Jebus
Looking for my Scooper
+218|6024|Belgium
Just a question that popped in my mind..
I was wondering this



Today I was messing around with some EQ settings, and I must say, some music really sounded a lot better with an altered EQ. However, I've been listening to music/gaming/watching movies and whatever for my whole life on "standard EQ", for easiness, because really, I CBF changing EQ every time I listen to a different genre or do something else...


What do you do?
Simon
basically
+838|6918|UK
Should this be in the music section?
anyway i don't for the same reason as you. it's too much effort to change EQ for every song/genre
Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6457|Winland

The equalizer should be used to equalize the frequency response of your speakers, not 'enhance' the sound. That said, digital equalizers often add distortion, and apply really un-sharp filters.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|6967|67.222.138.85
See that's what I always thought it was for, but why do they always label the presets things like "rock" and "jazz"?
GC_PaNzerFIN
Work and study @ Technical Uni
+528|6674|Finland

Again, tell me one good reason to not use equalizer to make music sound the way I like it, but instead start doing what you said freezer.
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jsnipy
...
+3,277|6783|...

i pretty much know how any thread about sound/audio is going to turn out. It's actually getting kinda old.

ontopic: I don't leave it flat, i usually have one for headphones and one for speakers

Last edited by jsnipy (2009-09-20 10:38:38)

Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|6881|London, England
Yeah, I just found out that my AC97 thingy has different settings for the equaliser. For most tracks the "powerful" settings makes things sound much better on my headphones. Except for quieter/slower songs. But I rarely listen to those sort of songs anyway, find them too boring and emo.
Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6457|Winland

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

See that's what I always thought it was for, but why do they always label the presets things like "rock" and "jazz"?
To appeal to the masses.

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

Again, tell me one good reason to not use equalizer to make music sound the way I like it, but instead start doing what you said freezer.
Nothing prevents you from doing so, but that isn't what the purpose of an EQUALizer is.

Last edited by Freezer7Pro (2009-09-20 10:38:42)

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
jsnipy
...
+3,277|6783|...

Freezer7Pro wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

See that's what I always thought it was for, but why do they always label the presets things like "rock" and "jazz"?
To appeal to the masses.

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

Again, tell me one good reason to not use equalizer to make music sound the way I like it, but instead start doing what you said freezer.
Nothing prevents you from doing so, but that isn't what the purpose of an EQUALizer is.
Who cares seriously? Does this help the thread or provide anyone with any benefit?
Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6457|Winland

jsnipy wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

See that's what I always thought it was for, but why do they always label the presets things like "rock" and "jazz"?
To appeal to the masses.

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

Again, tell me one good reason to not use equalizer to make music sound the way I like it, but instead start doing what you said freezer.
Nothing prevents you from doing so, but that isn't what the purpose of an EQUALizer is.
Who cares seriously? Does this help the thread or provide anyone with any benefit?
It does. Isn't telling people who don't know what they're doing what they're doing beneficial? Your posts are the most unrelated ones in this thread.

Last edited by Freezer7Pro (2009-09-20 10:45:14)

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
ghettoperson
Member
+1,943|6909

I just leave it flat, I tend to find that I like the sound less than when it's set to eg 'rock'.
aimless
Member
+166|6385|Texas
Scoop up a little bass and a little treble in foobar2000 then hit the auto-level button.
Jenspm
penis
+1,716|6992|St. Andrews / Oslo

Freezer7Pro wrote:

jsnipy wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

See that's what I always thought it was for, but why do they always label the presets things like "rock" and "jazz"?
To appeal to the masses.

Nothing prevents you from doing so, but that isn't what the purpose of an EQUALizer is.
Who cares seriously? Does this help the thread or provide anyone with any benefit?
It does. Isn't telling people who don't know what they're doing what they're doing beneficial? Your posts are the most unrelated ones in this thread.
Actually, nobody cares.

You use the Equalizer to make the music sound how you like it best. End of.
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Hooch Pandersnatch
I like shoes
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No
TSI
Cholera in the time of love
+247|6241|Toronto
Yeah, I do. Every day, I want a different setting. Like OCD.
I like pie.
Defiance
Member
+438|6931

Jenspm wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

jsnipy wrote:

Who cares seriously? Does this help the thread or provide anyone with any benefit?
It does. Isn't telling people who don't know what they're doing what they're doing beneficial? Your posts are the most unrelated ones in this thread.
Actually, nobody cares.

You use the Equalizer to make the music sound how you like it best. End of.
You may use it to do that, but all that can be said is urdoinitrong.

If you want to jump down Freezer's throat for no other reason then that these audio threads generally end up in the gutter, keep your childish flaming out of the realm of arguing fact.

Davis, Don and Carolyn, Sound System Engineering, p141 - 151, First Edition 1975. wrote:

An equalization (EQ) filter is a filter, usually adjustable, chiefly meant to compensate for the unequal frequency response of some other signal processing circuit or system.

Ze Dictionary! wrote:

A tone control system designed to compensate for frequency distortion in audio systems.

Last edited by Defiance (2009-09-20 14:06:09)

liquidat0r
wtf.
+2,223|6887|UK
Depends how deep I go underwater. Down to 4 meters doesn't really require any equalizing

I wouldn't say that I use the equalizer as such but I presume turning the volume of my sub-woofer up and down has a similar sort of effect.

In that I could if, I wanted to, use the equaliser to boost the lower frequencies.
jsnipy
...
+3,277|6783|...

Defiance wrote:

Jenspm wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

It does. Isn't telling people who don't know what they're doing what they're doing beneficial? Your posts are the most unrelated ones in this thread.
Actually, nobody cares.

You use the Equalizer to make the music sound how you like it best. End of.
You may use it to do that, but all that can be said is urdoinitrong.

If you want to jump down Freezer's throat for no other reason then that these audio threads generally end up in the gutter, keep your childish flaming out of the realm of arguing fact.

Davis, Don and Carolyn, Sound System Engineering, p141 - 151, First Edition 1975. wrote:

An equalization (EQ) filter is a filter, usually adjustable, chiefly meant to compensate for the unequal frequency response of some other signal processing circuit or system.

Ze Dictionary! wrote:

A tone control system designed to compensate for frequency distortion in audio systems.
No one is disputing facts, Freezer clearly has devoted a lot of time in the realm of audio and has become quite knowledgeable (so your "ze googling!" is making a moot point). It is just that time after time posts made by users asking questions or making surveys on audio topics get skewed and contorted into these goofy arguments, which become a distraction. But thanks for your interjection .
Jenspm
penis
+1,716|6992|St. Andrews / Oslo

Defiance wrote:

Jenspm wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:


It does. Isn't telling people who don't know what they're doing what they're doing beneficial? Your posts are the most unrelated ones in this thread.
Actually, nobody cares.

You use the Equalizer to make the music sound how you like it best. End of.
You may use it to do that, but all that can be said is urdoinitrong.

If you want to jump down Freezer's throat for no other reason then that these audio threads generally end up in the gutter, keep your childish flaming out of the realm of arguing fact.

Davis, Don and Carolyn, Sound System Engineering, p141 - 151, First Edition 1975. wrote:

An equalization (EQ) filter is a filter, usually adjustable, chiefly meant to compensate for the unequal frequency response of some other signal processing circuit or system.

Ze Dictionary! wrote:

A tone control system designed to compensate for frequency distortion in audio systems.
Actually, THIS is why these audio threads always go down the shitter.

The stuff you quoted pretty much say that you fiddle with the EQ to compensate for distorion in your speakers. Thus making it sound better, thus making the music sound nice, thus making the music sound how you WANT it to sound.

I dunno about you, but I assume most people want their music to sound how they like it best, not what some frequency graph tells them.
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Defiance
Member
+438|6931

Jenspm wrote:

Actually, THIS is why these audio threads always go down the shitter.

The stuff you quoted pretty much say that you fiddle with the EQ to compensate for distorion in your speakers. Thus making it sound better, thus making the music sound nice, thus making the music sound how you WANT it to sound.

I dunno about you, but I assume most people want their music to sound how they like it best, not what some frequency graph tells them.
Imagine reading a book and swapping out words that you don't like. Imagine a publisher prints a book, but puts a blur on all the letters.

If an artist records a track to sound a certain way, I want to hear it the way they created it. "If I have seen farther than others, it is because I was standing on the shoulders of giants." The most fundamental lesson in musical education is learning from those before you.
If the sound engineer is instructed to compress the volume so that the track sounds better over flash apps and crappy internal system speakers, I'm not going to pay for that crap.

I couldn't care less that what I hear is more or less accurate to the wave form, but it implies a more accurate translation from creation to observation.
.Sup
be nice
+2,646|6713|The Twilight Zone
no
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Peter
Super Awesome Member
+494|6662|dm_maidenhead

Defiance wrote:

Jenspm wrote:

Actually, THIS is why these audio threads always go down the shitter.

The stuff you quoted pretty much say that you fiddle with the EQ to compensate for distorion in your speakers. Thus making it sound better, thus making the music sound nice, thus making the music sound how you WANT it to sound.

I dunno about you, but I assume most people want their music to sound how they like it best, not what some frequency graph tells them.
Imagine reading a book and swapping out words that you don't like. Imagine a publisher prints a book, but puts a blur on all the letters.

If an artist records a track to sound a certain way, I want to hear it the way they created it. "If I have seen farther than others, it is because I was standing on the shoulders of giants." The most fundamental lesson in musical education is learning from those before you.
If the sound engineer is instructed to compress the volume so that the track sounds better over flash apps and crappy internal system speakers, I'm not going to pay for that crap.

I couldn't care less that what I hear is more or less accurate to the wave form, but it implies a more accurate translation from creation to observation.
What if we don't want listening to music to be a chore?
Hakei
Banned
+295|6255
I listen to 32kb/s songs that I stream out of my on board sound card through a paper cup.
liquidat0r
wtf.
+2,223|6887|UK
But Peter, what he's saying is that he thinks music should be listened to in it's "true" form, as intended by the producer. i.e. not changing any equaliser settings.

Or did I mis-interpret?
Peter
Super Awesome Member
+494|6662|dm_maidenhead

Hakei wrote:

I listen to 32kb/s songs that I stream out of my on board sound card through a paper cup.
Does your EQ match your paper cup?

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