Bevo
Nah
+718|6786|Austin, Texas
uzi what are your thoughts on the theory that nobody is completely male or female

im not talking hormones, but on a more genetic level that we all reside on a slider of sorts - with your "menly men" being far left and people like dauntless hovering over the middle area, and womanly women on the far right?
Red Forman
Banned
+402|5666
/facedesk
JakAttaK
csanva<3
+492|6591|England
Night bf2s
Bevo
Nah
+718|6786|Austin, Texas

Red Forman wrote:

/facedesk
people used to think the earth was flat
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6736

Bevo wrote:

uzi what are your thoughts on the theory that nobody is completely male or female

im not talking hormones, but on a more genetic level that we all reside on a slider of sorts - with your "menly men" being far left and people like dauntless hovering over the middle area, and womanly women on the far right?
i dunno but i definitely agree with the theory that dauntless is hovering ambiguously over the "middle area"
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Dauntless
Admin
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KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
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Bevo wrote:

uzi what are your thoughts on the theory that nobody is completely male or female

im not talking hormones, but on a more genetic level that we all reside on a slider of sorts - with your "menly men" being far left and people like dauntless hovering over the middle area, and womanly women on the far right?
Male = xx
female = xy

That's pretty much as basic as you can get.
liquidat0r
wtf.
+2,223|6893|UK

Bevo wrote:

Red Forman wrote:

/facedesk
people used to think the earth was flat
Some thought it was spherical, too.

Bevo wrote:

uzi what are your thoughts on the theory that nobody is completely male or female

im not talking hormones, but on a more genetic level that we all reside on a slider of sorts - with your "menly men" being far left and people like dauntless hovering over the middle area, and womanly women on the far right?
I remember reading about the idea of a third chromosone determining sexuality, or rather: How masculine a male is, or how femininine a female is, potentially resulting in feminine males and masculine females. Could have been bull shit (sounds like it to me), and no idea where I read it.
Bevo
Nah
+718|6786|Austin, Texas

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

Bevo wrote:

uzi what are your thoughts on the theory that nobody is completely male or female

im not talking hormones, but on a more genetic level that we all reside on a slider of sorts - with your "menly men" being far left and people like dauntless hovering over the middle area, and womanly women on the far right?
Male = xx
female = xy

That's pretty much as basic as you can get.
gravity = 9.81ms^-2

it's easy to assign a number or variable that works for our current parameters, but gravity has proven to be "not exactly that simple" and gender may not be either.
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6736
ive read a lot on the philosophical and psychological ideas of sexuality... can't comment on the concrete biology of it, though.

there is a psychoanalytic notion that a newborn child, for the first significant stages of its life, is essentially asexual. not even a case of nature vs. nurture... there is a tabula rasa in the very beginning and the individual has no concept of masculinity or femininity at all, regardless of sexual organs or genetics. i suppose there's some credibility in that. after all, it is the human condition that divides us between male and female, more than the straight practicalities of physiognomy.
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Red Forman
Banned
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pi squared times the velocity of the earths rotation equals poop

Last edited by Red Forman (2009-11-09 16:52:01)

KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
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Bevo wrote:

gravity = 9.81ms^-2

it's easy to assign a number or variable that works for our current parameters, but gravity has proven to be "not exactly that simple" and gender may not be either.
The variables are what you eliminated in your question - hormones.  Hormones balance how masculine and feminine people are.  From a biological perspective there is a concrete definition - xx or xy.  From a psychosocial perspective, hormones and current social definitions of gender determine how much of a male or female someone is.

Surely there could be genetic sets that regulate the amount of hormones a person produces or even is likely to produce, but that is genetics playing on the hormones themselves, not genetics manipulating the xx or xy base or even genetics acting against outside forces not related to hormones.
Red Forman
Banned
+402|5666

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

Bevo wrote:

gravity = 9.81ms^-2

it's easy to assign a number or variable that works for our current parameters, but gravity has proven to be "not exactly that simple" and gender may not be either.
The variables are what you eliminated in your question - hormones.  Hormones balance how masculine and feminine people are.  From a biological perspective there is a concrete definition - xx or xy.  From a psychosocial perspective, hormones and current social definitions of gender determine how much of a male or female someone is.
D's
Bevo
Nah
+718|6786|Austin, Texas
I'm not saying it isn't, I'm saying that some things aren't as simple as they appear or are made to appear.
mtb0minime
minimember
+2,418|6920

You're all gay and that's that. /thread

Bevo wrote:

I'm not saying it isn't, I'm saying that some things aren't as simple as they appear or are made to appear.
is there something you are trying to tell us about yourself?
Red Forman
Banned
+402|5666

mtb0minime wrote:

You're all gay and that's that. /thread
1stSFOD-Delta
Mike "The Spooge Gobbler" Morales
+376|6244|Blue Mountain State
eh
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Baba Booey
=NHB=Shadow
hi
+322|6631|California

Red Forman wrote:

mtb0minime wrote:

You're all gay and that's that. /thread
this forums is full of gays, therefore we all love each other
Dauntless
Admin
+2,249|7008|London

Red Forman wrote:

D's
??????
https://imgur.com/kXTNQ8D.png
Red Forman
Banned
+402|5666

=NHB=Shadow wrote:

Red Forman wrote:

mtb0minime wrote:

You're all gay and that's that. /thread
this forums is full of gays, therefore we all love each other
yes but there is gay and GAY
1stSFOD-Delta
Mike "The Spooge Gobbler" Morales
+376|6244|Blue Mountain State
throw some d's on that ho
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Baba Booey
Dauntless
Admin
+2,249|7008|London

and then there's GAAAAAAAAAAYYYYY

what is a D's?
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1stSFOD-Delta
Mike "The Spooge Gobbler" Morales
+376|6244|Blue Mountain State
donk
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Baba Booey
Red Forman
Banned
+402|5666

Dauntless wrote:

Red Forman wrote:

D's
??????
D's nuts, bitch

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