BF2S Forums Scientists Worry Machines May Outsmart Man

machines are nowhere near as complex as the human brain.  scientists and doctors still do not understand how our minds work, so how could they possibly create a machine that is more complex than the creator?  it's impossible... for example, something as simple as a scent can elicit very strong memories and emotions in people, with no two people having the same reaction to the same scent.  how could you program a robot to do that?  its not just a simple random expression either, our minds are formed by our unique experiences, and there is nothing random about our reaction.  it is impossible to program that sort of complexity into a AI system.  it just can't happen.  no matter what.  end of story.

now if you want to talk about the eventual marriage of biological life and machines, that's a whole different ballgame.  my prediction is more of a hybrid sort of AI, where existing organic lifeforms can be implanted with various technological devices or systems to further their own capabilities.  it's a known fact that humans do produce a small amount of electricity... harnessing that into an integrated computer system that, say for instance, gives you infrared vision ( ) is not altogether improbable. 

the article merely references how machines can be programmed to react to different situations like finding outlets or killing moving targets, but that is a simple programmed reflex.  the fact remains, humans will never be able to create a system as complex as the human brain with computer technology alone.

Last edited by steelie34 (2009-07-27 12:03:00)

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

Ioan92 wrote:

Mekstizzle wrote:

As they become more and more autonomous it's almost impossible to do that. Once we reach the stage of a fully autonomous robot the next point will be "right, now lets make it more powerful and better" as is natural with mankind, eventually that machine will reach and surpass the human brain. The point after that is what they call technological singularity. Where the machine can then redesign itself in ways unthinkable by man and basically just get exponentially more powerful. Or something like that.

Of course you could just program it to not do certain things, but then any such machine would really not be powerful if they wanted to make a machine as powerful as a human brain, which people do and will. It's something that's practically inevitable, IMO.

I'm no expert on all this, but that's what I think.

Machines will never be more intelligent than their designers. But they can have a learning mode, like terminators do.

That statement simply isn't true.  Making a statement then backing it up with an idea from a science fiction movie isn't the best way to prove your point.  Perhaps you could offer examples, reasoning and/or logic in explaining why you think the way you do.  The fact of the matter is that you can't.  Never underestimate the power of science and technology, and man's own misanthropic pursuits.

How can it not be true, how can a machine be more intelligent than its creator? That's nonsense.

We could be very intelligent and put all out minds together to create an AI that would almost never do any errors. But it still would not be brighter than the minds which created it, it would be on par.