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Cybargs wrote:

CrazeD wrote:

http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2009/08/7-reasons-to-avoid-windows-7/

At first I was like, wow this guy is a dumbass.

Then I read this, and it all became clear:

...but from my own perspective as a long-time Mac user,
http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2009/08/ … n-reasons/

He wrote that two days before.
"For example, if you’re a legitimate buyer purchasing movies off iTunes, you can easily stream your media to your legitimately purchased Apple TV. If you’re a pirate, you’d have to go through roundabout programs and hardware to re-create the experience."

CrazeD
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GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

CrazeD wrote:

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

I am using both Vista x64 Ultimate and Win 7 x64 Ultimate and quite frankly I cannot tell shit difference apart from 7 looking more transparent (glass like).
Because your hardware more than compensates for the shittyness of Vista.
Vista is by far most stable Windows I have ever used, not once has it BSOD'd in these years. And I have used heck lot of Windows'es.
lol, you are very biased then. I dunno why you are so stubborn when it comes to Vista. Vista is most definitely not the most stable version of Windows.
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CrazeD wrote:

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

CrazeD wrote:


Because your hardware more than compensates for the shittyness of Vista.
Vista is by far most stable Windows I have ever used, not once has it BSOD'd in these years. And I have used heck lot of Windows'es.
lol, you are very biased then. I dunno why you are so stubborn when it comes to Vista. Vista is most definitely not the most stable version of Windows.
It is a very stable version though.  I've had very little problems and most were due to overclocking so those don't really count.  Most issues with any version of windows (that i've seen) are either user errors or driver issues, neither of which is a windows problem.
GC_PaNzerFIN
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CrazeD wrote:

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

CrazeD wrote:


Because your hardware more than compensates for the shittyness of Vista.
Vista is by far most stable Windows I have ever used, not once has it BSOD'd in these years. And I have used heck lot of Windows'es.
lol, you are very biased then. I dunno why you are so stubborn when it comes to Vista. Vista is most definitely not the most stable version of Windows.
I am very biased? Do I fucking work for MS? I have used MS operating systems since DOS, but Vista has not BSOD'd once. Now please tell me how can you be more stable than rock solid?

I am stubborn because I don't want ppl put words in my mouth and I don't talk shit when it is not so.
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CrazeD wrote:

FUD.
There, fixed.
My state was founded by Batman. Your opinion is invalid.
mcminty
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Why is this still in EE. Morelike tech..

The first thing that strikes me is how old the blog is. 20th August. When did Win7 come out?

burnzz wrote:

we use Dell 'craptops', pre-installed with XP. 40% of the programs we use won't run on Vista (mostly hydrology and structures stuff).
we have one Dell workstation with 24gb ram, dual xeon procs, nVidia 1.5gb Qudro fx. built for a particular surveying 3d modeler.
and three Macs.

STFU with your 'stability' this or that, you have no real world experience. the Macs are for what they do - every adobe program runs flawlessly on them.

it's getting old, the way people use "absolute pronouncements" and claim to be the authority on all things all things.
While I would agree on things like Lightroom, Photoshop, etc.. Adobe seem to have epically failed at coding flash. Not only are the left/right click on youtube videos still inverted, but a single video chews up enough processor power to get my macbook's fans running at full speed.
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CrazeD wrote:

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

CrazeD wrote:


Because your hardware more than compensates for the shittyness of Vista.
Vista is by far most stable Windows I have ever used, not once has it BSOD'd in these years. And I have used heck lot of Windows'es.
lol, you are very biased then. I dunno why you are so stubborn when it comes to Vista. Vista is most definitely not the most stable version of Windows.
No, he is not. Vista is incredibly stable, especially compared to XP. I ran Vista for a year without formatting on my laptop (a 1.83GHz C2D with 2GB RAM, on which it ran very smoothly). During that year, I experienced one bluescreen on it, and that was due to the WLAN card getting knocked out of its slot.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
.Sup
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Freezer7Pro wrote:

CrazeD wrote:

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:


Vista is by far most stable Windows I have ever used, not once has it BSOD'd in these years. And I have used heck lot of Windows'es.
lol, you are very biased then. I dunno why you are so stubborn when it comes to Vista. Vista is most definitely not the most stable version of Windows.
No, he is not. Vista is incredibly stable, especially compared to XP. I ran Vista for a year without formatting on my laptop (a 1.83GHz C2D with 2GB RAM, on which it ran very smoothly). During that year, I experienced one bluescreen on it, and that was due to the WLAN card getting knocked out of its slot.
Could say the same for XP for the past 5 years. I'll talk to you in 4 years.
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lawl.

If you want everybody to have the same computer experience, go buy a mac.

Of course people will have different experiences with Windows, 1) they're running different hardware 2) they're running different software (i.e. widowblinds, ultramon, etc. etc.) 3) They have a different user style.
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.Sup wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

CrazeD wrote:


lol, you are very biased then. I dunno why you are so stubborn when it comes to Vista. Vista is most definitely not the most stable version of Windows.
No, he is not. Vista is incredibly stable, especially compared to XP. I ran Vista for a year without formatting on my laptop (a 1.83GHz C2D with 2GB RAM, on which it ran very smoothly). During that year, I experienced one bluescreen on it, and that was due to the WLAN card getting knocked out of its slot.
Could say the same for XP for the past 5 years. I'll talk to you in 4 years.
You've had the same computer for five years?!
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
.Sup
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Freezer7Pro wrote:

.Sup wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:


No, he is not. Vista is incredibly stable, especially compared to XP. I ran Vista for a year without formatting on my laptop (a 1.83GHz C2D with 2GB RAM, on which it ran very smoothly). During that year, I experienced one bluescreen on it, and that was due to the WLAN card getting knocked out of its slot.
Could say the same for XP for the past 5 years. I'll talk to you in 4 years.
You've had the same computer for five years?!
Still have it. More than one.
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.Sup wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

.Sup wrote:


Could say the same for XP for the past 5 years. I'll talk to you in 4 years.
You've had the same computer for five years?!
Still have it. More than one.
Now I'd like to know why you haven't reformatted in all that time.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
.Sup
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Freezer7Pro wrote:

.Sup wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:


You've had the same computer for five years?!
Still have it. More than one.
Now I'd like to know why you haven't reformatted in all that time.
Because its an HTPC. I don't install stuff on it cept for audio, video players, other multimedia related, etc.. And the other one is just old, I stopped using it couple months ago when hardware started to fail.
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.Sup wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

.Sup wrote:


Still have it. More than one.
Now I'd like to know why you haven't reformatted in all that time.
Because its an HTPC. I don't install stuff on it cept for audio, video players, other multimedia related, etc.. And the other one is just old, I stopped using it couple months ago when hardware started to fail.
Ah. That's quite another thing than using a computer for more everyday stuff.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
CrazeD
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GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

CrazeD wrote:

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

Vista is by far most stable Windows I have ever used, not once has it BSOD'd in these years. And I have used heck lot of Windows'es.
lol, you are very biased then. I dunno why you are so stubborn when it comes to Vista. Vista is most definitely not the most stable version of Windows.
I am very biased? Do I fucking work for MS? I have used MS operating systems since DOS, but Vista has not BSOD'd once. Now please tell me how can you be more stable than rock solid?

I am stubborn because I don't want ppl put words in my mouth and I don't talk shit when it is not so.
Since when does stability revolve around BSOD's? Most of the time BSOD's are hardware faults.

EDIT:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

CrazeD wrote:

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:


Vista is by far most stable Windows I have ever used, not once has it BSOD'd in these years. And I have used heck lot of Windows'es.
lol, you are very biased then. I dunno why you are so stubborn when it comes to Vista. Vista is most definitely not the most stable version of Windows.
No, he is not. Vista is incredibly stable, especially compared to XP. I ran Vista for a year without formatting on my laptop (a 1.83GHz C2D with 2GB RAM, on which it ran very smoothly). During that year, I experienced one bluescreen on it, and that was due to the WLAN card getting knocked out of its slot.
Once again, who gives a shit about BSOD's? My XP never BSOD's either. Big deal.

Last edited by CrazeD (2009-11-28 13:57:55)

Bertster7
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Vista and 7 are more stable than XP. They're sometimes a bit buggy and bloated, but they're more stable.

CrazeD wrote:

Since when does stability revolve around BSOD's?
Stability is about the computer managing not to crash. BSODs are the computer crashing. Fewer BSODs mean greater stability - more or less.

Last edited by Bertster7 (2009-11-28 15:03:18)

.Sup
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Bertster7 wrote:

Vista and 7 are more stable than XP. They're sometimes a bit buggy and bloated, but they're more stable.

CrazeD wrote:

Since when does stability revolve around BSOD's?
Stability is about the computer managing not to crash. BSODs are the computer crashing. Fewer BSODs mean greater stability - more or less.
On who's opinion is this based? So if you have gotten less BSOD's on Vista than XP that means XP is less stable in general or just your install and driver corruption combo is unstable?
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.Sup wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

Vista and 7 are more stable than XP. They're sometimes a bit buggy and bloated, but they're more stable.

CrazeD wrote:

Since when does stability revolve around BSOD's?
Stability is about the computer managing not to crash. BSODs are the computer crashing. Fewer BSODs mean greater stability - more or less.
On who's opinion is this based? So if you have gotten less BSOD's on Vista than XP that means XP is less stable in general or just your install and driver corruption combo is unstable?
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CrazeD
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Bertster7 wrote:

Vista and 7 are more stable than XP. They're sometimes a bit buggy and bloated, but they're more stable.
If stability is based on how many BSOD's you get, then there isn't any difference at all...seeings I never get BSOD's no matter what OS I'm on. Because my hardware is stable. Most BSOD's are hardware related, not software.

I like Vista, but I'm also aware that it's shitty.
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CrazeD wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

Vista and 7 are more stable than XP. They're sometimes a bit buggy and bloated, but they're more stable.
If stability is based on how many BSOD's you get, then there isn't any difference at all...seeings I never get BSOD's no matter what OS I'm on. Because my hardware is stable. Most BSOD's are hardware related, not software.

I like Vista, but I'm also aware that it's shitty.
You are misinformed.
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.Sup wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

Vista and 7 are more stable than XP. They're sometimes a bit buggy and bloated, but they're more stable.

CrazeD wrote:

Since when does stability revolve around BSOD's?
Stability is about the computer managing not to crash. BSODs are the computer crashing. Fewer BSODs mean greater stability - more or less.
...your install and driver corruption combo is unstable?
That's one of the things where Vista/7 rock. If your hellishly unstable Nvidia drivers crash, you just get a black screen for a couple of seconds, followed by a popup saying the driver crashed. Compared to XP, which simply gives you a blue screen, I think that's quite a bit better.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
GC_PaNzerFIN
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Nforce chipset motherboards should all be killed with fire. There is no ending to stability issues with them. Intel chipsets FTW and back to enjoying stability.
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.Sup
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Freezer7Pro wrote:

.Sup wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

Vista and 7 are more stable than XP. They're sometimes a bit buggy and bloated, but they're more stable.


Stability is about the computer managing not to crash. BSODs are the computer crashing. Fewer BSODs mean greater stability - more or less.
...your install and driver corruption combo is unstable?
That's one of the things where Vista/7 rock. If your hellishly unstable Nvidia drivers crash, you just get a black screen for a couple of seconds, followed by a popup saying the driver crashed. Compared to XP, which simply gives you a blue screen, I think that's quite a bit better.
I've gotten a couple of blue screens in 7. But I agree when driver "only" crashes that you don't have to restart.
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GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

Nforce chipset motherboards should all be killed with fire. There is no ending to stability issues with them. Intel chipsets FTW and back to enjoying stability.
I completely agree, i was glad to be rid of mine

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