stef
Member
+-6|7177
well i just came from moders and damn im pissed. I plant claymores and my teammates triggered them with purpose. how can people be so damn dumb that they trigger claymores with purpose. if you want to solve this problem i have got a solution. when they trigger the claymore they will lose 4 points and will die and 3 seconds after a new claymore will appear automatic. just hope EA will fix this problem so this must be why snipers hate to plant claymores and this is a shame since the claymore can be such a good anti personal weapon.
illuminati34
Member
+5|7079|michigan usa
i couldn't agree more.  it seems as soon as you plant a claymore in a stategic spot you get a teammate who either is "exploring" or watched you put somthing on the ground and wants a closer peek.  either that or a lot of people think red skulls are free global points.
RDMC_old
Member
+0|7164|Almere, Holland

stef wrote:

well i just came from moders and damn im pissed. I plant claymores and my teammates triggered them with purpose. how can people be so damn dumb that they trigger claymores with purpose. if you want to solve this problem i have got a solution. when they trigger the claymore they will lose 4 points and will die and 3 seconds after a new claymore will appear automatic. just hope EA will fix this problem so this must be why snipers hate to plant claymores and this is a shame since the claymore can be such a good anti personal weapon.
lol.. If i am right in the next patch they cant be blown up again.. by grenades and such maybe I am wrong and was this only for the mines.. but sometimes this is necessary cause when i am on karkand and want to get on the roof and some stupid sniper has planted claymore I get pissed damn sniper
tF-afrojap
Member
+124|7275|SF
moving to Complain.
stef
Member
+-6|7177
so say then its necessary. look here are you just not a bit selfish. you dont give a fu-ck whether you teammate gets punished. look here he was there first then he has the right to do it. go find another place to fight from and i know i could not do that thing.
Zukabazuka
Member
+23|7114
First it depends on where you put it, if its around your own flag then you need to know that there are more than just 1 sniper on your team that want to be where you are.
lavadisk
I am a cat ¦ 3
+369|7258|Denver colorado
okay. STAY AWAY FROM CLAYS. thats what we all need to do.

btw. when the patch says we fixed that ladder bug dose that mean anything about claymores planted at your face?
jord
Member
+2,382|7106|The North, beyond the wall.
in the next patch you can pick your own up by pressing g i think.
tor11
Grunt
+18|7188|Os , Norway

jord wrote:

in the next patch you can pick your own up by pressing g i think.
Nope they remowed that one, said it was too early too let it loose on the public!
jord
Member
+2,382|7106|The North, beyond the wall.

tor11 wrote:

jord wrote:

in the next patch you can pick your own up by pressing g i think.
Nope they remowed that one, said it was too early too let it loose on the public!
WHAT?what the hell is the patch changing then?
Horseman 77
Banned
+160|7265
In the New patch if you trip more than 2 friendly mines or Claymores on an EA ranked server, an EA employees is dispatched to your home and puts the tip of your penis in a pair of Klien Tools Lineman Pliers ( they have a serated grip )
and squeezes hard for 25 seconds,
Second offense is 40 seconds. Third offense involves a hammer but ask ShiftKey as he is the only gut to ever get it. Bunny hop attemps envolve an A1 steak suace Colonic as do Dolphin dives
DU
Member
+0|7084
Snipers eat shit, and get what they deserve.  Sniper = wasted server space!
jord
Member
+2,382|7106|The North, beyond the wall.

DU wrote:

Snipers eat shit, and get what they deserve.  Sniper = wasted server space!
No snipers play a vital role i think its  the case of"i recently got killed by a sniper,then tried to be a sniper and i suck at it therefore there worthless".
Jobarra
Member
+0|7109

DU wrote:

Snipers eat shit, and get what they deserve.  Sniper = wasted server space!
Yes, I'm a waste of space with my gold medal finishes as a sniper kit using only Claymores.

As to the original poster, not much can be done.  I have literally watched someone walk up to my claymore, stand there for 10 seconds staring DOWN at it, then walk right over it.  You stand there that long, there are a few things that you know for sure:
a) You aren't dead, so the claymore wasn't facing you.
b) In that amount of time staring at it, you CAN tell that it IS a claymore AND what direction it is armed for.
c) Hey, you can cause someone to get negative points, so why not? *boom*

For those few teammates who DO accidently trip WELL-placed Claymores(if you set them at your own spawn points, you deserve the negatives), the one thing I can think of that would be helpful is possibly a different warning that shows teammates that it is a claymore.  Possibly even a directional arrow showing where the Claymore is pointing.
happybhoy74
Member
+0|7084
In the world of Battlefield EVERY day is 'Hug a claymore' Day
1to1SNIPER
the_heart_attack is my god!
+0|7083
thats the problem with BF2 everyone runs around using noobtubes or satchel charges and think they have skill but as soon as they get hit by a sniper they have a cry.

sniping is where the skill is, for example sharqi if you have just one sniper on the crane you can control four of the control points against infantry.
RDMC_old
Member
+0|7164|Almere, Holland

DU wrote:

Snipers eat shit, and get what they deserve.  Sniper = wasted server space!
Noobs like you who say this are wasting server space
Kung Jew
That one mod
+331|7174|Houston, TX
http://bf2s.com/player/46218418
This guy is such a waste of server space I call him my sniper role model...

Finn if you read this, someday I'll find you on a server and try to call you out on a vs match. (when I'm good enough too....)

"Now the student has become the Master"

Last edited by Kung Jew (2006-02-13 09:49:31)

DU
Member
+0|7084

RDMC wrote:

DU wrote:

Snipers eat shit, and get what they deserve.  Sniper = wasted server space!
Noobs like you who say this are wasting server space
I love noob snipers like you = easy kill.
BeforeGod
Member
+0|7243|British Columbia
For the most part I have to say the snipers deserve the punishes, at least when it comes to ladders. In my experience most snipers place their mines far too close to the edge of the ladder. This is probably because they want to grab a free kill from some enemy climbing up there.

Now the big problem with that is that the claymore is supposed to be something to cover a sniper's rear instead of gaining him kills. They can be just as effective if placed well back from the ladder, preventing both friendly and enemy soldiers (at least those with eyes) from finishing their climb when they see the claymore. Since no weapons can be fired until off the ladder the sniper has just eliminated the risk of being shot in the back without risking a TK.

In the case of snipers who want to use their mines to get cheap kills, well there are certain consequences that come with that. Either use the claymores' in a manner that doesn't jepordize your team needlessly or expect TK punishes.

DU wrote:

Sniper = wasted server space!
Agreed. Grap a real gun, cap a flag, and help your team.
[GDC]SinnFein
Got Whiskey?
+63|7215|Meiriceá - frm 'Real Capital'

Kung Jew wrote:

http://bf2s.com/player/46218418
This guy is such a waste of server space I call him my sniper role model...

Finn if you read this, someday I'll find you on a server and try to call you out on a vs match. (when I'm good enough too....)

"Now the student has become the Master"
LOL, Thanks la...Hell, we'll go DU hunting together:)
Kung Jew
That one mod
+331|7174|Houston, TX

[GDC]SinnFein wrote:

Kung Jew wrote:

http://bf2s.com/player/46218418
This guy is such a waste of server space I call him my sniper role model...

Finn if you read this, someday I'll find you on a server and try to call you out on a vs match. (when I'm good enough too....)

"Now the student has become the Master"
LOL, Thanks la...Hell, we'll go DU hunting together:)
You're on.  A spicy 15 yr Laphroaig to the winner.  First to 10 DU kills is it?



KJ
DSRTurtle
Member
+56|7114
Snipers play a valuable role.  On some maps, you only need one good sniper and he can guard your team's arty from the enemy.  If I trip a claymore, I never punish.  I was too damned dumb for my own good.  The same goes for AT mines.  If you trip your teammate's claymore or AT mine, don't punish him for your stupidity.
BeforeGod
Member
+0|7243|British Columbia
Oh dear I don't spend every waking hour playing BF2, everything I say must be wrong. If the best you can do to refute what I said is trawling through my stats then it gives me a fair amount of confidance that I'm right.

[GDC]SinnFein wrote:

On most maps if you were using anything else but:  hand grenades, c4 and a knife you probably were a determing factor in your team losing considering your outstanding k/d ratio!
That's some nice selective stats reading you've got going on. Last time I checked a few of the maps had things called vehicles, if you looked at my overall K/D ratio you wouldn't say something like that.

[GDC]SinnFein wrote:

Explosives     457     421     1.09             NICE job, beforegod, I think your +k/d on c4 chucks, wtfg!
Why would you even say that? If you had scrolled down a little bit more you could have read my explosives stats. The majority of my explosives kills are from AT mines, I don't even have a positive K/D with C4.

[GDC]SinnFein wrote:

Shotgun     1281     1657     0.77                   Agggh finally...your wep of choice....nuff said.
What's your point? People who have a positive K/D with the M1187 aren't all that common. It's kind of funny that you posted my stats with weapons since I have a better K/D ratio then you in all of them except sniper rifles, AT rockets, explosives and grenades.

[GDC]SinnFein wrote:

Sniper Rifle     8     18     0.44                       And heeeerrrree's johnny! no wonder why u hate us:) lmfao
You'll also notice that out of almost 150 hours played I've used the sniper kit for 26 minutes right? Since you've played over 512 hours as a sniper I think it makes sense that you would be better at that kit than me.

I "hate" snipers because they don't help their team in the majority of cases. There's much more to this game then racking up kills, which is something most snipers aren't all that good at anyway. I play as an engineer, I fix the assets, I repair friendly vehicles and I cap flags. It might not get me a killer K/D ratio (overall it is still positive though) but it helps my team a whole lot more than proning in a corner of the map occasionally taking potshots at people.

It was nice of you not to mention my vehicle or teamwork stats, but since those don't support your slander quite so well it's understandable that you omitted them. For the record those that need to dredge up others stats to support their argument tend to look bad, especially when they don't do a very good job at it.

I stand by what I said. For the most part snipers hinder their team more than they help it.
[GDC]SinnFein
Got Whiskey?
+63|7215|Meiriceá - frm 'Real Capital'

BeforeGod wrote:

I "hate" snipers because they don't help their team in the majority of cases. There's much more to this game then racking up kills, which is something most snipers aren't all that good at anyway. I play as an engineer, I fix the assets, I repair friendly vehicles and I cap flags. It might not get me a killer K/D ratio (overall it is still positive though) but it helps my team a whole lot more than proning in a corner of the map occasionally taking potshots at people.

It was nice of you not to mention my vehicle or teamwork stats, but since those don't support your slander quite so well it's understandable that you omitted them. For the record those that need to dredge up others stats to support their argument tend to look bad, especially when they don't do a very good job at it.

I stand by what I said. For the most part snipers hinder their team more than they help it.
Firstly....I absolutely suck at every single other aspect of the game, I'm average/below average with every single kit, I REPEAT, I DONOT THINK MY STATS ARE AT ALL THAT GREAT.

Now, you are absolutely correct in that I did not post your vehicle stats, I just got lazy. Your transport and armor, I'm sure are quite fine.

It, sir, is your generalizing all snipers in BF2 that got my goat. Teamwork?? Ok, your teamwork points = 1/3 your  combat score, for every 3 combat points you earn 1 team point.

My (the hiding prone in the corner potshotting people and not helping out the team) teamwork points are 1/4 thats for every 4 combat I've earned 1 team point. Basically we are NOT that much different in team point ratio's (or as you calll it...helping out the team)

As I said, maybe I need to repeat how exactly a team wins...50% of the flags then the bleed really starts moving. Now, Take my ~20 kills per map, while being a spawn point squad ldr, The K/d of every single person on your team at this point is exactly what turns losses into victories. If I'm 22-2 k/d thats a whole lot of ticket loss for the enemy, THAT is helping your team win. Everyone plays a viable role in this game, what about the engineer that isnt doing much repairing, isnt laying down mines, or the medic that countless posts have complained that they dont heal etc, support that dosnt support etc etc. Are they helping the team win more than the Scopeman covering 3 flags at once all the while watching over arty, uav and trailer?

I certainly didnt mean to trivialize your stats, but I guess I did a bit out of built up frustration over other's mouths. I did take that out on you unfairly just because you said you 'hate' snipers. Similar to me saying, " I hate Engineers because they cannot shoot anyone beyond 15ft infront of thier noses.


Again, I was ill-tempered and unfairly persecuted you for the hundreds of others comments.

Regards,
Sinny

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