It would make it more fun for snipers to know they use a stealth kit cause for a comander its to easy to find a sniper and sniper are not so powerfull if you know where they are....Would make it more fun for all snipers out there...
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Since UAV and Sat may be using Thermal or other advanced imaging why wouldn't they detect a Sniper? Make him invisible to the 'naked' eye of the zoomed-in commander only if the Sniper has been prone and stationary for 30 seconds without firing maybe...
many think we have enough snipers as it is, but you have an exxxcellent point, at the least the uav should be some how less effective on a hidden prone sniper
They wouldn't make snipers invisible to UAVs or scans without there being some sort of personal cloaking device that is actually in real life. You can't just say "Oh, snipers have the super power to be invisible to UAVs and scans."
Last edited by _j5689_ (2006-02-11 11:24:32)
That s really an interesting point I d say.
But keep the "in RL it would be like this" out plz it doesnt really matter.
But keep the "in RL it would be like this" out plz it doesnt really matter.
Sniper in BF2 should definitely have anti-heat detection suits but if they fire during the UAV then a little dot show up for like 3 second...but everytimes i comanded i could spot every single snipers for my team so easily and then they always get a full squad looking for the easy knife kill.. They seriouly have to remove snipers from the scans like if they were using antiheat detection suits...
Last edited by J0hn.F.Kenedy (2006-02-11 11:27:34)
No I think it's a bad idea.
Simply because if the last man alive on one of the teams is a sniper and he's well hidden and invisible to UAV's and scans the other team will not be able to find him and it would drag out the round longer than it should and people would simply get fed up and leave.
Simply because if the last man alive on one of the teams is a sniper and he's well hidden and invisible to UAV's and scans the other team will not be able to find him and it would drag out the round longer than it should and people would simply get fed up and leave.
rounds never takes long when all flags are gone....and same thing appens with jet im often the last men when im in a jet and i usualy land and try to take a base since i know unless im in a bomber good luck killing me lol...but it would just be part of the game was there any UAV in bf 1942 lol
Hmm well I agree the sniper should be detected by the scan and uav as soon as the team has no flags left.
One time we had a n00b commander and he didnt spot the last guy when all flags had been taken. We found him after 10 minutes out in the water......very annoying
One time we had a n00b commander and he didnt spot the last guy when all flags had been taken. We found him after 10 minutes out in the water......very annoying
ye i agree should be detectabla once we got no flags left(sniper got scared a riped his suit) but until then sniper should be a sneaky kit !!!
I hope Ea read this !!
I hope Ea read this !!
Last edited by J0hn.F.Kenedy (2006-02-11 11:43:52)
I love the sniper kit, and while it would be totally awesome if it was implemented, it would give too much of an advantage to snipers. A good sniper can avoid a "whole squad looking for the easy knife kill" with proper claymore placement and keeping an eye on surroundings.
Honestly, just play the sniper kit on your favorite map over and over again, and you will get better at finding the right hiding places and how to protect yourself, you won't need to be invisible from UAV.
Unless you get a noob commander who wants to waste an Arty strike on you, then you're fucked (half the time).
Honestly, just play the sniper kit on your favorite map over and over again, and you will get better at finding the right hiding places and how to protect yourself, you won't need to be invisible from UAV.
Unless you get a noob commander who wants to waste an Arty strike on you, then you're fucked (half the time).
Good to be back.
i think it would open the sniper kit up alot if there undectalbe but comprmise is needed to improve the kits playablity
good snipers rarely get knifed because good snipers aren't somewhere on the edge of the map sitting still in a bush waiting for somebody to pass into their crosshairs. that's the kind of sniping that gets you knifed, and that's that kind of sniping that gets you four kills by the end of the round.
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The kit it totally playable, its just actually a kit that takes a huge amount of PRACTICE to become better with. It's not Assault where you can GL someone to the face with relative ease, or Medic with the insanely powered G36E (which I <3 much), it's a kit where you have to make every shot count, and avoid detection above all else.
Don't dumb the kit down so more noobs can pick up a rifle and claim skill, just play with it more ofter and aquire that skill.
The kit it totally playable, its just actually a kit that takes a huge amount of PRACTICE to become better with. It's not Assault where you can GL someone to the face with relative ease, or Medic with the insanely powered G36E (which I <3 much), it's a kit where you have to make every shot count, and avoid detection above all else.
Don't dumb the kit down so more noobs can pick up a rifle and claim skill, just play with it more ofter and aquire that skill.
Good to be back.
Hey, interesting thread!
I agree that the "UAV dont se sniper" idea was a good and interesting idea, cuz a sniper in real war is very dangerous unless its spotted! I think my self that snipers in BF2 isnt really that good when UAV and Scan se them all the time! But then again, wouldnt it be a bit hard or unfear if a sniper was really good hidden, and no one can find him? Well, its a good idea anyway cus its a challange!
Should have been like this, and on it info it would have sayd on abillyties "Cant be seen by UAV while phroned" or something.
Hmm, dunno how a real UAV works but, dosent a UAV make it possible for the commander to se from a satelite view down on the battle area, so he can se everything thats going on and then spot the enemie? I might be wrong ofc! got a little idea on that one i would like to add tho! Cus when (if im right) the UAV scans the area in a circle, would it be able to se the people thats under a roof or something? If not, it would have been funny if u could not be spotted by UAV if ur under a roof etc!? Or only the sniper could no have been spotted when hes not visible from the GTA 2 view?
Maybe it would have been to unbalanced or unfear? Im really not sure cus im not a veteran BF2 player and i dunno anything about a real UAV! It really bothers me that ur beeing spotted all the time in BF2, dosent feel like i can sneak around ore anything! But then again, i remember BF1942 when there was this one last guy left that no one found!
I agree that the "UAV dont se sniper" idea was a good and interesting idea, cuz a sniper in real war is very dangerous unless its spotted! I think my self that snipers in BF2 isnt really that good when UAV and Scan se them all the time! But then again, wouldnt it be a bit hard or unfear if a sniper was really good hidden, and no one can find him? Well, its a good idea anyway cus its a challange!
Should have been like this, and on it info it would have sayd on abillyties "Cant be seen by UAV while phroned" or something.
Hmm, dunno how a real UAV works but, dosent a UAV make it possible for the commander to se from a satelite view down on the battle area, so he can se everything thats going on and then spot the enemie? I might be wrong ofc! got a little idea on that one i would like to add tho! Cus when (if im right) the UAV scans the area in a circle, would it be able to se the people thats under a roof or something? If not, it would have been funny if u could not be spotted by UAV if ur under a roof etc!? Or only the sniper could no have been spotted when hes not visible from the GTA 2 view?
Maybe it would have been to unbalanced or unfear? Im really not sure cus im not a veteran BF2 player and i dunno anything about a real UAV! It really bothers me that ur beeing spotted all the time in BF2, dosent feel like i can sneak around ore anything! But then again, i remember BF1942 when there was this one last guy left that no one found!
The only thing the sniper in BF2 needs is a more accurate rifle!
stupid idea. The game would be full of nothing but snipers hiding and camping.
UAV = unmanned aerial vehicle. Pretty much a tiny, (and obviously unmanned) expendable plane that flies around and uses cameras and in some cases radar or other types of detection methods. I am pretty sure they can also be used to spot for laser guided bombs.Wargru wrote:
Hmm, dunno how a real UAV works but, dosent a UAV make it possible for the commander to se from a satelite view down on the battle area, so he can se everything thats going on and then spot the enemie?
The Commanders scan, which reveals whole screen is coming from a satelite.
maybe not invicible on the scan but invisible on the UAV.
so a squad really has to work with the commander to find a sniper. also the snipers tag shouldn't show up so fast. and a better blend with the inviroment would be great too.
but a sniper must relocate very often to be effective. and that is what most BF2 snipers don't do maybe there are just not enough "pretty unknown" sniper spots but I certainly think a snipers life could be eased some
so a squad really has to work with the commander to find a sniper. also the snipers tag shouldn't show up so fast. and a better blend with the inviroment would be great too.
but a sniper must relocate very often to be effective. and that is what most BF2 snipers don't do maybe there are just not enough "pretty unknown" sniper spots but I certainly think a snipers life could be eased some
I like it the way it is now, I seperates the real snipers from the noobs hiding with a big gun. I also think that the sniper rifles are accurate enough I have very little problem taking guys out at long range. Do you really wanna make a new batch of wanna be snipers and all the real ones that much more lethal. The biggest problem with sniping is ping, if its bad you can't hita thing if it good you get headshots on guys that are running. Snipers aren't very useful if they are staying I one out of the way spot. Run around there is a battle gonning on, you wanna wait for someone to walk into your field of fire. PS I love camping snipers, i know where they want to camp and they aren't usely moving much=easy kills.
the scan picks up heat and the uav flys around with a camara so the real improvement would be if you were hiding in a building or under a humvee capping a falg the uav doesnt see you.
Ya ok give the snipers total stealth but limit them to one sniper per 32 other kits....
but...but...they do!_j5689_ wrote:
You can't just say "Oh, snipers have the super power to be invisible to UAVs and scans."
If someone is hiding in or under a pine tree, well any type of plant that is simillar to that, can and will avoid infrared and heat detection due to the cover...
Hmm, really mutch in this game that very unrealistic! Example, i hit a airplain in the cockpit with a tank shot yesterday and it keept flying, i only made it smokedonttouchmyshizt wrote:
If someone is hiding in or under a pine tree, well any type of plant that is simillar to that, can and will avoid infrared and heat detection due to the cover...
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