Hillsborough Disaster.

2009-04-15 15:41:09

#26

Mekstizzle: WALKER; +3,611|7048|London, England

The cops let them into the area even though it was full, thus a crush happened and people died. It was mistakes on behalf of loads of people, the cops, the organisers, the fans. Why were there so many people in the first place. You can't put the blame on one group, accidents and shit like this happen because multiple mistakes were made.

It's just that most people would rather think it was all because of the cops and surely the fans were blameless. That's wrong. You can't 100% blame the cops on the accident

2009-04-15 15:42:20

#27

N00bkilla55404: Voices are calling...; +136|6358|Somewhere out in Space

Kptk92 wrote:
Do you know why people "rushed" in?

Fence did not collapse.

Ive seen that freaking hour long special on this "disaster" at least half-a-dozen times.

2009-04-15 15:44:28

#28

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6624|Winland

mafia996630 wrote:
blah wrote:
R.I.P.

I don't want to sound like a complete fucktard,but why did you bring this thread up?From what I can see you're Belgian and have no relations with people who died(again R.I.P.)in that tragedy.
Many tragedies and deaths occur everyday,I don't know what's so special about this.It's not like someone doesn't get hurt on soccer fields every now and then.

On this day,April 15:

1912: The British luxury liner Titanic sinks after colliding with an iceberg; it is among the worst maritime disasters in history, with more than 1,500 dead.

1986: In retaliation for the terrorist bombing of a Berlin discotheque, the United States launches an air raid against Libya; nearly 40 people are killed.
I don't know what you non-football people think about the beautiful game but it ant no fuking war zone, and it certainly ant no green street.

Freezer7Pro wrote:
So there's a difference between innocent people dying by the hands of other innocent people and innocent people dying by the hands of professional killers?

So you're saying it's OK to kill innocent people if it's in a "war zone"? I still don't see why we should value some human life more than other.

Last edited by Freezer7Pro (2009-04-15 15:46:03)

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

2009-04-15 15:46:42

#29

mafia996630: © 2009 Jeff Minard; +319|7191|d

Freezer7Pro wrote:
mafia996630 wrote:
blah wrote:
R.I.P.

I don't want to sound like a complete fucktard,but why did you bring this thread up?From what I can see you're Belgian and have no relations with people who died(again R.I.P.)in that tragedy.
Many tragedies and deaths occur everyday,I don't know what's so special about this.It's not like someone doesn't get hurt on soccer fields every now and then.

On this day,April 15:

1912: The British luxury liner Titanic sinks after colliding with an iceberg; it is among the worst maritime disasters in history, with more than 1,500 dead.

1986: In retaliation for the terrorist bombing of a Berlin discotheque, the United States launches an air raid against Libya; nearly 40 people are killed.
I don't know what you non-football people think about the beautiful game but it ant no fuking war zone, and it certainly ant no green street.
Freezer7Pro wrote:
So there's a difference between innocent people dying by the hands of other innocent people and innocent people dying by the hands of professional killers?
So you're saying it's OK to kill innocent people if it's in a "war zone"? I still don't see why we should value some human life more than other.

no.

Edit: Don't value some human life more then others however we as human beings are not as logical as that. if people want to do that, no need to criticize.

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2009-04-15 15:49:07

#30

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6624|Winland

mafia996630 wrote:
Freezer7Pro wrote:
mafia996630 wrote:

I don't know what you non-football people think about the beautiful game but it ant no fuking war zone, and it certainly ant no green street.
Freezer7Pro wrote:
So there's a difference between innocent people dying by the hands of other innocent people and innocent people dying by the hands of professional killers?
So you're saying it's OK to kill innocent people if it's in a "war zone"? I still don't see why we should value some human life more than other.
no.

Then what are you saying?

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

2009-04-15 15:53:14

#31

mafia996630: © 2009 Jeff Minard; +319|7191|d

Freezer7Pro wrote:
mafia996630 wrote:
Freezer7Pro wrote:
mafia996630 wrote:
I don't know what you non-football people think about the beautiful game but it ant no fuking war zone, and it certainly ant no green street.
So you're saying it's OK to kill innocent people if it's in a "war zone"? I still don't see why we should value some human life more than other.
no.
Then what are you saying?

That your a noob ?

2009-04-15 15:53:56

#32

ghettoperson: Member; +1,943|7076

Great argument...

2009-04-15 15:57:37

#33

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6624|Winland

mafia996630 wrote:
Freezer7Pro wrote:
mafia996630 wrote:

no.
Then what are you saying?
That your a noob ?

Read the following in a Mickey Mouse voice:

Oh boy! You sure told me there!

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

2009-04-15 15:58:02

#34

mafia996630: © 2009 Jeff Minard; +319|7191|d

ghettoperson wrote:
Great argument...

I ant having an argument.

2009-04-15 16:02:17

#35

mafia996630: © 2009 Jeff Minard; +319|7191|d

Freezer7Pro wrote:
mafia996630 wrote:
Freezer7Pro wrote:

Then what are you saying?
That your a noob ?
Read the following in a Mickey Mouse voice:

Oh boy! You sure told me there!

Ok Mr Freezer, why do you think a war zone is comparable to a football match ?

2009-04-15 16:02:27

#36

ghettoperson: Member; +1,943|7076

You're just making yourself look stupid. I know this is EE, but I figure you can at least bother to state your reasons rather than resorting to 'no u' type shit.

2009-04-15 16:04:35

#37

KingCheese: Paul Scholes; +77|7012|England

Know quite a few lads who were at Hillsborough in the Forest end. Hearing them talk about that day is pretty harrowing stuff, let alone what it must have been like in the opposite end. Rest in peace the 96.

"My best moment? I have a lot of good moments but the one I prefer is when I kicked the hooligan." - Eric Cantona.

2009-04-15 16:08:38

#38

mafia996630: © 2009 Jeff Minard; +319|7191|d

ghettoperson wrote:
You're just making yourself look stupid. I know this is EE, but I figure you can at least bother to state your reasons rather than resorting to 'no u' type shit.

reasons for what ? what are we suppose to be debating here ? As far as I am concerned, this is how it ended:

"no.

Edit: Don't value some human life more then others however we as human beings are not as logical as that. if people want to do that, no need to criticize.
"

^^See that ? I have no point, i am not debating, i am killing the "beef" so to speak.

2009-04-15 16:09:59

#39

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6624|Winland

mafia996630 wrote:
Freezer7Pro wrote:
mafia996630 wrote:

That your a noob ?
Read the following in a Mickey Mouse voice:

Oh boy! You sure told me there!
Ok Mr Freezer, why do you think a war zone is comparable to a football match ?

What I'm saying is that there is no difference between innocent people in the UK and innocent people in Iraq. I find it disgusting how self-righteous people are about that. When 100 people get killed in a rich country, it's a "disaster", or a "tragedy". When 1000 people get killed in a poor country, it's a "war", and thus somehow justified.

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

2009-04-15 16:14:57

#40

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6898

Zimmer wrote:
ghettoperson wrote:
Dead football hooligans? Hard to care tbh.
That's probably the douchiest and most disgusting thing I have ever seen from you.

Children died at the disaster. Innocent normal people died there. Most of them not even over 30.

RIP.

I still don't care, fuck it.

If we mourned every tragedy and every unnecessary loss of human life, then we'd have 10 minutes of silence every day of the year.

By the way Freezer your crazy political-argument has nooo fucking point whatsoever. Football matches and Iraq war? K.

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2009-04-15 16:15:51

#41

mafia996630: © 2009 Jeff Minard; +319|7191|d

Freezer7Pro wrote:
mafia996630 wrote:
Freezer7Pro wrote:
Read the following in a Mickey Mouse voice:

Oh boy! You sure told me there!
Ok Mr Freezer, why do you think a war zone is comparable to a football match ?
What I'm saying is that there is no difference between innocent people in the UK and innocent people in Iraq. I find it disgusting how self-righteous people are about that. When 100 people get killed in a rich country, it's a "disaster", or a "tragedy". When 1000 people get killed in a poor country, it's a "war", and thus somehow justified.

Where were you when all the twin towers threads were around? lul.

Anyway I totally agree with what your saying, but like I said; its much more real when its closer to home. For example, one of your family members could die tomorrow but you wouldn't think of it as another death, would you ? It would mean so much more.

Last edited by mafia996630 (2009-04-15 16:17:11)

2009-04-15 16:17:57

#42

CameronPoe: Member; +2,925|6982

mafia996630 wrote:
Where were you when all the twin towers threads were around? lul.

Anyway I totally agree with what your saying, but like I said; its much more real when its closer to home. For example, one of your family members could die tomorrow but you wouldn't think of it as another death, would you ? It would mean so much more.

https://uk.wrs.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0WTf2kUa.ZJ.1oAQQBWBQx./SIG=133m88ard/EXP=1239923860/**http%3A//shinymedia.blogs.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/01/16/stalin_color555.jpg

2009-04-15 16:18:57

#43

Uzique wrote:
Zimmer wrote:
ghettoperson wrote:
Dead football hooligans? Hard to care tbh.
That's probably the douchiest and most disgusting thing I have ever seen from you.

Children died at the disaster. Innocent normal people died there. Most of them not even over 30.

RIP.
I still don't care, fuck it.

If we mourned every tragedy and every unnecessary loss of human life, then we'd have 10 minutes of silence every day of the year.

By the way Freezer your crazy political-argument has nooo fucking point whatsoever. Football matches and Iraq war? K.

don't give a fuk, at least don't criticize other people for giving a fuk. (all this fuk business is confusing)

2009-04-15 16:27:59

#44

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6624|Winland

mafia996630 wrote:
Freezer7Pro wrote:
mafia996630 wrote:

Ok Mr Freezer, why do you think a war zone is comparable to a football match ?
What I'm saying is that there is no difference between innocent people in the UK and innocent people in Iraq. I find it disgusting how self-righteous people are about that. When 100 people get killed in a rich country, it's a "disaster", or a "tragedy". When 1000 people get killed in a poor country, it's a "war", and thus somehow justified.
Where were you when all the twin towers threads were around? lul.

Anyway I totally agree with what your saying, but like I said; its much more real when its closer to home. For example, one of your family members could die tomorrow but you wouldn't think of it as another death, would you ? It would mean so much more.

As a matter of fact, a very close family member of mine died just a couple of months ago. I haven't spilt a tear over it. I cried over him being bed bound by cancer, yes, but not his death. Everyone has to die some time, even our loved ones. I pay equal respect to everyone on that matter.

Except for my dog. When she dies, I will weep like a little girl.

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

2009-04-15 16:33:01

#45

m3thod: All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz; +2,197|7098|UK

Freezer7Pro wrote:
mafia996630 wrote:
Freezer7Pro wrote:

What I'm saying is that there is no difference between innocent people in the UK and innocent people in Iraq. I find it disgusting how self-righteous people are about that. When 100 people get killed in a rich country, it's a "disaster", or a "tragedy". When 1000 people get killed in a poor country, it's a "war", and thus somehow justified.
Where were you when all the twin towers threads were around? lul.

Anyway I totally agree with what your saying, but like I said; its much more real when its closer to home. For example, one of your family members could die tomorrow but you wouldn't think of it as another death, would you ? It would mean so much more.
As a matter of fact, a very close family member of mine died just a couple of months ago. I haven't spilt a tear over it. I cried over him being bed bound by cancer, yes, but not his death. Everyone has to die some time, even our loved ones. I pay equal respect to everyone on that matter.

Except for my dog. When she dies, I will weep like a little girl.

Better make like your avatar before she snuffs it.

Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.

2009-04-15 16:33:31

#46

Freezer7Pro wrote:
mafia996630 wrote:
Freezer7Pro wrote:

What I'm saying is that there is no difference between innocent people in the UK and innocent people in Iraq. I find it disgusting how self-righteous people are about that. When 100 people get killed in a rich country, it's a "disaster", or a "tragedy". When 1000 people get killed in a poor country, it's a "war", and thus somehow justified.
Where were you when all the twin towers threads were around? lul.

Anyway I totally agree with what your saying, but like I said; its much more real when its closer to home. For example, one of your family members could die tomorrow but you wouldn't think of it as another death, would you ? It would mean so much more.
As a matter of fact, a very close family member of mine died just a couple of months ago. I haven't spilt a tear over it. I cried over him being bed bound by cancer, yes, but not his death. Everyone has to die some time, even our loved ones. I pay equal respect to everyone on that matter.

Except for my dog. When she dies, I will weep like a little girl.

"me too brother, me too."

2009-04-16 02:26:45

#47

Amdi Peter: peut-être; +111|5975|paris

Freezer7Pro wrote:
mafia996630 wrote:
Freezer7Pro wrote:

Read the following in a Mickey Mouse voice:

Oh boy! You sure told me there!
Ok Mr Freezer, why do you think a war zone is comparable to a football match ?
What I'm saying is that there is no difference between innocent people in the UK and innocent people in Iraq. I find it disgusting how self-righteous people are about that. When 100 people get killed in a rich country, it's a "disaster", or a "tragedy". When 1000 people get killed in a poor country, it's a "war", and thus somehow justified.

First, your argument with the invasion of Iraq and the Hillsborough disaster isn't an argument.

Second, war isn't justified. You can't compare innocent people dying in war, with innocent people dying in a disaster at a football match.
If you go to a football match, you don't expect the people, who are oragising the match, to fail in doing this probably, leading death.
In war, we have seen innocent people dying, over and over again. War isn't safe, not for the soldiers, not for the innocent civilians. We can do so many things to prevent innocent civilians dying. We're just not willing to. In football, we're not expecting the spectators to die, therefore we should have done anything preventing it from happen.

And you do know, they also play football in Afghanistan and Iraq.
Also, we have the International Criminal Court in Den Haag (The Hague). If you murder a thousand people, saying it's war or the like, this is most likely where you'll end up, facing charges of war crime.

2009-04-16 02:38:08

#48

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6624|Winland

Amdi Peter wrote:
Freezer7Pro wrote:
mafia996630 wrote:

Ok Mr Freezer, why do you think a war zone is comparable to a football match ?
What I'm saying is that there is no difference between innocent people in the UK and innocent people in Iraq. I find it disgusting how self-righteous people are about that. When 100 people get killed in a rich country, it's a "disaster", or a "tragedy". When 1000 people get killed in a poor country, it's a "war", and thus somehow justified.
And you do know, they also play football in Afghanistan and Iraq.
Also, we have the International Criminal Court in Den Haag (The Hague). If you murder a thousand people, saying it's war or the like, this is most likely where you'll end up, facing charges of war crime.

That's my point.

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

2009-04-16 02:53:37

#49

max: Vela Incident; +1,652|6994|NYC / Hamburg

I don't see the big deal tbh.

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2009-04-16 09:58:21

#50

Pvt.Kosak: Member; +125|7013

Some of the comments on this thread are disgusting.
Its a tragedy. A very sad one.

" Remember the 96 "

RIP.

BF2S Forums Hillsborough Disaster.

Kptk92 wrote:

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