Arguing over religious beliefs is the one of the most futile exercises one could possibly engage in.
Poll
What religion do you follow?
| Christianity | 32% | 32% - 37 | ||||
| Islam | 5% | 5% - 6 | ||||
| Judaism | 2% | 2% - 3 | ||||
| Hinduism | 0% | 0% - 0 | ||||
| Buddhism | 0% | 0% - 0 | ||||
| Sikhism | 1% | 1% - 2 | ||||
| Shinto | 0% | 0% - 0 | ||||
| Atheism | 25% | 25% - 29 | ||||
| Agnosticism | 25% | 25% - 29 | ||||
| Other | 7% | 7% - 9 | ||||
| Total: 115 | ||||||
Not arguing, discussing.Laika wrote:
Arguing over religious beliefs is the one of the most futile exercises one could possibly engage in.
i believe i'll have a beer.
Good call sir.burnzz wrote:
i believe i'll have a beer.
Atheism/agnosticism is a lack of religion and just defines your stance in "the belief in the existence of a god" topic.DesertFox- wrote:
Yes they are, actually. They're just not as organizied/unified as the other options.Lucien wrote:
I'm sure this has already been said earlier in this thread, but atheism and agnosticism are not religions.
Wikipedia wrote:
Aspects of religion include narrative, symbolism, beliefs, and practices that are supposed to give meaning to the practitioner's experiences of life. Whether the meaning centers on a deity or deities, or an ultimate truth,[2] religion is commonly identified by the practitioner's prayer, ritual, meditation, music and art, among other things, and is often interwoven with society and politics. It may focus on specific supernatural, metaphysical, and moral claims about reality (the cosmos and human nature) which may yield a set of religious laws, ethics, and a particular lifestyle. Religion also encompasses ancestral or cultural traditions, writings, history, and mythology, as well as personal faith and religious experience.
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bakinacake wrote:
No, I didn't say that, according to my worldview, Christianity is the only True religion.Bevo wrote:
then christianity is the only religion that exists according to you?bakinacake wrote:
According to my worldview, that's saying that it doesn't exist.
There are other religions, yes. And I totally have no problem with other people believing in them, that is there choice, But I believe this.
Bevo wrote:
Presented with the choice of christianity, would you switch?
....bakinacake wrote:
Yes, because according to Christianity, It is the only way to live eternally.
bakinacake wrote:
But you said that basically Christianity doesn't exist
Bevo wrote:
Blue asteroid is also the only way to live eternally.
watbakinacake wrote:
According to my worldview, that's saying that [christianity] doesn't exist.
So if multiple religions say they're the only way to live eternally, none of them exist?
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No, I was saying that would make blue asteroid the true religion, and therefore according to my beliefs would mean that Christianity doesn't exist.Bevo wrote:
bakinacake wrote:
No, I didn't say that, according to my worldview, Christianity is the only True religion.Bevo wrote:
then christianity is the only religion that exists according to you?
There are other religions, yes. And I totally have no problem with other people believing in them, that is there choice, But I believe this.Bevo wrote:
Presented with the choice of christianity, would you switch?....bakinacake wrote:
[no], because according to Christianity, It is the only way to live eternally.bakinacake wrote:
But you said that basically Christianity doesn't existBevo wrote:
Blue asteroid is also the only way to live eternally.watbakinacake wrote:
According to my worldview, that's saying that [christianity] doesn't exist.
So if multiple religions say they're the only way to live eternally, none of them exist?
Okay, so at that point, you would choose blue asteroid?bakinacake wrote:
No, I was saying that would make blue asteroid the true religion, and therefore according to my beliefs would mean that Christianity doesn't exist.
It's completely hypothetical because the world would be different.Bevo wrote:
Okay, so at that point, you would choose blue asteroid?bakinacake wrote:
No, I was saying that would make blue asteroid the true religion, and therefore according to my beliefs would mean that Christianity doesn't exist.
I suppose I would, but you kinda just renamed Christianity to blue asteroid..
Would you choose it?
Phrozenbot wrote:
You're a bit mistaken about the crusades. The Muslims started it when they invaded the Iberian Peninsula (Spain).
The Reconquista had nothing to do with the middle eastern Crusades. The Muslims invasion of the Iberian Peninsula wasn't a holy war and had a 400 year gap between the start of it and the first Crusade.
what is this i don't even
Excellent. Blue asteroid does exist, it's the only true religion and only way to live eternally. All those other religions are liars. Please wear blue on every 3rd day of the month so you don't anger the deity.bakinacake wrote:
I suppose I would...
I wouldn't choose anything, because I don't believe in cults.Would you choose it?
Don't forget to read what else I said, In a hypothetical world, In which that was all we were given, you are unable to say that this could possibly happened because we do have Christianity. And you're saying in that hypothetical world, you would rather die, than not because you don't believe in cults, even though you 110% knew that you would die.Bevo wrote:
Excellent. Blue asteroid does exist, it's the only true religion and only way to live eternally. All those other religions are liars. Please wear blue on every 3rd day of the month so you don't anger the deity.bakinacake wrote:
I suppose I would...I wouldn't choose anything, because I don't believe in cults.Would you choose it?
but I don't like blue...Bevo wrote:
Excellent. Blue asteroid does exist, it's the only true religion and only way to live eternally. All those other religions are liars. Please wear blue on every 3rd day of the month so you don't anger the deity.bakinacake wrote:
I suppose I would...I wouldn't choose anything, because I don't believe in cults.Would you choose it?
Why couldn't they coexist?bakinacake wrote:
Don't forget to read what else I said, In a hypothetical world, In which that was all we were given, you are unable to say that this could possibly happened because we do have Christianity.
No, I wouldn't believe some nutjob telling me that thought processes in my brain affect the likelihood of being crushed by an asteroid.And you're saying in that hypothetical world, you would rather die, than not because you don't believe in cults, even though you 110% knew that you would die.
They wouldn't coexist as the 'one true religion' because obviously there can only be one.Bevo wrote:
Why couldn't they coexist?bakinacake wrote:
Don't forget to read what else I said, In a hypothetical world, In which that was all we were given, you are unable to say that this could possibly happened because we do have Christianity.No, I wouldn't believe some nutjob telling me that thought processes in my brain affect the likelihood of being crushed by an asteroid.And you're saying in that hypothetical world, you would rather die, than not because you don't believe in cults, even though you 110% knew that you would die.
But remember before you said that it was 110% going to happen, not what other people told you, or what you believed would happen, that it would happen. You're saying that you would die because you don't believe in any religion, when you 110% know that you would die because you didn't want to believe in a nutjob.
They both claim to be the one true religion.bakinacake wrote:
They wouldn't coexist as the 'one true religion' because obviously there can only be one.
Yes. I said.But remember before you said that it was 110% going to happen, not what other people told you, or what you believed would happen, that it would happen. You're saying that you would die because you don't believe in any religion, when you 110% know that you would die because you didn't want to believe in a nutjob.
You created the hypothetical situation and now you are not sticking to your own situation's rules. You can't go and say that you wouldn't believe in this deity because you don't believe in nutjobs, but you already know that the asteroid will kill you, and it is definitely going to.Bevo wrote:
They both claim to be the one true religion.bakinacake wrote:
They wouldn't coexist as the 'one true religion' because obviously there can only be one.Yes. I said.But remember before you said that it was 110% going to happen, not what other people told you, or what you believed would happen, that it would happen. You're saying that you would die because you don't believe in any religion, when you 110% know that you would die because you didn't want to believe in a nutjob.
Are you saying that Christianity and Blue asteroid are both claiming to be the true religion?
for $9.99/mo you can skip this ruleMiggle wrote:
but I don't like blue...Bevo wrote:
Excellent. Blue asteroid does exist, it's the only true religion and only way to live eternally. All those other religions are liars. Please wear blue on every 3rd day of the month so you don't anger the deity.bakinacake wrote:
I suppose I would...I wouldn't choose anything, because I don't believe in cults.Would you choose it?
You said it was hypothetical, not I, and IIRC it was in reference to blue asteroid being the predominant religion.bakinacake wrote:
You created the hypothetical situation and now you are not sticking to your own situation's rules. You can't go and say that you wouldn't believe in this deity because you don't believe in nutjobs, but you already know that the asteroid will kill you, and it is definitely going to.
Why would this asteroid kill me? Just because you say it is? You have no proof of this asteroid even existing.
Yes.Are you saying that Christianity and Blue asteroid are both claiming to be the true religion?
Bevo wrote:
You said it was hypothetical, not I, and IIRC it was in reference to blue asteroid being the predominant religion.bakinacake wrote:
You created the hypothetical situation and now you are not sticking to your own situation's rules. You can't go and say that you wouldn't believe in this deity because you don't believe in nutjobs, but you already know that the asteroid will kill you, and it is definitely going to.
Why would this asteroid kill me? Just because you say it is? You have no proof of this asteroid even existing.Yes.Are you saying that Christianity and Blue asteroid are both claiming to be the true religion?
I only continued on because I thought that you were saying that it was true, not what you believed to be true.bakinacake wrote:
Not what you believe to be true, but what is true. If it was true then I would. If you believed it to be true, then no. In this situation it is not about what I believed to be true, but I was asking if it was true.Bevo wrote:
That's illogical ma'am.bakinacake wrote:
Well, say if it was true, would it be a fear tactic? If you 110% knew it was going to happen, would it be a fear tactic? Would it not be a warning? According to this it's facts, black and white, that is what WILL happen. Wouldn't that change your mindset, if it was going to happen?
Let's say I believe a giant blue asteroid was going to crush the shit out of your house, and I "knew this to be true". And I told you if you don't pay me $10,000, my diety will let this asteroid crush your house. Would that not be a warning? According to my diety this is facts, it will happen. Wouldn't that change your mindset, if it was going to happen?
So if both Christianity and Blue asteroid are both dominant religions, I would believe that Christianity is the only true one because of my point of view.
Sigh. It's always the same with the religious types. "I know it to be true". Well, you don't. You were born and raised christian the same way you could have been born and raised blue asteroid. Considering their similarity, you might be in the complete opposite argument you are in now.bakinacake wrote:
I only continued on because I thought that you were saying that it was true, not what you believed to be true.
Not if, according to you, you believed in blue asteroid first.So if both Christianity and Blue asteroid are both dominant religions, I would believe that Christianity is the only true one because of my point of view.
Bevo wrote:
Sigh. It's always the same with the religious types. "I know it to be true". Well, you don't. You were born and raised christian the same way you could have been born and raised blue asteroid. Considering their similarity, you might be in the complete opposite argument you are in now.bakinacake wrote:
I only continued on because I thought that you were saying that it was true, not what you believed to be true.
You said it was true. You also said you know it to be true, but you did say it is true.Bevo wrote:
bakinacake wrote:
This is true, I know it to be true.
No, if Christianity existed, according to my view right at this moment, i would choose Christianity, because my view says that it is the only 'true' religion.Bevo wrote:
Not if, according to you, you believed in blue asteroid first.So if both Christianity and Blue asteroid are both dominant religions, I would believe that Christianity is the only true one because of my point of view.
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