Pirate Bay goes legal

2009-06-30 15:58:51

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some_random_panda: Flamesuit essential; +454|6813

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The Pirate Bay has been sold—and the new owners plan to make it a legal service that allows "content providers and copyright owners [to] get paid for content that is downloaded via the site."

Global Gaming Factory X AB, a Swedish firm that runs Internet cafes and game centers, plans to buy The Pirate Bay for 60 million kronor, twice the fine that was slapped on The Pirate Bay defendants by a Stockholm court earlier this year.

"The Pirate Bay is a site that is among the top 100 most visited Internet sites in the world," said GGF CEO Hans Pandeya. "However, in order to live on, The Pirate Bay requires a new business model, which satisfies the requirements and needs of all parties, content providers, broadband operators, end users, and the judiciary. Content creators and providers need to control their content and get paid for it. File sharers need faster downloads and better quality."

Not that the file-sharers in questions are necessarily pleased with the move; Peter Sunde Kolmisoppi, one of the site admins, has been battling Twitter criticism all day (what we'll call "Twit crit"), and shows signs of obvious fatigue with the entire Pirate Bay saga. "People hate me now for wanting to pause the six year free work we've been doing. Feels unfair," he wrote.

"We have no energy left," says another message, and a third reads, "We've been fighting for five years. Where's the thanks?"

GGF's acquisition of the site will only be confirmed after the company board decides that "the acquired assets can be used in a legally [sic] and appropriate way." If it does so, GGF will take over thepiratebay.org domain in August.

IFPI, the global music trade group, tells Ars that it is cautiously optimistic about the deal. "We don't know the details and there are many questions to ask about how this will work in practice, but we would be delighted if this resulted in the Pirate Bay turning into a legitimate licensed service," said CEO John Kennedy.

In addition to The Pirate Bay assets, GGF will acquire Swedish company Peerialism, which has developed a "new data distribution technology" that is also backwards-compatible with BitTorrent. The Peerialism code will form the basis for the new version of The Pirate Bay,

While The Pirate Bay name comes mired in legal uncertainty, it's still one of the world's best known domains, and GGF is acquiring it for under $8 million—a bargain if it really does have a workable plan for crafting a P2P version of iTunes out of the site.

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2009-06-30 16:00:57

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.Sup: be nice; +2,646|6875|The Twilight Zone

The Pirate Bay has been sold...

...plans to buy The Pirate Bay...

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2009-06-30 16:04:43

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Mekstizzle: WALKER; +3,611|7043|London, England

I don't get it, all The Pirate Bay was/is a torrent website right? What's so special about that? Torrents are shit for the most part anyway

2009-06-30 16:08:47

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Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6893

Mekstizzle wrote:
I don't get it, all The Pirate Bay was/is a torrent website right? What's so special about that? Torrents are shit for the most part anyway

rong

_{libertarian benefit collector - anti-academic super-intellectual}. _{http://mixlr.com/the-little-phrase/}

2009-06-30 16:09:50

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ghettoperson: Member; +1,943|7071

Why would they pay so much for it when they could start up their own site?

2009-06-30 16:10:23

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Miggle: FUCK UBISOFT; +1,411|7164|FUCK UBISOFT

Uzique wrote:
Mekstizzle wrote:
I don't get it, all The Pirate Bay was/is a torrent website right? What's so special about that? Torrents are shit for the most part anyway
rong

public torrents are shit.

2009-06-30 16:11:47

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.Sup: be nice; +2,646|6875|The Twilight Zone

ghettoperson wrote:
Why would they pay so much for it when they could start up their own site?

because the site is bookmarked in browsers of several 100 thousands of users?

2009-06-30 16:12:10

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NooBesT: Pizzahitler; +873|6891

ghettoperson wrote:
Why would they pay so much for it when they could start up their own site?

"The Pirate Bay is a site that is among the top 100 most visited Internet sites in the world"

2009-06-30 16:13:48

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Mekstizzle: WALKER; +3,611|7043|London, England

Uzique wrote:
Mekstizzle wrote:
I don't get it, all The Pirate Bay was/is a torrent website right? What's so special about that? Torrents are shit for the most part anyway
rong

Wrong as in Torrents aren't shit, or wrong as in Pirate Bay is more than just a generic Torrent indexing website

2009-06-30 16:14:25

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.Sup: be nice; +2,646|6875|The Twilight Zone

Mekstizzle wrote:
Uzique wrote:
Mekstizzle wrote:
I don't get it, all The Pirate Bay was/is a torrent website right? What's so special about that? Torrents are shit for the most part anyway
rong
Wrong as in Torrents aren't shit, or wrong as in Pirate Bay is more than just a generic Torrent indexing website

wrong in general

2009-06-30 16:15:39

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Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6893

.Sup wrote:
Mekstizzle wrote:
Uzique wrote:

rong
Wrong as in Torrents aren't shit, or wrong as in Pirate Bay is more than just a generic Torrent indexing website
wrong in general

This.

The Pirate Bay was a bit of a political and ideological standpoint for torrents, piracy and 'Internet communism'.

And torrents are far from shit.

Miggle, take your pedantry elsewhere... I was claiming his statement was wrong, and his statement included nothing about 'public torrents'.

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2009-06-30 16:17:38

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ghettoperson: Member; +1,943|7071

.Sup wrote:
ghettoperson wrote:
Why would they pay so much for it when they could start up their own site?
because the site is bookmarked in browsers of several 100 thousands of users?

So? They'll all visit it once, realise that you now have to buy shit and delete it. People aren't going to buy their stuff just because they like the name of the site.

2009-06-30 16:23:03

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CrazeD: Member; +368|7095|Maine

So, what does this mean for TPB?

I can't believe they fucking sold it. Fuck. Damnit. Cunt. Ass.

2009-06-30 16:27:17

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.Sup: be nice; +2,646|6875|The Twilight Zone

ghettoperson wrote:
.Sup wrote:
ghettoperson wrote:
Why would they pay so much for it when they could start up their own site?
because the site is bookmarked in browsers of several 100 thousands of users?
So? They'll all visit it once, realise that you now have to buy shit and delete it. People aren't going to buy their stuff just because they like the name of the site.

A lot of them will leave but a lot of them won't. People are registered on their forums just like you and me are here. If Jeff sells this site will you leave? Basically they are one step ahead if they buy a well "populated" site, they will save a lot of money on advertising their "new" site.

2009-06-30 16:29:11

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bugz: Fission Mailed; +3,311|6734

CrazeD wrote:
So, what does this mean for TPB?

I can't believe they fucking sold it. Fuck. Damnit. Cunt. Ass.

People will move to the next best public torrent indexing site. Personally I've had better luck with others than I have with TPB (more results and seeders).

Steam: http://steamcommunity.com/id/ebug122

2009-06-30 16:35:10

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ghettoperson: Member; +1,943|7071

.Sup wrote:
ghettoperson wrote:
.Sup wrote:

because the site is bookmarked in browsers of several 100 thousands of users?
So? They'll all visit it once, realise that you now have to buy shit and delete it. People aren't going to buy their stuff just because they like the name of the site.
A lot of them will leave but a lot of them won't. People are registered on their forums just like you and me are here. If Jeff sells this site will you leave? Basically they are one step ahead if they buy a well "populated" site, they will save a lot of money on advertising their "new" site.

If Jeff sold this site and we suddenly had to pay to post, you can be damn well sure I'd stop using it.

2009-06-30 16:37:20

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.Sup: be nice; +2,646|6875|The Twilight Zone

ghettoperson wrote:
.Sup wrote:
ghettoperson wrote:

So? They'll all visit it once, realise that you now have to buy shit and delete it. People aren't going to buy their stuff just because they like the name of the site.
A lot of them will leave but a lot of them won't. People are registered on their forums just like you and me are here. If Jeff sells this site will you leave? Basically they are one step ahead if they buy a well "populated" site, they will save a lot of money on advertising their "new" site.
If Jeff sold this site and we suddenly had to pay to post, you can be damn well sure I'd stop using it.

You know for a fact that the forum will be payable?

2009-06-30 16:44:17

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ghettoperson: Member; +1,943|7071

.Sup wrote:
ghettoperson wrote:
.Sup wrote:

A lot of them will leave but a lot of them won't. People are registered on their forums just like you and me are here. If Jeff sells this site will you leave? Basically they are one step ahead if they buy a well "populated" site, they will save a lot of money on advertising their "new" site.
If Jeff sold this site and we suddenly had to pay to post, you can be damn well sure I'd stop using it.
You know for a fact that the forum will be payable?

What are you talking about? I'm saying TPB charging to download is the same as BF2s charging you to post. And I would stop using it. It's not a very hard concept to grasp, there's a million free torrent sites out there, why would you pay to use one just because you used to use it when it was free? It's not like TPB is even especially good, it's just really big.

2009-06-30 16:51:23

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.Sup: be nice; +2,646|6875|The Twilight Zone

ghettoperson wrote:
.Sup wrote:
ghettoperson wrote:

If Jeff sold this site and we suddenly had to pay to post, you can be damn well sure I'd stop using it.
You know for a fact that the forum will be payable?
What are you talking about? I'm saying TPB charging to download is the same as BF2s charging you to post. And I would stop using it. It's not a very hard concept to grasp, there's a million free torrent sites out there, why would you pay to use one just because you used to use it when it was free? It's not like TPB is even especially good, it's just really big.

Exactly-its really big. Fantastic add by itself. Lots of people will want to see the new site operate and some might actually buy stuff there and stay as regular clients.

Legend: some-couple thousand people

You never know, they might even have better offer than itunes store which is a big hit.

2009-06-30 16:55:06

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NooBesT: Pizzahitler; +873|6891

Though people don't come to torrent sites to pay for shit.

2009-06-30 16:55:52

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ghettoperson: Member; +1,943|7071

The only people that it might attract would be people who don't torrent but hear about TPB in the news. Pirates aren't going to change their habits just because they like a website.

EDIT: They've got to sell 5.5 million euros worth of software and music before they're even going to start looking towards making a profit. That to me looks impossible.

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2009-06-30 16:56:44

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Stimey: +786|6542|Ontario | Canada

Demonoid > *

2009-06-30 16:59:34

#23

.Sup: be nice; +2,646|6875|The Twilight Zone

ghettoperson wrote:
The only people that it might attract would be people who don't torrent but hear about TPB in the news. Pirates aren't going to change their habits just because they like a website.

Is this based on a fact? I see where are not going to be on the same page but to answer to your original question again as to why thye bought it- Because its a well known site and not much or none of advertising will be needed. You can be sure they know that and thats one of the main reasons they bought it.

Edit: they already saved twice as much on advertising

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2009-06-30 16:59:54

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Miggle: FUCK UBISOFT; +1,411|7164|FUCK UBISOFT

Stimey wrote:
Demonoid > *

demonoid is godawful.

2009-06-30 17:03:04

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CrazeD: Member; +368|7095|Maine

.Sup wrote:
ghettoperson wrote:
The only people that it might attract would be people who don't torrent but hear about TPB in the news. Pirates aren't going to change their habits just because they like a website.
Is this based on a fact? I see where are not going to be on the same page but to answer to your original question again as to why thye bought it- Because its a well known site and not much or none of advertising will be needed. You can be sure they know that and thats one of the main reasons they bought it.

Edit: they already saved twice as much on advertising

Think about it. Why do people go to TPB in the first place? To get shit for free. If they wanted to pay for it they wouldn't be on TPB.

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