BF2S Forums demonoid run by the govt?

Wreckognize wrote:

luckily now I use Waffles mostly.

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cz231 wrote:

What a load of BS!

The DOJ isn't in charge of the DNS...or wait, did the US all of a sudden turn communist and take over the world? My bad! Last time I checked, an IP that is traceable to the Ukraine, means it's in Ukraine! Redirection or not, any one who visits demonoid is receiving files from Ukraine. It's as simple as that.


Not only that, but last time I checked, isn't intentional entrapment by a government official illegal, and invalid in court? Not to mention, any one involved would lose their job, if something like this actually existed!

Jonno.Norton - Private torrent trackers are even easier to prosecute. The MPAA and RIAA can hardly ever track peoples IP addresses in public torrent sites, because the statistics of users aren't recorded. This allows for a higher level of anonymity. In public trackers, they might find your IP address downloading one thing, but that isn't worth the legal cost. On the other hand, in a private tracker, the MPAA and RIAA can just click on your user name and receive all of your statistics of what you've downloaded.

Hal Licino wrote:

What kind of naive Pollyanna would think that the U.S. Government with billions of dollars of slush money, thousands of spooks on its payroll, and entire buildings dedicated to cyber issues wouldn't be able to redirect a lousy little DNS? I guess the same naive Pollyanna who thinks that anyone could ever prove entrapment in a case like this. I'm no professional conspiracy theorist, but cz231 you need to stop looking out the rose colored porthole in your starship because you must not even be living in the same galaxy as the rest of us.

cz231 wrote:

Are you joking? You wouldn't be able to prove entrapment? How is the DOJ going to present their evidence without telling how they got the entire IP record? Oh and a 'louse little DNS'? Do you knowwthat the DNS is? It's just the database for every single domain name on the Internet. Yeah, I totally agree, that the US would have no problem redirecty a 'lousy little DNS' (even thought it's the only one). Not to mention, ICANN threatened to revoke VeriSign's license for just redirecting untaken domains to their search engine. In this case, ICANN would be allowing something many degrees worse than what VeriSign did. And they would know if something like this would happen, because the DNS is monitored heavily by third parties to prevent anything like this.

One other thing. A domain name is considered property. Now if you do a whois, you would see that the same owner of demonoid.com has owned it since it's start in '02, and it doesn't expire until 2016. Also, you're forgetting one thing. It is illegal for the government to distribute files that are copyrighted, just like it is for anybody else. If they are the head of a torrent tracker that is infamous for copyrighted material, then they themselves are commiting a crime!

I'm sorry Hal, but the allegations and conspiracy you claim is totally far-fetched. Is it I, or you, who "needs to stop looking out the rose colored porthole in your starship because you must not even be living in the same galaxy as the rest of us.".


Look at the facts Hal, not just far fetched speculations.

bf2gammer wrote:

just a good point I read in the comment section that I beleive to be true

cz231 wrote:

What a load of BS!

The DOJ isn't in charge of the DNS...or wait, did the US all of a sudden turn communist and take over the world? My bad! Last time I checked, an IP that is traceable to the Ukraine, means it's in Ukraine! Redirection or not, any one who visits demonoid is receiving files from Ukraine. It's as simple as that.

Last edited by Bertster7 (2009-07-02 04:56:38)