhammad a child molester and a murderer. Are you going to dispute that or just rant on about evolution?
Get back with my about Jesus whenever you find that he was a murderer or a child molester. I doubt blaming him for his mother child molestation will hold up in court.
FYI The legal age of consent, for what it's worth, in devoutly Catholic Spain & The Philippines is 13 and the death penalty and war is legal under a variety of circumstances in modern western nations.
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Are they honoring a Buddhist or an American?
Caption:Buddhist monks look on as a Marine honor guard carry the casket of Marine Cpl. Kemaphoom Chanawongse, of Waterford, Conn., during funeral services at Arlington National Cemetery in Arlington, Va., Monday, April 28, 2003. Chanawongse was killed on March 23 during operations on the outskirts of Nasiriyah, Iraq. For the first time in memory, a Buddhist monk presided over an Arlington National Cemetery burial ceremony.
A soldier from Queens killed in Iraq was mourned yesterday in a prayerful ceremony that blended the Buddhist traditions of his Thai ancestors with the symbols of American military service.
Caption:Buddhist monks look on as a Marine honor guard carry the casket of Marine Cpl. Kemaphoom Chanawongse, of Waterford, Conn., during funeral services at Arlington National Cemetery in Arlington, Va., Monday, April 28, 2003. Chanawongse was killed on March 23 during operations on the outskirts of Nasiriyah, Iraq. For the first time in memory, a Buddhist monk presided over an Arlington National Cemetery burial ceremony.
A soldier from Queens killed in Iraq was mourned yesterday in a prayerful ceremony that blended the Buddhist traditions of his Thai ancestors with the symbols of American military service.
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