GC_PaNzerFIN
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I am here.

Whats the question? (cba to read it all, its 4am after all).
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Ilocano
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GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

I am here.

Whats the question? (cba to read it all, its 4am after all).
  Rate the 4500MHD.
GC_PaNzerFIN
Work and study @ Technical Uni
+528|6850|Finland

Ilocano wrote:

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

I am here.

Whats the question? (cba to read it all, its 4am after all).
  Rate the 4500MHD.
easy.

its slow as fuck.

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Grap … 883.0.html
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Kmar
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Ilocano wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

I said except for the GPU.
This is NOT BF prices.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Gateway+-+L … Id=9548661

That would handle most games easily, resolution certainly wouldn't be a problem, it is a bigger screen, it has a faster processor, HDMI out, more storage. If you can find what I posted for $200-300 show me. I'd definitely think about getting one.

Two weeks isn't that long to wait. I expect a significant price drop that would make new machines comparable to your refurbished ones.
Yes, tech prices always drop as new technology shows up.  But dedicated GPU has always been premium priced for lappies.  That Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator 4500MHD won't play most  games easily at your 17.3" resolution at medium or higher settings.  Going from 2.1 to 2.2 is insignificant.  Storage isn't an issue since it's easy to upgrade.  What you can't change is the graphics card or the screen.  You might be able to change the CPU.

What you noted isn't bad, really, since gaming isn't a concern.  But trust me, gut feeling, if you are even remotely considering current gen PC gaming, you'll need more than that 4500MHD.

Panzer, where are you?
http://pcgamingcorner.com/wordpress/?p=820
Seems like it would be good enough. (Especially since gaming isn't a primary use.)

Remember this isn't a BF deal. A handful of insignificant things add up to significance. I can not predict what they will be. However, I know enough to know that with BF being weeks away it is definitely worth the wait.
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GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

easy.

its slow as fuck.
uh, Panzer - can we get a different example please? i like 'em slow. but yeah . .
=NHB=Shadow
hi
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I definitely PROBABLY won't be gaming at all, i'll be focused on my studies and sexing the college girls
Hi Panzer, recommended me a decent laptop for web surfing/school work , if its a european one, i'll try to find the american equivalent.
GC_PaNzerFIN
Work and study @ Technical Uni
+528|6850|Finland

=NHB=Shadow wrote:

I definitely PROBABLY won't be gaming at all, i'll be focused on my studies and sexing the college girls
Hi Panzer, recommended me a decent laptop for web surfing/school work , if its a european one, i'll try to find the american equivalent.
Look around local lenovo stocks. They have by far best work laptops. 

SL500 maybe?
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Ilocano
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Kmarion wrote:

http://pcgamingcorner.com/wordpress/?p=820
Seems like it would be good enough. (Especially since gaming isn't a primary use.)

Remember this isn't a BF deal. A handful of insignificant things add up to significance. I can not predict what they will be. However, I know enough to know that with BF being weeks away it is definitely worth the wait.
Read your linked article.  It's horrible for the sampled game list save for CS:Source.
Kmar
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Ilocano wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

http://pcgamingcorner.com/wordpress/?p=820
Seems like it would be good enough. (Especially since gaming isn't a primary use.)

Remember this isn't a BF deal. A handful of insignificant things add up to significance. I can not predict what they will be. However, I know enough to know that with BF being weeks away it is definitely worth the wait.
Read your linked article.  It's horrible for the sampled game list save for CS:Source.
Good for what he wants.. you're basing everything on one single component.. which is actually not significant to him.

=NHB=Shadow wrote:

I definitely PROBABLY won't be gaming at all, i'll be focused on my studies and sexing the college girls
Hi Panzer, recommended me a decent laptop for web surfing/school work , if its a european one, i'll try to find the american equivalent.
Smart man.

chuyskywalker wrote:

Laptops are plain not fun for gaming. Period. I don't care what anyone tells you, they are liars or extremely fortunate.


Don't be an idiot Shadow.. check out whats around the corner. That is all I'm saying.
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GC_PaNzerFIN
Work and study @ Technical Uni
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All games they tried were unplayable in the 4500MDH review. Conclusion = don't even think about trying newer games with it.

It is nice for movies and 2D work with its low power consumptions. But if gaming is close to heart look away.
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=NHB=Shadow
hi
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Okay i'll look at Lenovo's i'll probably start first at Newegg lol.
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GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

All games they tried were unplayable in the 4500MDH review. Conclusion = don't even think about trying newer games with it.

It is nice for movies and 2D work with its low power consumptions. But if gaming is close to heart look away.

benchmarks wrote:

Crysis Warhead (2008)
low:
0.8 FPS
Freezer7Pro
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mcminty wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

TSI wrote:


Nah. I pay more to get better sound. The specs are a measure of that sound, not its genesis.
If you know how to read them, and you have enough of them, you can find out exactly how a system sounds just by looking at numbers. Music isn't anything more than a bunch of harmonics playing together, there's nothing magical about it.
But those numbers tell you nothing of the room you are going to put the speakers in..
They do, if you have the dimensions of it.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
Ilocano
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=NHB=Shadow wrote:

Okay i'll look at Lenovo's i'll probably start first at Newegg lol.
Truth be told, considering that it'll be a campus laptop, I'd get one that you wouldn't feel so bad about losing.  Laptops often get stolen in campus.  Looks for something in the $300 range that will get you by for schoolwork and Internet.
Kmar
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Google gifting free airport WiFi for the holidays

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http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/10/goog … -holidays/
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ghettoperson
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Freezer7Pro wrote:

mcminty wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:


If you know how to read them, and you have enough of them, you can find out exactly how a system sounds just by looking at numbers. Music isn't anything more than a bunch of harmonics playing together, there's nothing magical about it.
But those numbers tell you nothing of the room you are going to put the speakers in..
They do, if you have the dimensions of it.
I thought you actually knew stuff about audio, but apparently not...
Freezer7Pro
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ghettoperson wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

mcminty wrote:

But those numbers tell you nothing of the room you are going to put the speakers in..
They do, if you have the dimensions of it.
I thought you actually knew stuff about audio, but apparently not...
If you know the dimensions and materials, you can calculate the absorption coefficient, room modes, flutter echoes, and so on. If you know that and some very detailed characteristics of the speaker(s) in question, you can calculate the exact 'sound' you'll get at any given spot in the room. Of course, it's far easier to just measure, but it is most definitely possible to calculate, too.

Last edited by Freezer7Pro (2009-11-10 04:20:06)

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
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Freezer7Pro wrote:

ghettoperson wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:


They do, if you have the dimensions of it.
I thought you actually knew stuff about audio, but apparently not...
If you know the dimensions and materials, you can calculate the absorption coefficient, room modes, flutter echoes, and so on. If you know that and some very detailed characteristics of the speaker(s) in question, you can calculate the exact 'sound' you'll get at any given spot in the room. Of course, it's far easier to just measure, but it is most definitely possible to calculate, too.
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ghettoperson
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Freezer7Pro wrote:

ghettoperson wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:


They do, if you have the dimensions of it.
I thought you actually knew stuff about audio, but apparently not...
If you know the dimensions and materials, you can calculate the absorption coefficient, room modes, flutter echoes, and so on. If you know that and some very detailed characteristics of the speaker(s) in question, you can calculate the exact 'sound' you'll get at any given spot in the room. Of course, it's far easier to just measure, but it is most definitely possible to calculate, too.
Fair enough, I was going to say, what you have in the room is going to make a lot more difference as to how it sounds than the size. But in any case, I hardly think measuring the coefficient of your carpet is a realistic idea so you know how it's going to sound.
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ghettoperson wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

ghettoperson wrote:


I thought you actually knew stuff about audio, but apparently not...
If you know the dimensions and materials, you can calculate the absorption coefficient, room modes, flutter echoes, and so on. If you know that and some very detailed characteristics of the speaker(s) in question, you can calculate the exact 'sound' you'll get at any given spot in the room. Of course, it's far easier to just measure, but it is most definitely possible to calculate, too.
Fair enough, I was going to say, what you have in the room is going to make a lot more difference as to how it sounds than the size. But in any case, I hardly think measuring the coefficient of your carpet is a realistic idea so you know how it's going to sound.
Your standard rug has an absorption coefficient of about 0.3 at 2kHz
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
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Sooo ... I'm thinking of changing my MoBo, GPU and CPU and haven't been paying much attention to what brands and stuff that are groovy as of late ...

What recomendations do you guys have concerning MoBo chipsets and matching equipment ... would say the medium to medium/high price range ... am considering just buying a new PCI express GPU, my current CPU and MoBo is 939 (roughly 4 years old)
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ghettoperson
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Freezer7Pro wrote:

ghettoperson wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:


If you know the dimensions and materials, you can calculate the absorption coefficient, room modes, flutter echoes, and so on. If you know that and some very detailed characteristics of the speaker(s) in question, you can calculate the exact 'sound' you'll get at any given spot in the room. Of course, it's far easier to just measure, but it is most definitely possible to calculate, too.
Fair enough, I was going to say, what you have in the room is going to make a lot more difference as to how it sounds than the size. But in any case, I hardly think measuring the coefficient of your carpet is a realistic idea so you know how it's going to sound.
Your standard rug has an absorption coefficient of about 0.3 at 2kHz
So are you saying you do this when you buy hifi stuff? And do you take into account the random bits of PCB you have lying around?
Freezer7Pro
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ghettoperson wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

ghettoperson wrote:


Fair enough, I was going to say, what you have in the room is going to make a lot more difference as to how it sounds than the size. But in any case, I hardly think measuring the coefficient of your carpet is a realistic idea so you know how it's going to sound.
Your standard rug has an absorption coefficient of about 0.3 at 2kHz
So are you saying you do this when you buy hifi stuff? And do you take into account the random bits of PCB you have lying around?
I ask when I buy the rug.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
TSI
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Freezer7Pro wrote:

ghettoperson wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:


They do, if you have the dimensions of it.
I thought you actually knew stuff about audio, but apparently not...
If you know the dimensions and materials, you can calculate the absorption coefficient, room modes, flutter echoes, and so on. If you know that and some very detailed characteristics of the speaker(s) in question, you can calculate the exact 'sound' you'll get at any given spot in the room. Of course, it's far easier to just measure, but it is most definitely possible to calculate, too.
I'd consider that a waste of my time. Why do you care how it sounds like, so long as it sounds good to you?

To determine quality, are you listening to the sound or are you looking at the numbers?
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Varegg wrote:

Sooo ... I'm thinking of changing my MoBo, GPU and CPU and haven't been paying much attention to what brands and stuff that are groovy as of late ...

What recomendations do you guys have concerning MoBo chipsets and matching equipment ... would say the medium to medium/high price range ... am considering just buying a new PCI express GPU, my current CPU and MoBo is 939 (roughly 4 years old)
i5, 4870 or 4890, not sure about mobo.
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