Red Forman
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The EPA could give the Chevy Volt a 230 MPG rating

http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/08/11/th … pg-rating/

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,538902,00.html

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I don't even know what to say about that except I am going to buy one.

Last edited by Red Forman (2009-08-11 08:20:34)

M.O.A.B
'Light 'em up!'
+1,220|6643|Escea

https://www.automobilesreview.com/gallery/2009-chevrolet-autobots/jolt-chevrolet-volt-01.jpg

Its a transformer as well.
nickb64
formerly from OC (it's EXACTLY like on tv)[truth]
+77|6031|Greatest Nation on Earth(USA)
I think it looks like a POS...
Red Forman
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nickb64 wrote:

I think it looks like a POS...
who gives a shit.  its 230mpg ffs.  good lord you people.
Toilet Sex
one love, one pig
+1,775|6992

good news i guess if you give a shit about MPG

which i don't
nickb64
formerly from OC (it's EXACTLY like on tv)[truth]
+77|6031|Greatest Nation on Earth(USA)
Diesel Truck + Vegetable Oil "acquired" from local restaurants(so they don't have to dispose of it)=WIN!!!

I like trucks, lol...

That's why I think it looks like a POS
Scratch[USA]
Member
+105|6967
Compared to a Toyota prius it looks 10x better.  I wonder what the cost on it will be.
m3thod
All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz
+2,197|7091|UK
green weenie.

suppose you'll save load of money...even more if you've free charge stations.  I think they have them in Cali.

They got em in london, but how gay would you look getting out of this piece of shit.

https://www.cnet.co.uk/i/c/blg/cat/cartech/gwiz_charging.jpg

Last edited by m3thod (2009-08-11 10:09:17)

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Ultrafunkula
Hector: Ding, ding, ding, ding...
+1,975|6894|6 6 4 oh, I forget

Why the fuck do they have to make economical cars look like something Van Damme starred in...


WHY!?!?!?!?!
Bevo
Nah
+718|6941|Austin, Texas
Says only 40 miles on electric only.

Curious to see the acceleration on it as well.


If it does work out though, lol @ smartcar owners.
TSI
Cholera in the time of love
+247|6401|Toronto

Red Forman wrote:

nickb64 wrote:

I think it looks like a POS...
who gives a shit.  its 230mpg ffs.  good lord you people.
Downhill at 10 km/h with a tailwind. I've done 270.

You'll never be able to actually sustain 230 for more than a couple of minutes. And besides, the gas savings aren't really worth the higher price compared to "normal" cars in the segment.
I like pie.
nickb64
formerly from OC (it's EXACTLY like on tv)[truth]
+77|6031|Greatest Nation on Earth(USA)

m3thod wrote:

green weenie.

suppose you'll save load of money...even more if you've free charge stations.  I think they have them in Cali.
Costco has free charging stations in their parking lots usually here in Cali.
Red Forman
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TSI wrote:

Red Forman wrote:

nickb64 wrote:

I think it looks like a POS...
who gives a shit.  its 230mpg ffs.  good lord you people.
Downhill at 10 km/h with a tailwind. I've done 270.

You'll never be able to actually sustain 230 for more than a couple of minutes. And besides, the gas savings aren't really worth the higher price compared to "normal" cars in the segment.
wut?

the electricity alone is enough to get me to and from work everyday.  higher price?  do you know how much it costs?

Last edited by Red Forman (2009-08-11 10:46:13)

Ultrafunkula
Hector: Ding, ding, ding, ding...
+1,975|6894|6 6 4 oh, I forget

m3thod wrote:

green weenie.

suppose you'll save load of money...even more if you've free charge stations.  I think they have them in Cali.

They got em in london, but how gay would you look getting out of this piece of shit.

http://www.cnet.co.uk/i/c/blg/cat/carte … arging.jpg
Heh. Imagine Zed from Police Academy riding next to you yelling "That's cute. Where do you put the battery?!". That would happen.
ceslayer23
IN YOUR MIRROR
+142|6781|CLOSER THAN I APPEAR
The 4-passenger hatchback is expected to go on sale in late 2010 for approximately $40,000.
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6958|Long Island, New York
It looks kinda wonky but damn I'd buy one.

How much are they supposed to go for?
TSI
Cholera in the time of love
+247|6401|Toronto

Red Forman wrote:

TSI wrote:

Red Forman wrote:


who gives a shit.  its 230mpg ffs.  good lord you people.
Downhill at 10 km/h with a tailwind. I've done 270.

You'll never be able to actually sustain 230 for more than a couple of minutes. And besides, the gas savings aren't really worth the higher price compared to "normal" cars in the segment.
wut?

the electricity alone is enoguh to get me to and from work everyday.  higher price?  do you know how much it costs?
40 grand for a hatchback? You can get a similar sized Kia for half that, and it's loaded too.
I like pie.
Red Forman
Banned
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TSI wrote:

Red Forman wrote:

TSI wrote:


Downhill at 10 km/h with a tailwind. I've done 270.

You'll never be able to actually sustain 230 for more than a couple of minutes. And besides, the gas savings aren't really worth the higher price compared to "normal" cars in the segment.
wut?

the electricity alone is enoguh to get me to and from work everyday.  higher price?  do you know how much it costs?
40 grand for a hatchback? You can get a similar sized Kia for half that, and it's loaded too.
sigh...you know they will have more than one model.

and its about using no gas.  screw the haji.
DesertFox-
The very model of a modern major general
+796|7105|United States of America
You can only consider it as long as it doesn't drive like a "horrid eco-box". You need comparable acceleration and handling to our current models and a good MPG rating at normal driving speeds. It may do 230 at tickover with the no pressure on the gas pedal, but you want something that can have that at the way normal people drive, when not trying to be super-economical.
Red Forman
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I don't understand you guys.  Here is a car that the majority of people in the US can get to and from work/store/bar/etc without ever using a drop of gas and ya'll nit pick still.  Unreal.  All were hear is "zomg evil oil companies" and "zomg saudi this and that."  Well, here is the beginning stages of a real option and people just bash it.

Last edited by Red Forman (2009-08-11 11:14:35)

-CARNIFEX-[LOC]
Da Blooze
+111|7074

Red Forman wrote:

I don't understand you guys.  Here is a car that the majority of people in the US can get to and from work/store/bar/etc without ever using a drop of gas and ya'll nit pick still.  Unreal.  All were hear is "zomg evil oil companies" and "zomg saudi this and that."  Well, here is the beginning stages of a real option and people just bash it.
Well, I think it's pretty awesome that cars like this are now being produced.

What's sad, though, is that this all probably could've happened a while ago if the big car companies had really focused on it.  Then, by now, the technologies would have advanced to where you could be "green" while still having decent performance in terms of acceleration, handling, etc. (the Tesla cars sort of fit this bill, but imagine what they could do with 10 more years of development....)

But cars like this are a good start.

It's only a matter of time before even the naysayers will find themselves liking at least one type of economic, environmentally-sound vehicle...

Last edited by -CARNIFEX-[LOC] (2009-08-11 11:55:31)

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Roger Lesboules
Ah ben tabarnak!
+316|6997|Abitibi-Temiscamingue. Québec!

Red Forman wrote:

I don't understand you guys.  Here is a car that the majority of people in the US can get to and from work/store/bar/etc without ever using a drop of gas and ya'll nit pick still.  Unreal.  All were hear is "zomg evil oil companies" and "zomg saudi this and that."  Well, here is the beginning stages of a real option and people just bash it.
Yes, gas price is a bitch, but to ride a good ol car with that gas engine is just too good, the sound it make, the gas odor...that's what cars are all about! Those car, electric one are fantastic if you need to only move around town to go to work and such.
RDMC
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+736|6985|Area 51
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12.000 MPG! Fuck yeah!
VicktorVauhn
Member
+319|6812|Southern California

Red Forman wrote:

The EPA could give the Chevy Volt a 230 MPG rating
It was not immediately clear how GM reached the 230 mpg in city driving, but industry officials estimated the automaker's calculation took into consideration the Volt traveling 40 miles on the electric battery and then achieving about 50 mpg when the engine kicked in.
I am not at all against plug in vehicles.... But the 230 rating is pretty much a gimmick. The car does the first 40 miles purely as a plug in electric, and GM is exploiting that to artificially boost fuel efficient ratings.

By the same logic that rates the volt @ 230mpg, the Tesla gets infinite miles per gallon.
If you drive under 40 miles, there is no MPG rating because its not using gas. Once you cross that you are getting 50 mpg.
I like the system, its a good idea and apparently works well...

But the testing criteria used by GM is not even released. They can produce ANY MPG rating they want by manipulating the tests, they could drive 42 miles and only consume as much gas as is used in the last 2 miles of travel, then average that consumption over the trip distance and inflate their claims to what ever they want.

We will likely see this 230mpg rating plummet when the EPA releases a more realistic test criteria. And this current rating is likely based on tests designed to produce insane, but still believable numbers.

Last edited by VicktorVauhn (2009-08-11 17:31:02)

jsnipy
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Scratch[USA] wrote:

Compared to a Toyota prius it looks 10x better.  I wonder what the cost on it will be.
I heard around $40k in an NPR interview

Last edited by jsnipy (2009-08-11 17:40:20)

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