BF2S Forums 'Cult' of Apple hangs on Wednesday announcement

http://www.crunchgear.com/2010/01/27/ap … -adapters/

$ ofc. An sd slot wouldn't cut it for most dslr users anyways.

Kmarion wrote:

http://www.crunchgear.com/2010/01/27/apple-has-a-solution-for-the-ipads-missing-sd-card-slot-and-usb-port-adapters/

That's a joke, surely?

That's one of my biggest complaints about Apple: They just suck the money out of their customers. Would a USB port honestly have been that difficult to implement? Even a mini or a micro at the very least? It's not like USB ports are very large at all. Look at what some adapters (even the shitty headphones!) cost in their online shop. The prices are ridiculous.

Kmarion wrote:

CapnNismo wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

Why is that? I dunno. It's not logical. A cam should have been a relatively inexpensive addition. It could still be slim and it's not going to kill battery life or give off excessive heat. If you start getting into multi-tasking and flash support those can be intensive work, so I kind of understand. Maybe they are banking on html 5 replacing flash? Not soon enough.

Multitasking would not have been a big deal - lower powered Android phones can do it and I still get good battery life. Why can't a company like Apple who designs their software to work in perfect harmony with the hardware make a machine that cannot do proper multitasking? Hell, RIM has been doing it since the early 2000s.

If ASUS built a pad, though, with more features, there is no way it would cost more than the most expensive iPad.

Apple has never defined it's customers by how cheap they can manufacture their products. Obviously.

Exactly. So why do devices with clearly lower specs and quality have so many more features than Apple products if Apple really doesn't care too much about the price tag at the end of the day, anyway? It's clear Apple has no qualms about having a high MSRP on all their products and never selling them at very discounted rates to retailers. So again: Why does Apple constantly take basic features out of their devices? You can't even get an SD card with a baseline Macbook and you already have to shell out at least $1000 to get that!

Kmarion wrote:

CapnNismo wrote:

I watched some of the keynote speech and the device is certainly gorgeous - Apple does very well in the GUI category, that's for sure. But the functionality is just... it just doesn't justify the cost in this case.

Depends on what the user wants it for. As a photographer out in the field I'd rather dump my images on a tablet and quickly flip through my images to show my customers as opposed to unfolding and using a netbook. There is a certain cool factor (like pinch and zoom) there that could impress clients. I know that might not sound like much to gamers who look strictly at horsepower, but believe when I say presentation matters in sales.

I'm sorry, but I am a bit skeptical that this iPad has the power to access all the raw photos off a DSLR (and you STILL need an adapter to do that!) and be able to display them all that efficiently. But then, since you can't multitask and really do very much in the background, maybe that's the only reason the device is as quick as it is - because the processor is almost always devoted to a single task... what a cop out.

Sorry, but I'd rather have one of the 13" Macbook Pros - at least then you know you have the processing power on hand on a small enough and light enough package. Same story with Sony's 12" business Vaios that have lots of processing power under the hood. The iPad is a device that does many things, but seems to do none of them well. The App Store is going to be what is going to make or break the device, end of story.

Up to 10 hours of surfing the web on Wi-Fi, watching video, or listening to music

Notice the OR in there... betcha can't listen to music and surf the web at the same time... Android OS can.

Kmarion wrote:

I'm actually bearish about the iPad. But the lack of imagination here is really disheartening. Development for iPad specific apps have just begun.

This.

I'm put off by one big thing - the massive black borders. There are all the niggling flaws that new Apple releases always have - or feature enhancement opportunities, to give them their proper name.

But despite the problems they are very nice. But I won't really know till I've tried one (should be sometime next week).


BTW - to all those bitching about lack of multi tasking, don't expect to see any multi tasking any time soon on this or the iPhone. Both are capable of doing it (and some apps do multi task) but multi tasking is something that Apple don't let developers incorporate in apps and don't allow through the OS interface. Multi tasking has a big impact on battery life and performance. These aspects of the "user experience" are far more important to Apple than a bit of multi tasking - and the people who bitch about multi tasking, really aren't their target market.

There are some notable exceptions:

CapnNismo wrote:

betcha can't listen to music and surf the web at the same time... Android OS can

Of course you can. Just like you can on the iPhone.

Kmarion wrote:

This reeks of the whole.."they are only successful because of fanbois". Sorry I don't buy it. At least not completely. As I've said, over and over, apple appeals to more than people who just want this performance @ this price. Some people just don't get it, and quite frankely I've given up on trying to explain.

I don't mind skepticism. I just can't stand the fuck it, it won't work attitude by people that probably have never even sat behind an Apple product. It's pretty easy to tell who has and who hasn't. It's not a netbook/macbook. Does it have some characteristics, like portability? Sure. But it also has features that most of them don't have. People keep referencing well if I wanted to do this I can use my touch.. If I wanted to do "this" I can use my netbook. What they fail to see is what if someone wants to do a little of this and a little of that. That is the audience Apple has defined with this device..

I'm actually bearish about the iPad. But the lack of imagination here is really disheartening. Development for iPad specific apps have just begun.

I just think with a few minor changes they could have made a great product. And dropped the black bezel, at least at the sides. And I can't decide if you're pointing at me with those comments.

Bertster, as I recall, you can't listen to something like Pandora and also run Safari at the same time on the iPhone...

CapnNismo wrote:

Bertster, as I recall, you can't listen to something like Pandora and also run Safari at the same time on the iPhone...

???

Yes you can

android users are well-researched

apple users are fanboys

evidence above

Kmarion: I agree with you, conclusions have been drawn way too early. I am just majorly disapointed in the design and the lacking features you've already mentioned. I mean, this product (still) has a ton of potential, but it hasn't been "unleashed" yet.

I mean, how fucking sexy would it be to have this as a controll panel for your house? Lights, music, TV, caller-ID. I also wonder how this'll evolve in the business scene - photography being the most obvious, but I can also see products like this in real-estate, graphic design, etc etc etc.

It'll be fun to watch the developement, but I won't draw any conclusions yet. It's Apple, it'll most likely be a success.

Bertster7 wrote:

Jenspm wrote:

I mean, how fucking sexy would it be to have this as a controll panel for your house? Lights, music, TV, caller-ID.

There's an app for that.

Well there you go