Jaekus
I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose
+957|5437|Sydney
I've got another thread going about a specific monitor, but I'm just getting more and more confused.

So please list your monitor manufacturers from highest to lowest. Then I can make some more sense of this and be more confident in shelling out $300.
Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6456|Winland

If you're looking at a TN LCD, you want Samsung.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
Sydney
2λчиэλ
+783|7102|Reykjavík, Iceland.
Dell and Samsung > all.
Jaekus
I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose
+957|5437|Sydney
I was looking at an Asus LED monitor, but now I'm not so sure.

Is it really worth it (LED I mean)? I'm going to be mainly gaming on it.
Sydney
2λчиэλ
+783|7102|Reykjavík, Iceland.

Jaekus wrote:

I was looking at an Asus LED monitor, but now I'm not so sure.

Is it really worth it (LED I mean)? I'm going to be mainly gaming on it.
It's worth it assuming the price difference is not too great.
Jaekus
I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose
+957|5437|Sydney
It's this one here.

It's at the upper limit of my budget.

Here's a Samsung monitor that looks good within my budget.

What do you think?
Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6456|Winland

Jaekus wrote:

I was looking at an Asus LED monitor, but now I'm not so sure.

Is it really worth it (LED I mean)? I'm going to be mainly gaming on it.
ASUS really aren't too good at making anything but motherboards. Some of their stuff is more plastic and flimsy than Acer's equivalents.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
Jaekus
I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose
+957|5437|Sydney
Hmm. I'm not intending on buying a new monitor in 12 months, the idea is to have something long term (by computing standards at least).
Jaekus
I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose
+957|5437|Sydney
More replies please people.

I should probably mention names here.

The ones my local computer parts store has are:

Acer
Asus
BenQ
LG
Philips
Samsung
Viewsonic (I'm pretty sure I should steer clear of this one though)
AOC (not sure about these ones either)

Last edited by Jaekus (2010-04-15 23:16:18)

Yellowman03
Once Again, We Meet at Last
+108|6493|Texas
Around $300

Samsung > Dell > LG > Hanns G > Acer > Asus > View Sonic

I'm really not sure about the lower ends, but you can't go wrong with a Samsung around that price.
mikkel
Member
+383|6860
LG have a few really terrific TN LCDs. Conversely, they also have a whole heap of junk on the market.
JohnJohnson747
Forced Induction???
+10|5430
Go to electronics store. Look at monitors. Purchase monitor from online website with lower price.
????
Profit!
Winston_Churchill
Bazinga!
+521|6997|Toronto | Canada

Yeah if its TN panels you want (aka the ones you see in stores) then Dell and Samsung is the way to go.  If you want really high end then Dell, HP and a bunch of companies you've probably never heard of are the best
Jaekus
I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose
+957|5437|Sydney
The problem I'm finding is the places that have monitors on display to check out haven't got the same ones I'm looking at buying from the places that strictly do internet orders only. Those places (internet orders) have very quick service, great customer support and far lower prices so I'd be stupid not to shop there.

My dilemma in a nutshell is I can't check out what I will buy for the above reasons, therefore my purchase will have to be a cold purchase so I'm trying to gather information from knowledgeable folk such as yourselves.

The more replies the better, because in the end I can go with the law of averages so to speak.

Thanks guys.
Yellowman03
Once Again, We Meet at Last
+108|6493|Texas
I and most of the tech team will tell you that you should find the best Samsung monitor in your price range. They are as good as it gets in the 200-400 range. If you ever go higher, you should look into Dell.
Jaekus
I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose
+957|5437|Sydney
For the place I buy parts from I can't buy Samsung with the features I want in the price range I want (mainly looking for HDMI and 2ms with full HD native resolution).

If I can't go with either Dell or Samsung, who else would be good? I know I'm asking questions asked before but I'm really trying to get clear about this. I've also been reading up on online monitor purchasing guides, but nothing beats a discussion with someone directly IMHO.
Jaekus
I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose
+957|5437|Sydney
After a lot of thought (a LOT) I'm leaning towards a BenQ G2222HDL

+
LED
Full HD
HDCP
21.5" (I have a small desk)
36 month warranty
$200

-
No HDMI
Doesn't come with a DVI cable (VGA only wtf)
Tilt only stand (this doesnt' bother me however)

I figure at $200 it'll do for a while until LED is more common and 3D becomes more affordable which should hopefully drop prices in 12-18 months time. It'll certainly be an improvement from my 9 year old 17" LCD.
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6840|SE London

Winston_Churchill wrote:

Yeah if its TN panels you want (aka the ones you see in stores) then Dell and Samsung is the way to go.  If you want really high end then Dell, HP and a bunch of companies you've probably never heard of are the best
Eizo are who you want for really high end.

But they're obscenely priced.
Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6456|Winland

Jaekus wrote:

After a lot of thought (a LOT) I'm leaning towards a BenQ G2222HDL

+
LED
Full HD
HDCP
21.5" (I have a small desk)
36 month warranty
$200

-
No HDMI
Doesn't come with a DVI cable (VGA only wtf)
Tilt only stand (this doesnt' bother me however)

I figure at $200 it'll do for a while until LED is more common and 3D becomes more affordable which should hopefully drop prices in 12-18 months time. It'll certainly be an improvement from my 9 year old 17" LCD.
If you buy Benq, you're also buying a guarantee that your monitor will fail within four years.

Just keep that in mind.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
Jaekus
I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose
+957|5437|Sydney
I'm intending to replace it in half that time so I'm not concerned at this stage. But thanks for the heads up.
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6840|SE London

Freezer7Pro wrote:

Jaekus wrote:

After a lot of thought (a LOT) I'm leaning towards a BenQ G2222HDL

+
LED
Full HD
HDCP
21.5" (I have a small desk)
36 month warranty
$200

-
No HDMI
Doesn't come with a DVI cable (VGA only wtf)
Tilt only stand (this doesnt' bother me however)

I figure at $200 it'll do for a while until LED is more common and 3D becomes more affordable which should hopefully drop prices in 12-18 months time. It'll certainly be an improvement from my 9 year old 17" LCD.
If you buy Benq, you're also buying a guarantee that your monitor will fail within four years.

Just keep that in mind.
Is this just their monitors? It's certainly something I've never seen any evidence of. The only BenQ product I own is my secondary projector, which is now on its 3rd bulb, each having lasted > 3000 hours. It's worked like a dream, despite a lot of abuse (being dropped, having the power lead pulled out while in operation etc.).

The only BenQ products I've ever supported were (~100, I think, it was a while ago now) monitors at a site I used to support. Not one DOA and not one of them failed while I was providing support to this business (nearly a year). To have no monitors fail in their 1st year out of 100 is not bad - but perhaps I've just been lucky with them.
presidentsheep
Back to the Fuhrer
+208|6220|Places 'n such
LG Dell and Samsung are good choices, steer clear of anything with the word UMC on it...
I'd type my pc specs out all fancy again but teh mods would remove it. Again.
Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6456|Winland

Bertster7 wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

Jaekus wrote:

After a lot of thought (a LOT) I'm leaning towards a BenQ G2222HDL

+
LED
Full HD
HDCP
21.5" (I have a small desk)
36 month warranty
$200

-
No HDMI
Doesn't come with a DVI cable (VGA only wtf)
Tilt only stand (this doesnt' bother me however)

I figure at $200 it'll do for a while until LED is more common and 3D becomes more affordable which should hopefully drop prices in 12-18 months time. It'll certainly be an improvement from my 9 year old 17" LCD.
If you buy Benq, you're also buying a guarantee that your monitor will fail within four years.

Just keep that in mind.
Is this just their monitors? It's certainly something I've never seen any evidence of. The only BenQ product I own is my secondary projector, which is now on its 3rd bulb, each having lasted > 3000 hours. It's worked like a dream, despite a lot of abuse (being dropped, having the power lead pulled out while in operation etc.).

The only BenQ products I've ever supported were (~100, I think, it was a while ago now) monitors at a site I used to support. Not one DOA and not one of them failed while I was providing support to this business (nearly a year). To have no monitors fail in their 1st year out of 100 is not bad - but perhaps I've just been lucky with them.
Benqs usually work fine until the caps in the power supply and backlight drivers are shot, and the backlight driver transistors fail due to the ripple. I've fixed over twenty of them bastards due to those two problems. On average, they last about three to four years, and the 22-inchers have started rolling in recently. All with the same damn problems.

Benqs are decent performance for the price if you can handle the cheap feel, but don't expect them to last. If you buy a lot of 100, they'll run fine for a while, but then they will all catastrophically fail, all at the same time.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
Jaekus
I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose
+957|5437|Sydney
Hmm. I'm still thinking about getting the BenQ monitor. They do one that supports HDMI and HDCP (BenQ V2210), but I doubt I'll use these features as: a) I don't watch tv; b) I don't watch movies at home (that's what the cinema is for lol); and c) I don't play console games anymore, haven't for years now. Plus it seems harder to track down here in Aus.

If it fails me in 4 years then so be it. By then I'd most likely have upgraded my entire system at least once anyway.
Winston_Churchill
Bazinga!
+521|6997|Toronto | Canada

Bertster7 wrote:

Winston_Churchill wrote:

Yeah if its TN panels you want (aka the ones you see in stores) then Dell and Samsung is the way to go.  If you want really high end then Dell, HP and a bunch of companies you've probably never heard of are the best
Eizo are who you want for really high end.

But they're obscenely priced.
"and a bunch of companies you've probably never heard of"



I'll stick to my somewhat-reasonably-priced-yet-still-incredibly-high-quality Dell IPS panels

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