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CammRobb wrote:

ghettoperson wrote:

I voted Conservative, in case anyone cares.

SNP here

Uzique wrote:

i voted in support of absolute monarchy and an immediate restoration of the feudal system, with my baronetcy being at once restored

Aries_37 wrote:

wow wasn't expecting that

Uzique wrote:

fuckin' A

how else am i going to keep my estate properly pruned and gardened

Bertster7 wrote:

CammRobb wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

Why not?

It's perfectly in character for them? They are just racist thugs.

Oh shut up.

It's true.

So are the bulk of their supporters.

CammRobb wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

CammRobb wrote:

Oh shut up.

It's true.

So are the bulk of their supporters.

So the 3 Asians were well within their rights to hassle the BNP members, and spit on one?

Last edited by pace51 (2010-05-06 12:28:19)

CammRobb wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

CammRobb wrote:

Oh shut up.

It's true.

So are the bulk of their supporters.

So the 3 Asians were well within their rights to hassle the BNP members, and spit on one?

CammRobb wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

CammRobb wrote:

Oh shut up.

It's true.

So are the bulk of their supporters.

So the 3 Asians were well within their rights to hassle the BNP members, and spit on one?

Scholars claim that the BNP has conducted right-wing extremist violence intended as a methodology to "seek institutionalized power".[248]  Critics of the BNP, such as Human Rights Watch in a 1997 report, have asserted that the party recruits from skinhead groups and that many believe it promotes racist violence.[249]

In the past, Nick Griffin has defended the threat of violence in furthering the party's aims. After the BNP won its first council seat in 1993, he wrote: "The electors of Millwall did not back a postmodernist rightist party, but what they perceived to be a strong, disciplined organisation with the ability to back up its slogan 'Defend Rights for Whites' with well-directed boots and fists. When the crunch comes, power is the product of force and will, not of rational debate." In 1997, believing he was addressing members of the French Front National, he said: "It is more important to control the streets of a city than its council chambers."[58] In January 1986, when Griffin was Deputy Chair of the NF, he advised his audience at an anti-IRA rally to use the "traditional British methods of the brick, the boot and the fist."[250]

The BNP defends itself by arguing that over 20% of the working population has some criminal record or another and that a large proportion of MPs, councillors and activists in the other three main parties also have unsatisfactory past records.

A BBC Panorama programme reported on a number of BNP members who have had criminal convictions, some racially motivated. The BBC's list is extensive. Some of the more notable convictions include:

    * John Tyndall had a number of convictions including assault, organising and participating in paramilitary neo-Nazi activities. In 1986 he was convicted and jailed for conspiracy to publish material likely to incite racial hatred.[251]
    * In 1998, Nick Griffin was convicted of violating section 19 of the Public Order Act 1986, relating to incitement to racial hatred. He received a nine-month prison sentence, suspended for two years, and was fined £2,300.[252]
    * Kevin Scott, who in 2001 was the BNP's North East regional organiser, has two convictions for assault and using threatening words and behaviour.[253]
    * Joe Owens, now expelled but previously a BNP candidate in Merseyside and former bodyguard to Nick Griffin,[254][255] has served eight months in prison for sending razor blades in the post to Jewish people and another term for carrying CS gas and knuckledusters.[256]
    * Tony Wentworth, former BNP student organiser, was convicted alongside Owens for assaulting demonstrators at an anti-BNP event in 2003.[257]
    * Colin Smith, who in 2004 was the BNP's South East London organiser, has 17 convictions for burglary, theft, stealing cars, possession of drugs and assaulting a police officer.[258]
    * Richard Edmonds (at the time BNP National Organiser, currently a member of the BNP's Advisory Council).[citation needed] was sentenced to 3 months in prison in 1994 for violent disorder for his part in a racist attack on a black man in Bethnal Green, London (although he was released after sentencing as he had already served this period on remand). Edmonds hurled a glass at the man as he was walking past the Ship pub in Bethnal Green Road, East London, where a group of BNP supporters were drinking. Others then 'glassed' the man in the face and punched and kicked him as he lay on the ground, including BNP supporter Stephen O'Shea of Purfleet, Essex, who was jailed for 12 months. Another BNP supporter, Simon Biggs from Penge (who smashed a beer glass into the man's face causing deep wounds), was jailed for four and a half years for his part in the attack.[259] He is now Newcastle-upon-Tyne organiser for the National Front.

Last edited by Bertster7 (2010-05-06 13:09:50)

Bertster7 wrote:

CammRobb wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

It's true.

So are the bulk of their supporters.

So the 3 Asians were well within their rights to hassle the BNP members, and spit on one?

No. But that has nothing to do with what I said.

The BNP's association with crime and violence is a matter of public record.

Scholars claim that the BNP has conducted right-wing extremist violence intended as a methodology to "seek institutionalized power".[248]  Critics of the BNP, such as Human Rights Watch in a 1997 report, have asserted that the party recruits from skinhead groups and that many believe it promotes racist violence.[249]

In the past, Nick Griffin has defended the threat of violence in furthering the party's aims. After the BNP won its first council seat in 1993, he wrote: "The electors of Millwall did not back a postmodernist rightist party, but what they perceived to be a strong, disciplined organisation with the ability to back up its slogan 'Defend Rights for Whites' with well-directed boots and fists. When the crunch comes, power is the product of force and will, not of rational debate." In 1997, believing he was addressing members of the French Front National, he said: "It is more important to control the streets of a city than its council chambers."[58] In January 1986, when Griffin was Deputy Chair of the NF, he advised his audience at an anti-IRA rally to use the "traditional British methods of the brick, the boot and the fist."[250]

The BNP defends itself by arguing that over 20% of the working population has some criminal record or another and that a large proportion of MPs, councillors and activists in the other three main parties also have unsatisfactory past records.

A BBC Panorama programme reported on a number of BNP members who have had criminal convictions, some racially motivated. The BBC's list is extensive. Some of the more notable convictions include:

    * John Tyndall had a number of convictions including assault, organising and participating in paramilitary neo-Nazi activities. In 1986 he was convicted and jailed for conspiracy to publish material likely to incite racial hatred.[251]
    * In 1998, Nick Griffin was convicted of violating section 19 of the Public Order Act 1986, relating to incitement to racial hatred. He received a nine-month prison sentence, suspended for two years, and was fined £2,300.[252]
    * Kevin Scott, who in 2001 was the BNP's North East regional organiser, has two convictions for assault and using threatening words and behaviour.[253]
    * Joe Owens, now expelled but previously a BNP candidate in Merseyside and former bodyguard to Nick Griffin,[254][255] has served eight months in prison for sending razor blades in the post to Jewish people and another term for carrying CS gas and knuckledusters.[256]
    * Tony Wentworth, former BNP student organiser, was convicted alongside Owens for assaulting demonstrators at an anti-BNP event in 2003.[257]
    * Colin Smith, who in 2004 was the BNP's South East London organiser, has 17 convictions for burglary, theft, stealing cars, possession of drugs and assaulting a police officer.[258]
    * Richard Edmonds (at the time BNP National Organiser, currently a member of the BNP's Advisory Council).[citation needed] was sentenced to 3 months in prison in 1994 for violent disorder for his part in a racist attack on a black man in Bethnal Green, London (although he was released after sentencing as he had already served this period on remand). Edmonds hurled a glass at the man as he was walking past the Ship pub in Bethnal Green Road, East London, where a group of BNP supporters were drinking. Others then 'glassed' the man in the face and punched and kicked him as he lay on the ground, including BNP supporter Stephen O'Shea of Purfleet, Essex, who was jailed for 12 months. Another BNP supporter, Simon Biggs from Penge (who smashed a beer glass into the man's face causing deep wounds), was jailed for four and a half years for his part in the attack.[259] He is now Newcastle-upon-Tyne organiser for the National Front.

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BNP crime, violence and racism.

As I said, this sort of thing is not out of character for them.

Uzique wrote:

come on camm you're not stupid