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What religion do you follow?

Christianity	32%	32% - 37
Islam	5%	5% - 6
Judaism	2%	2% - 3
Hinduism	0%	0% - 0
Buddhism	0%	0% - 0
Sikhism	1%	1% - 2
Shinto	0%	0% - 0
Atheism	25%	25% - 29
Agnosticism	25%	25% - 29
Other	7%	7% - 9
Total: 115

2010-01-22 19:59:24

#126

bakinacake: HA HA; +383|6400|Aus, Qld

Bevo wrote:
bakinacake wrote:
You say you're not interested, but you keep responding.
In the specifics.

Would you agree that christianity is similar to my blue asteroid religion in the frame that belief saves you from something terrible that will happen. Yes?

Yes it is similar, but that is only one part of it. You're trying to compare an orange and a banana by saying that they are the same because they are both fruit. One cannot compare two things properly without fully understanding both of them.

2010-01-22 19:59:55

#127

Superior Mind: (not macbeth); +1,755|7107

Poseidon wrote:
Superior Mind wrote:
m3thod wrote:
Allah hu Akbar.
This. Also, I'm a Jew.

I also follow certain teachings of Dudeism, Buddha, and the Tao.
I knew you'd show up eventually.

Jews of the world unite o/\o

2010-01-22 20:01:24

#128

Bevo: Nah; +718|6936|Austin, Texas

bakinacake wrote:
Bevo wrote:
bakinacake wrote:
You say you're not interested, but you keep responding.
In the specifics.

Would you agree that christianity is similar to my blue asteroid religion in the frame that belief saves you from something terrible that will happen. Yes?
Yes it is similar, but that is only one part of it. You're trying to compare an orange and a banana by saying that they are the same because they are both fruit. One cannot compare two things properly without fully understanding both of them.

Please don't sidestep the question. It was direct.

In the capacity that both of these save you from terrible things if you believe in them, are they similar or not?

2010-01-22 20:03:51

#129

Doctor Strangelove: Real Battlefield Veterinarian.; +1,758|6883

All of them, but I like Jesus the best.

2010-01-22 20:03:51

#130

Superior Mind: (not macbeth); +1,755|7107

Bevo wrote:
bakinacake wrote:
Bevo wrote:

In the specifics.

Would you agree that christianity is similar to my blue asteroid religion in the frame that belief saves you from something terrible that will happen. Yes?
Yes it is similar, but that is only one part of it. You're trying to compare an orange and a banana by saying that they are the same because they are both fruit. One cannot compare two things properly without fully understanding both of them.
Please don't sidestep the question. It was direct.

In the capacity that both of these save you from terrible things if you believe in them, are they similar or not?

He already said. The first 4 words of his response.

2010-01-22 20:04:21

#131

bakinacake: HA HA; +383|6400|Aus, Qld

Bevo wrote:
bakinacake wrote:
Bevo wrote:

In the specifics.

Would you agree that christianity is similar to my blue asteroid religion in the frame that belief saves you from something terrible that will happen. Yes?
Yes it is similar, but that is only one part of it. You're trying to compare an orange and a banana by saying that they are the same because they are both fruit. One cannot compare two things properly without fully understanding both of them.
Please don't sidestep the question. It was direct.

In the capacity that both of these save you from terrible things if you believe in them, are they similar or not?

Yes. But you are not outlining the question properly, you're neglecting facts.

2010-01-22 20:06:09

#132

Phrozenbot: Member; +632|7030|do not disturb

Doctor Strangelove wrote:
All of them, but I like Jesus the best.

Even tho he won't loan you cash?

2010-01-22 20:11:37

#133

Bevo: Nah; +718|6936|Austin, Texas

bakinacake wrote:
Bevo wrote:
bakinacake wrote:

Yes it is similar, but that is only one part of it. You're trying to compare an orange and a banana by saying that they are the same because they are both fruit. One cannot compare two things properly without fully understanding both of them.
Please don't sidestep the question. It was direct.

In the capacity that both of these save you from terrible things if you believe in them, are they similar or not?
Yes.

Okay.

So given the fact that I was able to convince you that believing in the blue asteroid would save you in the same way that Christianity saves you, would you believe in it?

2010-01-22 20:16:08

#134

Dauntless: Admin; +2,249|7157|London

bakinacake wrote:
Who thought of the word, Humans. It is a human understanding of a non human being.

Humans thought of all of the words, and that is what that word means. It's not something that means non human being.

omni = all

scient = Knowing, Aware, Knowledgeable
potent = Strength, Power
present = Present

If dinosaurs were on the ark what happened to them now?

Also how big was the ark? They didn't even know how big the world was back then let alone where all the countries were and every single type of animal.

2010-01-22 20:23:11

#135

bakinacake: HA HA; +383|6400|Aus, Qld

Dauntless wrote:
bakinacake wrote:
Who thought of the word, Humans. It is a human understanding of a non human being.
Humans thought of all of the words, and that is what that word means. It's not something that means non human being.

omni = all

scient = Knowing, Aware, Knowledgeable
potent = Strength, Power
present = Present

If dinosaurs were on the ark what happened to them now?

Also how big was the ark? They didn't even know how big the world was back then let alone where all the countries were and every single type of animal.

Yes it means that, but it is a Human thought of what is all knowing/powerful.

Viewpoints change, but because we only know what is our understanding, we do not know what a non human understanding would be of an omniscient being.

From a Creationistic point of view, dinosaurs couldn't survive after the flood because their food might have been destroyed, or something changed in the atmosphere, they would have got off the Ark, because they would have got on. Whether they survived long is unknown. The Ark was about 3 stories high, 130m long, and 20 metres wide.

Bevo wrote:
bakinacake wrote:
Bevo wrote:

Please don't sidestep the question. It was direct.

In the capacity that both of these save you from terrible things if you believe in them, are they similar or not?
Yes.
Okay.

So given the fact that I was able to convince you that believing in the blue asteroid would save you in the same way that Christianity saves you, would you believe in it?

Keep your story straight man, It was believing in your deity that would save me from the blue asteroid. Me personally, no I would not believe, because I believe in God, and that God is the only true deity. This is only my belief, and others are entitled to theirs. If I was to die due to a blue asteroid because I didn't believe in your deity, so be it. But a hypothetical person would believe that the asteroid deity would save them, if they knew that this deity would save them.

Last edited by bakinacake (2010-01-22 20:26:33)

2010-01-22 20:29:34

#136

Bevo: Nah; +718|6936|Austin, Texas

bakinacake wrote:
Keep your story straight man, It was believing in your deity that would save me from the blue asteroid. Me personally, no I would not believe, because I believe in God, and that God is the only true deity. This is only my belief, and others are entitled to theirs. If I was to die due to a blue asteroid because I didn't believe in your deity, so be it. But a hypothetical person would believe that the asteroid deity would save them, if they knew that this deity would save them.

Okay, you wouldn't believe because you already believe in something else. What if you grew up and your parents believed in blue asteroid? and most of your country also believed in blue asteroid. Presented with the choice of christianity, would you switch?

2010-01-22 20:34:46

#137

bakinacake: HA HA; +383|6400|Aus, Qld

Bevo wrote:
bakinacake wrote:
Keep your story straight man, It was believing in your deity that would save me from the blue asteroid. Me personally, no I would not believe, because I believe in God, and that God is the only true deity. This is only my belief, and others are entitled to theirs. If I was to die due to a blue asteroid because I didn't believe in your deity, so be it. But a hypothetical person would believe that the asteroid deity would save them, if they knew that this deity would save them.
Okay, you wouldn't believe because you already believe in something else. What if you grew up and your parents believed in blue asteroid? and most of your country also believed in blue asteroid. Presented with the choice of christianity, would you switch?

Yes, because according to Christianity, It is the only way to live eternally. And therefore Blue asteroid would be a false God. I would also switch because the blue asteroid religion only offers saving from death, whereas Christianity offers a saving from death as well as countless of other things. In a world without Christianity though, it would be different.

2010-01-22 20:36:46

#138

Bevo: Nah; +718|6936|Austin, Texas

bakinacake wrote:
Yes, because according to Christianity, It is the only way to live eternally. And therefore Blue asteroid would be a false God. I would also switch because the blue asteroid religion only offers saving from death, whereas Christianity offers a saving from death as well as countless of other things. In a world without Christianity though, it would be different.

Blue asteroid is also the only way to live eternally. It also offers countless other things. Would you still switch?

2010-01-22 20:37:00

#139

Dauntless: Admin; +2,249|7157|London

You don't understand, it isn't a viewpoint or understanding... it's what those words mean

we're all human and that book was written by humans for humans. we aren't talking about what a non human "understanding" of it is...

anyway i've gone on for too long with this, there's no reasoning with the unreasonable, everything can be answered with "its magic" or "its gods secret plan"

i'll end with this:

https://lettertoamerica.podbus.com/pictures/Jesus%20with%20Dinosaur.jpg

2010-01-22 20:42:00

#140

CanadianLoser: Meow :3 :3; +1,148|6922

[ ] threadworthy

2010-01-22 20:43:20

#141

androoz: Banned; +137|5628|United States

CanadianLoser wrote:
[ ] threadworthy

CL = banworthy [x]

2010-01-22 20:43:25

#142

bakinacake: HA HA; +383|6400|Aus, Qld

Dauntless wrote:
You don't understand, it isn't a viewpoint or understanding... it's what those words mean

we're all human and that book was written by humans for humans. we aren't talking about what a non human "understanding" of it is...

anyway i've gone on for too long with this, there's no reasoning with the unreasonable, everything can be answered with "its magic" or "its gods secret plan"

i'll end with this:

http://lettertoamerica.podbus.com/pictu … nosaur.jpg

Yes, and what those words mean, is from a human mind!

It is a book written by humans with God's help for humans.

How am I being unreasonable, I am hearing what you have to say, and I am answering your questions from my point of view.

Bevo wrote:
bakinacake wrote:
Yes, because according to Christianity, It is the only way to live eternally. And therefore Blue asteroid would be a false God. I would also switch because the blue asteroid religion only offers saving from death, whereas Christianity offers a saving from death as well as countless of other things. In a world without Christianity though, it would be different.
Blue asteroid is also the only way to live eternally. It also offers countless other things. Would you still switch?

So basically blue asteroid turned into Christianity? If so, I'm not sure, I would have to experience it to understand.

2010-01-22 20:46:29

#143

Bevo: Nah; +718|6936|Austin, Texas

bakinacake wrote:
So basically blue asteroid turned into Christianity? If so, I'm not sure, I would have to experience it to understand.

It's got all that nice shit about christianity, plus the 72 virgins.

It's basically christianity plus.

2010-01-22 20:49:03

#144

bakinacake: HA HA; +383|6400|Aus, Qld

Bevo wrote:
bakinacake wrote:
So basically blue asteroid turned into Christianity? If so, I'm not sure, I would have to experience it to understand.
It's got all that nice shit about christianity, plus the 72 virgins.

It's basically christianity plus.

But you said that basically Christianity doesn't exist, and so therefore it would be a completely different universe/worldview.

Are you trying to make me believe in the Blue asteroid ?

2010-01-22 20:51:18

#145

Macbeth: Banned; +2,444|6000

androoz wrote:
Mekstizzle wrote:
JohnG@lt wrote:
No. It's a retarded philosophy designed for emo kids.
/Thread
Isn't Macbeth a Nihilist though?

Morally nihilist, sure.

It's just the idea that since there isn't a god and there isn't a definite absolute that there is no objective right or wrong to anything and it purely comes down to the perspective of the parties involved.

A total nihilist would say, "since there isn't a god and a definite absolute in the world there is no greater meaning to anything." I don't get how that is
"the dumbest philosophy eva lolololol".

There are no eternal facts, as there are no absolute truths.-Friedrich Nietzsche

Last edited by Macbeth (2010-01-22 21:32:17)

2010-01-22 20:54:02

#146

Bevo: Nah; +718|6936|Austin, Texas

bakinacake wrote:
Bevo wrote:
bakinacake wrote:
So basically blue asteroid turned into Christianity? If so, I'm not sure, I would have to experience it to understand.
It's got all that nice shit about christianity, plus the 72 virgins.

It's basically christianity plus.
But you said that basically Christianity doesn't exist, and so therefore it would be a completely different universe/worldview.

Are you trying to make me believe in the Blue asteroid ?

I didn't say it doesn't exist. Blue asteroid is everything christianity is, but better. Would you switch given the choice?

2010-01-22 20:55:13

#147

bakinacake: HA HA; +383|6400|Aus, Qld

Bevo wrote:
bakinacake wrote:
Bevo wrote:

It's got all that nice shit about christianity, plus the 72 virgins.

It's basically christianity plus.
But you said that basically Christianity doesn't exist, and so therefore it would be a completely different universe/worldview.

Are you trying to make me believe in the Blue asteroid ?
I didn't say it doesn't exist. Blue asteroid is everything christianity is, but better. Would you switch given the choice?

Bevo wrote:
Blue asteroid is also the only way to live eternally. It also offers countless other things. Would you still switch?

According to my worldview, that's saying that it doesn't exist.

2010-01-22 20:57:53

#148

Bevo: Nah; +718|6936|Austin, Texas

bakinacake wrote:
According to my worldview, that's saying that it doesn't exist.

then christianity is the only religion that exists according to you?

2010-01-22 21:00:11

#149

bakinacake: HA HA; +383|6400|Aus, Qld

Bevo wrote:
bakinacake wrote:
According to my worldview, that's saying that it doesn't exist.
then christianity is the only religion that exists according to you?

No, I didn't say that, according to my worldview, Christianity is the only True religion.
There are other religions, yes. And I totally have no problem with other people believing in them, that is there choice, But I believe this.

2010-01-22 21:04:31

#150

Macbeth: Banned; +2,444|6000

JohnG@lt wrote:
androoz wrote:
Is Nihilism a religion?
No. It's a retarded philosophy designed for emo kids.

You named yourself after an Ayn Rand character. Ayn Rand was practically a nihilist herself.

To use a quote-

Leonard S. Peikoff, an American Objectivist philosopher. He is a former professor of philosophy and a former radio talk show host. He is the founder of the Ayn Rand Institute and the legal heir to Ayn Rand's estate wrote:
Objectivism rejects belief in "every 'spiritual' dimension, force, Form, Idea, entity, power, or whatnot alleged to transcend existence."

He wrote that in his book "Objectivism: The Philosophy of Ayn Rand".

Sounds just like nihilism doesn't it? Where nihilism ended, objectivism began. Ayn Rand just was the one who said "well since there isn't a greater meaning to life, do what's best for you."

Just sayin.

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