I'm in SoCal which supposedly has pretty fair AT&T coverage, and I have AT&T. Not satisfied in the least. I looked at the Droid for Verizon and liked it a lot, but I've heard nothing but bad news about their customer service, which is the only thing keeping me at AT&T at this point.Kmarion wrote:
It really depends on what part of the country you are in. Service wise at least.jsnipy wrote:
AT&T is just lolHurricane2k9 wrote:
Your only GSM options here are AT&T or T-Mobile. AT&T is horrifyingly expensive and their service is terrible but they have more coverage than T-Mobile. And the iPad and iPhone don't have support for T-Mobile's 3G band.
Article seems to ignoring the main problem that it's a shit product.Kmarion wrote:
http://moneywatch.bnet.com/investing/bl … lence/428/Apple is a phenomenal company, but it has to do business in the same fragile economy and stock market as everyone else. No matter how brilliant Steve Jobs, Apple’s chief executive, is, the stock is vulnerable to a second dip into recession; $499 for the basic iPad will attract a lot of buyers, but fewer if the economy tanks anew.
The share price could also fall victim to perhaps the biggest threat that any asset faces: excessive expectations.
For the last decade Jobs has managed to do everything right, from the various iterations of the Mac to Pixar to iTunes and the iPod and the iEverything else. He has a knack, maybe better than anyone else does, for identifying a need in the marketplace, often one that consumers never realized they had, and designing a product or service to fill it.
But nobody’s perfect. Jobs has made mistakes, although not lately. It doesn’t look as though the iPad is one, but it’s way too early to tell for sure.
Would not affect the cult right? You didn't ignore the first post in this thread did you?
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Pretty much the same here. I've actually hung up on Verizon service before. It takes a lot for me to lose it like that. They kept bouncing me around, swearing that the person who sent me to them was who i needed to talk to. This went on for over an hour.KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
I'm in SoCal which supposedly has pretty fair AT&T coverage, and I have AT&T. Not satisfied in the least. I looked at the Droid for Verizon and liked it a lot, but I've heard nothing but bad news about their customer service, which is the only thing keeping me at AT&T at this point.Kmarion wrote:
It really depends on what part of the country you are in. Service wise at least.jsnipy wrote:
AT&T is just lol
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I read it three days ago, I can't possibly be expected to remember what the OP said. In any case, a lot of the Mac-obsessed people I know think it looks pretty shit, and don't see the point in it. Maybe they're just not culty enough.Kmarion wrote:
Would not affect the cult right? You didn't ignore the first post in this thread did you?
I can't say it's shit. Maybe we just have a different definition of shit. I don't see me buying it. Not necessarily because I wouldn't like to chill out on the couch browsing the web, reading a mag, or watching some video with a tablet. But rather the cost doesn't make it a viable buy considering I already have a netbook and a laptop.
would I like to buy a Zune HD? Sure but..
btw I had just as many iPods before them .
would I like to buy a Zune HD? Sure but..
btw I had just as many iPods before them .
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I think it's more that it would have been unbelievable easy to make a great product, and somehow they decided they didn't want to.
Why is that? I dunno. It's not logical. A cam should have been a relatively inexpensive addition. It could still be slim and it's not going to kill battery life or give off excessive heat. If you start getting into multi-tasking and flash support those can be intensive work, so I kind of understand. Maybe they are banking on html 5 replacing flash? Not soon enough.
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Multitasking would not have been a big deal - lower powered Android phones can do it and I still get good battery life. Why can't a company like Apple who designs their software to work in perfect harmony with the hardware make a machine that cannot do proper multitasking? Hell, RIM has been doing it since the early 2000s.Kmarion wrote:
Why is that? I dunno. It's not logical. A cam should have been a relatively inexpensive addition. It could still be slim and it's not going to kill battery life or give off excessive heat. If you start getting into multi-tasking and flash support those can be intensive work, so I kind of understand. Maybe they are banking on html 5 replacing flash? Not soon enough.
If ASUS built a pad, though, with more features, there is no way it would cost more than the most expensive iPad.
damn Kmarion...Kmarion wrote:
I can't say it's shit. Maybe we just have a different definition of shit. I don't see me buying it. Not necessarily because I wouldn't like to chill out on the couch browsing the web, reading a mag, or watching some video with a tablet. But rather the cost doesn't make it a viable buy considering I already have a netbook and a laptop.
would I like to buy a Zune HD? Sure but..
http://i48.tinypic.com/q1cj.jpg
btw I had just as many iPods before them .
I still don't get why tablets are so cool - you always have to hold them... at the very least a little folding stand could be built into it so you could stand it up on a table in an airplane or something like that, you know?
Something like that would be sold as an accesory for sure?CapnNismo wrote:
I still don't get why tablets are so cool - you always have to hold them... at the very least a little folding stand could be built into it so you could stand it up on a table in an airplane or something like that, you know?
a beautiful, white crApple tablet stand accessory - only 150€
Not necessarily true. Well, with Apple that would certainly be the case. But there have been many MIDs and UMPCs (and other tablets) that have had stands built into the back.baggs wrote:
Something like that would be sold as an accesory for sure?CapnNismo wrote:
I still don't get why tablets are so cool - you always have to hold them... at the very least a little folding stand could be built into it so you could stand it up on a table in an airplane or something like that, you know?
I watched some of the keynote speech and the device is certainly gorgeous - Apple does very well in the GUI category, that's for sure. But the functionality is just... it just doesn't justify the cost in this case.
So I leave for 4 days and this thread has 10 pages.. I'm to lazy to read them. Someone want to explain what happened here.
bf2s: ipad sucks mayneRTHKI wrote:
So I leave for 4 days and this thread has 10 pages.. I'm to lazy to read them. Someone want to explain what happened here.
rest of bf2s: pretty much
I forget I'm holding my kindle. I bet the experience would be close to the same when it comes to holding the iPad. My Kindle was also around this price when I bought it ($399). Kindles sales were through the roof when it was released, back ordered. I think reading a book on the kindle is better though (even though it's not full color). Some people want a backlit display. I don't when reading a book. You just don't feel like you are reading a book on an LED screen.CapnNismo wrote:
I still don't get why tablets are so cool - you always have to hold them... at the very least a little folding stand could be built into it so you could stand it up on a table in an airplane or something like that, you know?
I also heard a theory that ATT didn't want apple to have a camera for bandwidth reason. "Sure we won't wont make them commit to contract, but forget about streaming video". That makes sense.
There is some good coverage here for anyone wanting to watch (Click watch video). It addresses the pros/cons and nearly everything else that has been brought up in this thread.
I'm still on the fence. How the developers work with the iPad and the iPad specific apps they make for it will make the difference iThink. Someone asked me yesterday if I wanted one. I said yes I want one. But is it worth the purchase? TBD
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The only use I could ever see for a thing such as this would be if I wanted to watch movies on a bigger screen on a long bus/car ride. Unfortunately, this thing is way too slow to play 720p and is 4:3 (wtf?). Also 64GB max hard drive
If it was widescreen, could play HD and had a reasonable hard drive I would seriously consider getting one. And an OLED screen would make it perfect
If it was widescreen, could play HD and had a reasonable hard drive I would seriously consider getting one. And an OLED screen would make it perfect
Widescreen wouldn't have felt right. Yea, memory thing I don't understand with most popular device. The cost of memory has free fallen over the last two years yet devices seem to ignore this fact. Some, like the zune hd, have actually cut back. I haven't seen anything that said it was too slow to play 720p. Link me?
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Thing is this guy thinks this shit will replace or is better than netbooks, he said it himself:
So when people talk about how it shouldn't be compared to netbooks, how it should be given its space, how they want to try it before dismissing it, all of that shit, think about what this Job guy said himself about it all.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8483654.stmMr Jobs dismissed netbooks as "just cheap laptops".
"Netbooks aren't better at anything - they're slow and have low quality displays," he told the audience.
"They're not a third category device, but we have something that we think is."
So when people talk about how it shouldn't be compared to netbooks, how it should be given its space, how they want to try it before dismissing it, all of that shit, think about what this Job guy said himself about it all.
Apple has never defined it's customers by how cheap they can manufacture their products. Obviously.CapnNismo wrote:
Multitasking would not have been a big deal - lower powered Android phones can do it and I still get good battery life. Why can't a company like Apple who designs their software to work in perfect harmony with the hardware make a machine that cannot do proper multitasking? Hell, RIM has been doing it since the early 2000s.Kmarion wrote:
Why is that? I dunno. It's not logical. A cam should have been a relatively inexpensive addition. It could still be slim and it's not going to kill battery life or give off excessive heat. If you start getting into multi-tasking and flash support those can be intensive work, so I kind of understand. Maybe they are banking on html 5 replacing flash? Not soon enough.
If ASUS built a pad, though, with more features, there is no way it would cost more than the most expensive iPad.
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Keep watching. Not everyone is sold.Mekstizzle wrote:
Thing is this guy thinks this shit will replace or is better than netbooks, he said it himself:http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8483654.stmMr Jobs dismissed netbooks as "just cheap laptops".
"Netbooks aren't better at anything - they're slow and have low quality displays," he told the audience.
"They're not a third category device, but we have something that we think is."
So when people talk about how it shouldn't be compared to netbooks, how it should be given its space, how they want to try it before dismissing it, all of that shit, think about what this Job guy said himself about it all.
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I wasnt meaning this product itself, just a concept in my head. That would be a perfect device IMO.Kmarion wrote:
Widescreen wouldn't have felt right. Yea, memory thing I don't understand with most popular device. The cost of memory has free fallen over the last two years yet devices seem to ignore this fact. Some, like the zune hd, have actually cut back. I haven't seen anything that said it was too slow to play 720p. Link me?
I also dont know about 720p, but my Touch cant. Plus it cant play x264 anyways can it? I think its quite reasonable to assume 1GHz processor will struggle with 720p and 1080p is out of the question.
Isnt the iPad using a LCD screen, just like a netbook? How is its display better? It has a crappy resolution too
132 pixels per inch is not too bad for something that size. It's an LED-backlit IPS display. Oled would have been rockin, albeit much more expensive. This is a custom arm based processor. The gigahurtz wars stopped about 4 years ago, when people realized power depended on so much more. I've heard it's blazing fast. When I see some more actual hands on and tested reviews that say it can't handle 720p then I'll accept it. We simply have no reason to think that it can't handle it now.
You left GPS off of your perfect device list. I think thats becoming more and more a must.
You left GPS off of your perfect device list. I think thats becoming more and more a must.
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Depends on what the user wants it for. As a photographer out in the field I'd rather dump my images on a tablet and quickly flip through my images to show my customers as opposed to unfolding and using a netbook. There is a certain cool factor (like pinch and zoom) there that could impress clients. I know that might not sound like much to gamers who look strictly at horsepower, but believe when I say presentation matters in sales.CapnNismo wrote:
I watched some of the keynote speech and the device is certainly gorgeous - Apple does very well in the GUI category, that's for sure. But the functionality is just... it just doesn't justify the cost in this case.
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