Fat_Swinub
jaff
+125|6692
So are we dismissing this as another shitty fanservice unlock like the sandvich yet?
Peter
Super Awesome Member
+494|6659|dm_maidenhead

Fat_Swinub wrote:

So are we dismissing this as another shitty fanservice unlock like the sandvich yet?
Yes
Ty
Mass Media Casualty
+2,398|7031|Noizyland

The Sandvich wasn't fanservice, it came about at the same time it became an item for the Heavy. The jars of pee gained somewhat of a following after being featured in the "Meet the Sniper" video.



There's an ad at the bottom of this page for a free diet analysis... I wonder how that got there...
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Spidery_Yoda
Member
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"fanservice unlock"

These things should stay in the videos. I don't understand why they're so intent on taking every single little in-joke from the videos and ruining it like this. These things were funny in the videos. Especially the Sandvich. When MTScout came out everyone was like.

"The best part was the Heavy eating a sandwich". Because it was so surreal.

Now its just like. Meh. Overused.

Ty wrote:

The Sandvich wasn't fanservice, it came about 4 months before it became an item for the Heavy.
Fixed for accuracy for you.

Last edited by Spidery_Yoda (2009-05-21 09:26:34)

Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6727

Peter wrote:

Finray wrote:

Spidery_Yoda wrote:

Yes Zefar I agree about [Jarate] spoiling TF2's humour.

DoctaStrangelove wrote:

Piss Jars fits right in to TF2.

Spidery_Yoda wrote:

I agree.
Hate to call you out on this one, but...
Spidery_Yoda: 'I agree'
[KNTL] PeterSmileyFace: i don't
[KNTL] PeterSmileyFace: piss jars do not fit in with tf2
Spidery_Yoda: i couldnt be bothered anymore
Unlocks do not fit into tf2. They're silly gimmicks that last about a week. There have been about 2 decent unlocks ever. This stuff isn't exciting. etc.etc.
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Kez
Member
+778|5960|London, UK

Spidery_Yoda wrote:

Ty wrote:

The Sandvich wasn't fanservice, it came about 4 months before it became an item for the Heavy.
Fixed for accuracy for you.
And Jarate came about 10 months ago.
Spidery_Yoda
Member
+399|6527

Uzique wrote:

Unlocks do not fit into tf2. They're silly gimmicks that last about a week. There have been about 2 decent unlocks ever. This stuff isn't exciting. etc.etc.
I was hoping the unlocks would all add completely new levels of playing styles and add new skills to learn for the classes.

Unfortunately yeah. Most so far have been either gimmicks or a dumbed down version of the same weapon for less skilled players

Kptk92 wrote:

And Jarate came about 10 months ago.
Yeah it did. My point was that it didn't come out at the same time at all.

Last edited by Spidery_Yoda (2009-05-21 09:30:50)

Ty
Mass Media Casualty
+2,398|7031|Noizyland

Honestly I consider the Meet the Scout video and Heavy unlocks as a part of the same "update", don't quite know why. It seems you're right though.
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Fat_Swinub
jaff
+125|6692
Remember when valve said they wouldn't take away player movement and then the sandman came out, and even though everyone has complained about it, it still takes away player movement? Just going to point that out again for how reliable their original vision of unlocks was.
Spidery_Yoda
Member
+399|6527

Fat_Swinub wrote:

Remember when valve said they wouldn't take away player movement and then the sandman came out, and even though everyone has complained about it, it still takes away player movement? Just going to point that out again for how reliable their original vision of unlocks was.
Heh. That old quote. People always talk about it but they can never ever find the source, because it doesn't exist. I always used to talk about it as well. They never said that. I remember a thread on the Steam Forums where someone challenged the entire community. Find me the quote that says that and i'll be proven wrong he said. He wasn't proven wrong.

Robin replied to an email once and said that they see it mentioned but don't remember ever saying it. He goes on to say that they may have said it at some point, but design goals change over and and never say never etc.

So yeah. Either way I don't think we'll see more stunning weapons after the Sandman backlash.

Last edited by Spidery_Yoda (2009-05-21 09:36:46)

Kez
Member
+778|5960|London, UK
End of the day Jarate is staying. People can bitch and moan and cry all they want (i.e Steam forums) but it won't be removed.
DUnlimited
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+1,160|6720|cuntshitlake

Fat_Swinub wrote:

Remember when valve said they wouldn't take away player movement
Except that they never said that.
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Peter
Super Awesome Member
+494|6659|dm_maidenhead

Spidery_Yoda wrote:

Fat_Swinub wrote:

Remember when valve said they wouldn't take away player movement and then the sandman came out, and even though everyone has complained about it, it still takes away player movement? Just going to point that out again for how reliable their original vision of unlocks was.
Heh. That old quote. People always talk about it but they can never ever find the source, because it doesn't exist. I always used to talk about it as well. They never said that. I remember a thread on the Steam Forums where someone challenged the entire community. Find me the quote that says that and i'll be proven wrong he said. He wasn't proven wrong.
"But I'm sure it was in one of the dev commentaries"
/everyone goes and checks every dev commentary 10 times
"maybe not"

"ah, it was in one of the blog posts"
/everyone checks all the blog posts
"hmm"

"it was an interview with shacknews / some other gaming site"
/every article ever about a valve / tf2 checked

""
Doctor Strangelove
Real Battlefield Veterinarian.
+1,758|6725
I get the feeling that most people bitch about unlocks just because they like bitching about shit.
Peter
Super Awesome Member
+494|6659|dm_maidenhead

DoctaStrangelove wrote:

I get the feeling that most people bitch about unlocks just because they like bitching about shit.
and piss
Ty
Mass Media Casualty
+2,398|7031|Noizyland

I certainly am. It's 4:30am and I'm looking for things to take me away from this essay I'm supposed to be writing.
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Spidery_Yoda
Member
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Peter wrote:

DoctaStrangelove wrote:

because they like bitching about shit.
and piss
Haha. I see what you did there.

Honestly I don't mind the Jarate. The only problem I have with it is the fact that I think a) TF2's sense of humour used to be better than that, and b) It doesn't fit the character. Aside from that, bring it on I say. I can't wait to actually be able to help teammates as the Sniper.

We could go back to complaining about how UP/OP the Razorback is instead I guess

Last edited by Spidery_Yoda (2009-05-21 09:40:28)

Peter
Super Awesome Member
+494|6659|dm_maidenhead

Spidery_Yoda wrote:

Peter wrote:

DoctaStrangelove wrote:

because they like bitching about shit.
and piss
Haha. I see what you did there.

Honestly I don't mind the Jarate. The only problem I have with it is the fact that I think a) TF2's sense of humour used to be better than that, and b) It doesn't fit the character. Aside from that, bring it on I say. I can't wait to actually be able to help teammates as the Sniper.

We could go back to complaining about how UP/OP the Razorback is instead I guess
The Razorback is useless. I mean, only really really bad snipers will use it. Seriously. If you need to rely on it, then you may as well go play a different class. And also what kind of spy won't just learn to revolver them anyway. It's so dumb.
Fat_Swinub
jaff
+125|6692
I'm pretty damn sure I read it on shacknews when one of their guys did an interview about how unlocks would affect the game, but it's been over a year since I remember reading that. Just trying to make a stab at bad TF2 unlocks here.
Doctor Strangelove
Real Battlefield Veterinarian.
+1,758|6725
So what would be a better unlock to increase the sniper's teamwork then?
Fat_Swinub
jaff
+125|6692
SMG that disables crits yet is better in some way, like literally every unlock should be IMO.
Doctor Strangelove
Real Battlefield Veterinarian.
+1,758|6725

Fat_Swinub wrote:

SMG that disables crits yet is better in some way, like literally every unlock should be IMO.
So every unlock should be the Blutsauger, which is probably the most OP unlock around?
Fat_Swinub
jaff
+125|6692
Yep. The perfect unlock. Trade off random "I win" bullets for reliable upgrade? Yes please.
Spidery_Yoda
Member
+399|6527
But then you end up in a game where newcomers have inferior weapons to the people who are already better at the game.

Which isn't good.
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