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Dilbert_X wrote:

Trying to control an insurgency with helicopter gunships is fucking dumb.

Kmarion wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

Trying to control an insurgency with helicopter gunships is fucking dumb.

Weren't they supporting troops on the ground?

Kmarion wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

Yes we take our cues from the majority of real world experience. No rationale person looks to a video game to learn right and wrong. I do not believe that video game experience desensitizes anyone to the reality of war. No one walks into a recruiting office and says I've taken life before based on their COD4 experience. No normal person at least. There is a very real difference and I am absolutely sure you understand that.

I do understand it completely but I don't think you are grasping the fact that the vast majority of soldiers play or have played video games, including war simulation games. It's not out of the scope of reality to expect a soldier to shout the same things he has heard in a video game. Things like "Get some" etc. In fact, it would be expected, since those phrases came from real life first and have been passed down through the ranks over generations. I bet if video footage had been taken of a marine squad in a similar situation those viewing, it such as those here in DST, would find their behavior to be even less 'professional'.

They've been shouting those things (which I've explained is understandable) for generations, long before video games. There is a distinguishable line between laughing at a game and the reality of someone rolling over a real person. Laughing in a game, and not laughing at it in a real situation is not hypocritical. I gathered that was your implication with Taz.

JohnG@lt wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

I do understand it completely but I don't think you are grasping the fact that the vast majority of soldiers play or have played video games, including war simulation games. It's not out of the scope of reality to expect a soldier to shout the same things he has heard in a video game. Things like "Get some" etc. In fact, it would be expected, since those phrases came from real life first and have been passed down through the ranks over generations. I bet if video footage had been taken of a marine squad in a similar situation those viewing, it such as those here in DST, would find their behavior to be even less 'professional'.

They've been shouting those things (which I've explained is understandable) for generations, long before video games. There is a distinguishable line between laughing at a game and the reality of someone rolling over a real person. Laughing in a game, and not laughing at it in a real situation is not hypocritical. I gathered that was your implication with Taz.

What would you rather they do, cry? At least they're displaying some emotion and not sitting there stone-facedly.

Kmarion wrote:

It's stress/adrenaline. Judging what they said while sitting comfortably behind a computer is not fair.

Kmarion wrote:

I was speaking to the point of what they said, and the laughter.. which is probably really why the pentagon didn't want to release this. Most people who have never experienced combat simply would not understand the emotional roller coaster. Testerone, the be all you can be, fuck you I'm better than enabler can show it's ugly side while communicating with your "brothers". It does not automatically equate to someone who is out of control.

Kmarion wrote:

Most people who have never experienced combat simply would not understand the emotional roller coaster. Testerone, the be all you can be, fuck you I'm better than enabler can show it's ugly side while communicating with your "brothers". It does not automatically equate to someone who is out of control.

ghettoperson wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

What would you rather they do, cry? At least they're displaying some emotion and not sitting there stone-facedly.

If you had read what I've been posting in this thread you would know that I am not saying their reaction was unacceptable or not understandable.

Kmarion wrote:

It's stress/adrenaline. Judging what they said while sitting comfortably behind a computer is not fair.

Kmarion wrote:

I was speaking to the point of what they said, and the laughter.. which is probably really why the pentagon didn't want to release this. Most people who have never experienced combat simply would not understand the emotional roller coaster. Testerone, the be all you can be, fuck you I'm better than enabler can show it's ugly side while communicating with your "brothers". It does not automatically equate to someone who is out of control.

You guys seem to be arguing a very similar point here...

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

I could be wrong, but isn't the press supposed to check in with the military?

ghettoperson wrote:

@Kerry: it just seems like you guys are caught up in the semantics of people being excited to shoot at people. It really doesn't matter, you're agreeing with each other; now get back to arguing with retards like Otto.