Need new speakers/sound system.

2010-01-15 04:04:17

#101

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6456|Winland

.Sup wrote:
Freezer7Pro wrote:
.Sup wrote:

I laugh every time you mention specs. I think hifi choice wrote a review about the Streemer.
Right. And I assume cryogenically treated cables improve sound too.

Let's not turn this into one of those threads.
Never heard those and never intend to as they cost several thousand dollars. They have amazing specs, you would like them.

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The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

2010-01-15 05:16:36

#102

Zimmer: Un Moderador; +1,688|7015|Scotland

Oh my. The deal that the guy gave me instore is just too good to ignore:
Cambridge Azure 550A amp
Mordaunt Short Aviano 2s
Cambridge Aud500 2ph-3.5 2m

All for 500GBP.

Freezer, sup look at the Mordaunt Shorts and tell me what you think. I listened to them and they were beautiful. Such an inviting sound. I compared the Denon Amp to the CA one and the Demon was just too in your face. Also, Mordaunt Short are owned by CA, which means the amp and speakers go perfectly.

Thoughts?

2010-01-15 05:38:45

#103

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6456|Winland

British speakers are usually quite good. For the price, I'd say you did quite good.

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

2010-01-15 05:43:29

#104

Varegg: Support fanatic :-); +2,206|7069|Nårvei

Can't really go wrong with Cambridge ... looks like a sweet deal Zimmer

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2010-01-15 12:24:53

#105

Bertster7: Confused Pothead; +1,101|6840|SE London

Zimmer wrote:
Oh my. The deal that the guy gave me instore is just too good to ignore:
Cambridge Azure 550A amp
Mordaunt Short Aviano 2s
Cambridge Aud500 2ph-3.5 2m

All for 500GBP.

Freezer, sup look at the Mordaunt Shorts and tell me what you think. I listened to them and they were beautiful. Such an inviting sound. I compared the Denon Amp to the CA one and the Demon was just too in your face. Also, Mordaunt Short are owned by CA, which means the amp and speakers go perfectly.

Thoughts?

Nice.

2010-01-15 12:38:51

#106

.Sup: be nice; +2,646|6712|The Twilight Zone

Mordaunt Short - people speak highly of them, I personally can't comment on the particular model as I haven't heard them but you can't really go wrong with MS. You still need a DAC if you wan't this setup to sound as good as the amp and speakers deserve. How much more is the 6 series amp?

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2010-01-15 14:23:43

#107

mcminty: Moderating your content for the Australian Govt.; +879|6980|Sydney, Australia

.Sup wrote:
Mordaunt Short - people speak highly of them, I personally can't comment on the particular model as I haven't heard them but you can't really go wrong with MS. You still need a DAC if you wan't this setup to sound as good as the amp and speakers deserve. How much more is the 6 series amp?

While we don't have those speakers, our home theatre uses small MS speakers (shame really, want something bigger at the front ). Sound great. Also, we have some ancient MS40's that I mentioned in the open thread. One works properly, and sounds epic. Wish the other worked..

2010-01-16 07:07:16

#108

Zimmer: Un Moderador; +1,688|7015|Scotland

.Sup wrote:
Mordaunt Short - people speak highly of them, I personally can't comment on the particular model as I haven't heard them but you can't really go wrong with MS. You still need a DAC if you wan't this setup to sound as good as the amp and speakers deserve. How much more is the 6 series amp?

I spoke to all the guys there, and they said I will be fine without a DAC for now. Hell, the guy that was talking to me about them uses his soundcard for his speaker set up, and I'm pretty sure he knows his stuff.

Why the hell would I want the 6 series amp? The only difference between the 5 and 6 series is that the 6 has more "juice" in it. I'm not going to playing incredibly loud music or having parties with them on. I don't need more power.

2010-01-16 08:09:46

#109

Morpheus: This shit still going?; +508|6258|The Mitten

Zimmer wrote:
.Sup wrote:
Mordaunt Short - people speak highly of them, I personally can't comment on the particular model as I haven't heard them but you can't really go wrong with MS. You still need a DAC if you wan't this setup to sound as good as the amp and speakers deserve. How much more is the 6 series amp?
I spoke to all the guys there, and they said I will be fine without a DAC for now. Hell, the guy that was talking to me about them uses his soundcard for his speaker set up, and I'm pretty sure he knows his stuff.

Why the hell would I want the 6 series amp? The only difference between the 5 and 6 series is that the 6 has more "juice" in it. I'm not going to playing incredibly loud music or having parties with them on. I don't need more power.

More power =/= louder.
Depending on the speakers, you might need more power to actually drive the magnet... and if you under-power it, it won't sound as good.
Higher power means the amp will have an easier time getting the speaker to do what it's supposed to do, which is sound good.

Of course, you want to be careful and not go way over power....

EE (hats

2010-01-16 09:17:13

#110

Zimmer: Un Moderador; +1,688|7015|Scotland

Morpheus wrote:
Zimmer wrote:
.Sup wrote:
Mordaunt Short - people speak highly of them, I personally can't comment on the particular model as I haven't heard them but you can't really go wrong with MS. You still need a DAC if you wan't this setup to sound as good as the amp and speakers deserve. How much more is the 6 series amp?
I spoke to all the guys there, and they said I will be fine without a DAC for now. Hell, the guy that was talking to me about them uses his soundcard for his speaker set up, and I'm pretty sure he knows his stuff.

Why the hell would I want the 6 series amp? The only difference between the 5 and 6 series is that the 6 has more "juice" in it. I'm not going to playing incredibly loud music or having parties with them on. I don't need more power.
More power =/= louder.
Depending on the speakers, you might need more power to actually drive the magnet... and if you under-power it, it won't sound as good.
Higher power means the amp will have an easier time getting the speaker to do what it's supposed to do, which is sound good.

Of course, you want to be careful and not go way over power....

These are the speakers that are actively tested with all the CA Amps. I'm not stupid enough to underpower my speakers. The normal power input for the speakers is 15W - 115W and the wattage that the 550A puts out is 60W. More than enough. The 650A only ouputs 15W more.

2010-01-16 09:20:30

#111

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6456|Winland

Zimmer wrote:
Morpheus wrote:
Zimmer wrote:

I spoke to all the guys there, and they said I will be fine without a DAC for now. Hell, the guy that was talking to me about them uses his soundcard for his speaker set up, and I'm pretty sure he knows his stuff.

Why the hell would I want the 6 series amp? The only difference between the 5 and 6 series is that the 6 has more "juice" in it. I'm not going to playing incredibly loud music or having parties with them on. I don't need more power.
More power =/= louder.
Depending on the speakers, you might need more power to actually drive the magnet... and if you under-power it, it won't sound as good.
Higher power means the amp will have an easier time getting the speaker to do what it's supposed to do, which is sound good.

Of course, you want to be careful and not go way over power....
These are the speakers that are actively tested with all the CA Amps. I'm not stupid enough to underpower my speakers. The normal power input for the speakers is 15W - 115W and the wattage that the 550A puts out is 60W. More than enough. The 650A only ouputs 15W more.

Normal listening volume for me is usually around 50-100mW.

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

2010-01-16 09:44:20

#112

Zimmer: Un Moderador; +1,688|7015|Scotland

milli watts? Or watts? Or Mega Watts?

Milli watts sounds ridiculously low...

2010-01-16 09:48:22

#113

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6456|Winland

Zimmer wrote:
milli watts? Or watts? Or Mega Watts?

Milli watts sounds ridiculously low...

Milliwatts. One watt into a pair of reasonably sensitive speakers is way above normal conversation level.

Note that power and experienced loudness is logarithmic. To make it sound twice as loud as one watt, you need ten Watts. Twice as loud as ten watts calls for a hundred.

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

2010-01-16 10:07:14

#114

Bertster7: Confused Pothead; +1,101|6840|SE London

Zimmer wrote:
milli watts? Or watts? Or Mega Watts?

Milli watts sounds ridiculously low...

Mega Watts - lol

That's about enough power for a whole street.

2010-01-16 12:32:44

#115

.Sup: be nice; +2,646|6712|The Twilight Zone

Zimmer wrote:
.Sup wrote:
Mordaunt Short - people speak highly of them, I personally can't comment on the particular model as I haven't heard them but you can't really go wrong with MS. You still need a DAC if you wan't this setup to sound as good as the amp and speakers deserve. How much more is the 6 series amp?
I spoke to all the guys there, and they said I will be fine without a DAC for now. Hell, the guy that was talking to me about them uses his soundcard for his speaker set up, and I'm pretty sure he knows his stuff.

Then you're set. I rest my case.

2010-01-16 13:07:46

#116

Morpheus: This shit still going?; +508|6258|The Mitten

Bertster7 wrote:
Zimmer wrote:
milli watts? Or watts? Or Mega Watts?

Milli watts sounds ridiculously low...
Mega Watts - lol

That's about enough power for a whole street.

https://www.rpi.edu/~calhop/blag/gigawatt.jpg

EE (hats

2010-01-16 13:11:44

#117

.Sup: be nice; +2,646|6712|The Twilight Zone

Morpheus wrote:
Bertster7 wrote:
Zimmer wrote:
milli watts? Or watts? Or Mega Watts?

Milli watts sounds ridiculously low...
Mega Watts - lol

That's about enough power for a whole street.
http://www.rpi.edu/~calhop/blag/gigawatt.jpg

needs more jiggawatts1!#!

2010-01-23 08:21:53

#118

Zimmer: Un Moderador; +1,688|7015|Scotland

So I bought the system. Sitting in my living still boxed up.

The system has changed since last time; I decided to go all out instead of getting a soundcard.

I had a listen to both the Aviano 1s and the Aviano 2s and the 1s came out on top. Even though the 2s have a larger driver, the 1s had a much snappier and nicer bass. The mids and highs were pretty much identical, but the bass was just lovely on the 1s. I compared with Teardrop by Massive Attack to get a right idea.

So my final system that's still sitting downstairs:
Mordaunt Short Aviano 1s
Cambridge Audio Azure 550A Amp
Cambridge Audio DACMagic
Soundstyle Z2s Speaker Stands
Cambridge Audio Ultra 100 10m speaker cable
Cambridge Audio Arctic Interconnectors

Final price:
£664

Fucking awesome deal.
Got the cables and the interconnectors free (would have cost another £50 if I had to pay for them).

2010-01-23 08:23:57

#119

Bertster7: Confused Pothead; +1,101|6840|SE London

Zimmer wrote:
So I bought the system. Sitting in my living still boxed up.

The system has changed since last time; I decided to go all out instead of getting a soundcard.

I had a listen to both the Aviano 1s and the Aviano 2s and the 1s came out on top. Even though the 2s have a larger driver, the 1s had a much snappier and nicer bass. The mids and highs were pretty much identical, but the bass was just lovely on the 1s. I compared with Teardrop by Massive Attack to get a right idea.

So my final system that's still sitting downstairs:
Mordaunt Short Aviano 1s
Cambridge Audio Azure 550A Amp
Cambridge Audio DACMagic
Soundstyle Z2s Speaker Stands
Cambridge Audio Ultra 100 10m speaker cable
Cambridge Audio Arctic Interconnectors

Final price:
£664

Fucking awesome deal.
Got the cables and the interconnectors free (would have cost another £50 if I had to pay for them).

Plug it in!

2010-01-23 08:27:34

#120

Zimmer: Un Moderador; +1,688|7015|Scotland

I actually can't just yet. I have builders here till Tuesday, and would like to install them when everything is cleaned up and I can get the house ready.

2010-01-23 09:01:58

#121

.Sup: be nice; +2,646|6712|The Twilight Zone

I'm really glad you got the DacMagic, you won't be sorry. What changed your mind? I heard a lot good about the Z2s stands and they were pretty cheap too compared to other quality stands right?

2010-01-23 09:17:13

#122

Zimmer: Un Moderador; +1,688|7015|Scotland

I just thought it would be utterly pointless to shell out on a "decent" soundcard when I can go the full way with a DAC. Especially the DACMagic.

Yeah, the speaker stands got 5/5 on WhatHifi. I got them for £50, reduced from £70.

The system, in reality, should have cost me £820, but the guy loved me and we had awesome chats about games (he is a BF2 gamer ) and therefore he took a lovely chunk off the price.

2010-01-23 10:18:38

#123

Winston_Churchill: Bazinga!; +521|6998|Toronto | Canada

We need a video of you unpacking and setting up, with narration in your Scottish accent

2010-01-24 04:37:49

#124

mcminty: Moderating your content for the Australian Govt.; +879|6980|Sydney, Australia

Winston_Churchill wrote:
We need a video of you unpacking and setting up, with narration in your Scottish accent

This

That shall sound awesome lol. Even if it was 820 pounds, that's still a steal compared to Aussie prices for this kind of stuff..

2010-01-24 06:09:20

#125

.Sup: be nice; +2,646|6712|The Twilight Zone

still no pics... wtf Zimmer??????????????????????????????

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