Lol, welcome to 27's personal astrophysics lesson!
lol cheers. Nothing wrong with learning something new and everybody should say 'I dont understand' rather than keeping quiet. Its what I say to people in work if they are unsure.MrAnderson wrote:
Lol, welcome to 27's personal astrophysics lesson!
I am a little bit wiser and do appriciate any help given, but its like trying to teach ya Nan how to use Corel Draw.
I remember you sayin you have touble comprehending things that are fucking massive, didn't you?
Yeah, Ive just read in the 'aquariam' thread in the video section something holds 8.1million gallons. Could be a bath tub for all I care.SirSchloppy wrote:
I remember you sayin you have touble comprehending things that are fucking massive, didn't you?
I obviously know it isnt but I need something to compare it with.
Through school I learned in metric. Came straight to work knowing I would be dealing in imperial. Its so much better. If some wants a sign 4ft tall I can look at myself and knock 2 ft off and know what I'm dealing with. If they want it in 1220mm , how the fuck you supposed to picture that?
One of my old customers (LG) had the biggest factory in Europe. You could fit 5 football pitches inside it, it wasnt until someone told me that rather then the pubic square foot of it that I couldnt appriciate the size.
5 times that?
Is Jupiter is made entirely of gas? If so is the gas so dense that if anything hits it it doesn't get very far into it? I don't know alot about physics lol but i think its interesting!Kmarion wrote:
Jupiter is our solar systems Vaccum cleaner (as Mr.DonFck just pointed out). It's actually hit quite a bit. Shoemaker-Levy was the first time we've ever been able to predict and witness an impact. Yesterday's impact was viewed by chance.
Also consider that most people's notion of "gas" is a gas at standard atmospheric pressure and temperature - say for example air. But when talking about these gas giants, you need to consider the effect that gravity has on the gas.Defiance wrote:
@CapN: Gas, while it is more 'pillowy' then a solid, will still react drastically when hit by something that huge.
Taken from wikipedia to explain the basic composition of Jupiter:
Getting closer to the core of Jupiter, gravity attracts more and more hydrogen gas. This means that as you get closer to the core, the pressure and temperature of the gas increases. Due to the nature of material properties (just trust me on this), when a gas is placed under pressure, there is a certain point where it becomes a liquid (think of liquid nitrogen ). Even further significant compression results in liquid "metallic" hydrogen.Jupiter is thought to consist of a dense core with a mixture of elements, a surrounding layer of liquid metallic hydrogen with some helium, and an outer layer predominantly of molecular hydrogen.
Soooo... given the structure of Jupiter, an object impacting the planet does have an effect, and won't be effectively able to "pass through the gas".
Did you even look at my model?1927 wrote:
lol cheers. Nothing wrong with learning something new and everybody should say 'I dont understand' rather than keeping quiet. Its what I say to people in work if they are unsure.MrAnderson wrote:
Lol, welcome to 27's personal astrophysics lesson!
I am a little bit wiser and do appriciate any help given, but its like trying to teach ya Nan how to use Corel Draw.
Meks mother?
Not entirely. At very, very, very deep depths the pressure is such that the hydrogen liquiefies... at several thousand degrees.SEREVENT wrote:
Is Jupiter is made entirely of gas? If so is the gas so dense that if anything hits it it doesn't get very far into it? I don't know alot about physics lol but i think its interesting!Kmarion wrote:
Jupiter is our solar systems Vaccum cleaner (as Mr.DonFck just pointed out). It's actually hit quite a bit. Shoemaker-Levy was the first time we've ever been able to predict and witness an impact. Yesterday's impact was viewed by chance.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
~ Richard Feynman
*cough* points to my post up above *cough*Spark wrote:
Not entirely. At very, very, very deep depths the pressure is such that the hydrogen liquiefies... at several thousand degrees.SEREVENT wrote:
Is Jupiter is made entirely of gas? If so is the gas so dense that if anything hits it it doesn't get very far into it? I don't know alot about physics lol but i think its interesting!Kmarion wrote:
Jupiter is our solar systems Vaccum cleaner (as Mr.DonFck just pointed out). It's actually hit quite a bit. Shoemaker-Levy was the first time we've ever been able to predict and witness an impact. Yesterday's impact was viewed by chance.
To answer ya other post: 'Did you not look at my model'? Nope.Ioan92 wrote:
What the hell is hard to understand?1927 wrote:
What did he just say?
'This one blast cloud is the size of the Earth'.
Fucking hell no wonder I don't understand the solar system and all that. In fact I dont even like sci-fi.
And if I turn out like them ugly people crowded around the pc screen best I stay away from it aswell.
How you can you be expected to understand and appriciate it all? Fair play to the people that do. But its way above my head (no pun intended)
That spot is as big as earth, get it now?Did they not teach you about space basics at school?Why do things get attracted to that then? Is the Gravity there slightly differen't? Have I just been a cock, ie, due to space there is no gravity or something. I really am a spacka when it comes to space things.
I used to think this is real, but it isnt is it? Id be dis respectful to embed it so I won't.
The bigger the object is, the more pressure it puts on the space time fabric, black holes are rips in the fabric and white holes are supposed to be the inverse... lemme make a drawing for you....
http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/4052/watzgb.jpg
At first I read 'What the hell is hard to understand' - So I ignored you.
Thats why I didnt realise you had editted your post. Your efforts in helping me understand are much appriciated and I have taken onboard some of what you have said as that was all I could understand. Thank you though.
Like 1927, I can't get my head around the sheer size of planets like Jupiter. tis mind blowing. like the 1,000+ Earths that can fit inside Jupiter or something? wtf? it's insane.
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The rock/minerals found on the moon during the 60's/70's were found to be pretty much identical to those found on Earth.1927 wrote:
The only reason I accepted that their were Dinos once when I was told as a little boy was the proof: Fossils and rock prints etc, how can you argue with that.Kmarion wrote:
They are theories based on evidence. Consider that these events happened billions of years ago. Earth and it's moon is unique in their relative size to each other. Our moon is large. Most moons (satellites) are simply objects that have gotten caught in the gravitational pull of it's host planet. They are small in comparison to the planets they orbit.Have you heard of the Nemesis Star theory? Technically it would be in our solar system .. but yea, theory.Reciprocity wrote:
the only object larger than jupiter in our solar system is the sun.
But how can the experts provide evidence of all this?
No I havent heard of Nemesis star theory. I did go and have a look at Wiki just now but didnt understand what they were on about other than the size of the star thing they were on about. In proportion its fucking huge.
Lol yeah, this stuff is beyond comprehension.Toilet Sex wrote:
Like 1927, I can't get my head around the sheer size of planets like Jupiter. tis mind blowing. like the 1,000+ Earths that can fit inside Jupiter or something? wtf? it's insane.
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No need to be an idiot and start trying to act smart about space time and shit. All you needed to say was Jupiter = large planet = more gravity. And then mention that Jupiter is also close to the Asteroid beltIoan92 wrote:
What the hell is hard to understand?1927 wrote:
What did he just say?
'This one blast cloud is the size of the Earth'.
Fucking hell no wonder I don't understand the solar system and all that. In fact I dont even like sci-fi.
And if I turn out like them ugly people crowded around the pc screen best I stay away from it aswell.
How you can you be expected to understand and appriciate it all? Fair play to the people that do. But its way above my head (no pun intended)
That spot is as big as earth, get it now?Did they not teach you about space basics at school?Why do things get attracted to that then? Is the Gravity there slightly differen't? Have I just been a cock, ie, due to space there is no gravity or something. I really am a spacka when it comes to space things.
I used to think this is real, but it isnt is it? Id be dis respectful to embed it so I won't.
The bigger the object is, the more pressure it puts on the space time fabric, black holes are rips in the fabric and white holes are supposed to be the inverse... lemme make a drawing for you....
http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/4052/watzgb.jpg
Simples
YOUR MUVVAAussieRepair wrote:
Meks mother?
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Good point Mek.Mekstizzle wrote:
No need to be an idiot and start trying to act smart about space time and shit. All you needed to say was Jupiter = large planet = more gravity. And then mention that Jupiter is also close to the Asteroid belt
Simples
I take back what I said earlier in this thread about your mother.
Well that is probably the stupidest thing I will see today. Thanks for that.Kmarion wrote:
The debris from the explosion orbited the Earth and eventually coagulated(sp). .. due to gravity.1927 wrote:
The Moon is perfectly round isnt it? Are you saying it was joined onto the earth, or it got split in half and you now got Moon and Earth? Why is the Moon perfectly round as if its been shaped and formed with the love that a carpenter could give a block of wood?Kmarion wrote:
The belt is left overs from the formation of our solar system. At one point is was very chaotic, celestial bodies slamming into each other like a pinball machine. Eventually things settled down and these objects began to orbit our sun.
Our moon was most likely formed by a mars sized impact with the earth.
Yes shooting star are meteors. Next month we should have a good show.
http://meteorshowersonline.com/perseids.html
Am I doing ya head in, I didnt mean to de rail your thread from the original bit, Im scrathing my head sat here trying to understand it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trdoc25q9wY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03P0MwwUAD8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNOY4sznKn8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TKq8yA66_A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kS4M_qzS1fc
What is?CrazeD wrote:
Well that is probably the stupidest thing I will see today. Thanks for that.Kmarion wrote:
The debris from the explosion orbited the Earth and eventually coagulated(sp). .. due to gravity.1927 wrote:
The Moon is perfectly round isnt it? Are you saying it was joined onto the earth, or it got split in half and you now got Moon and Earth? Why is the Moon perfectly round as if its been shaped and formed with the love that a carpenter could give a block of wood?
Am I doing ya head in, I didnt mean to de rail your thread from the original bit, Im scrathing my head sat here trying to understand it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trdoc25q9wY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03P0MwwUAD8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNOY4sznKn8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TKq8yA66_A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kS4M_qzS1fc
holy fucksticks!mcminty wrote:
Lol yeah, this stuff is beyond comprehension.Toilet Sex wrote:
Like 1927, I can't get my head around the sheer size of planets like Jupiter. tis mind blowing. like the 1,000+ Earths that can fit inside Jupiter or something? wtf? it's insane.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEheh1BH34Q
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I recall that the Nemisis theory says that the son has a red giant binary partner. And this binary partner causes the periodical mass extinctions by asteroid that seem to happen so regularly you could set your geological clock by it. The reason we can't find it with a telescope is because it orbits so far out and because it is a red giant, which is a very dim star.1927 wrote:
The only reason I accepted that their were Dinos once when I was told as a little boy was the proof: Fossils and rock prints etc, how can you argue with that.Kmarion wrote:
They are theories based on evidence. Consider that these events happened billions of years ago. Earth and it's moon is unique in their relative size to each other. Our moon is large. Most moons (satellites) are simply objects that have gotten caught in the gravitational pull of it's host planet. They are small in comparison to the planets they orbit.Have you heard of the Nemesis Star theory? Technically it would be in our solar system .. but yea, theory.Reciprocity wrote:
the only object larger than jupiter in our solar system is the sun.
But how can the experts provide evidence of all this?
No I havent heard of Nemesis star theory. I did go and have a look at Wiki just now but didnt understand what they were on about other than the size of the star thing they were on about. In proportion its fucking huge.
Fucking hell Mints, I was half way through that thinking ahhh now I get it, but I don't know. Cracking video though mate, the earth is tiny compared to some of those planets.mcminty wrote:
Lol yeah, this stuff is beyond comprehension.Toilet Sex wrote:
Like 1927, I can't get my head around the sheer size of planets like Jupiter. tis mind blowing. like the 1,000+ Earths that can fit inside Jupiter or something? wtf? it's insane.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEheh1BH34Q
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It missed out one planet though I think??
Tell me Minty, something Ive wanted to know for ages. How bigs Uranus?
What an amazing video, it makes me realise just how small and unimportant we are...mcminty wrote:
Lol yeah, this stuff is beyond comprehension.Toilet Sex wrote:
Like 1927, I can't get my head around the sheer size of planets like Jupiter. tis mind blowing. like the 1,000+ Earths that can fit inside Jupiter or something? wtf? it's insane.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEheh1BH34Q
:S
Thanks smartass. My point is (basically) the size of these things are amazing.mcminty wrote:
Lol yeah, this stuff is beyond comprehension.Toilet Sex wrote:
Like 1927, I can't get my head around the sheer size of planets like Jupiter. tis mind blowing. like the 1,000+ Earths that can fit inside Jupiter or something? wtf? it's insane.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEheh1BH34Q
:S
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