o shi...for real?Uzique wrote:
dude you do know that tapping two fingers on the mouse-pad at once = right-click, yes?phishsux wrote:
as far as internet and chatting go osx > windows
only gripe is not being able to right click
and holding two fingers on the mousepad and dragging = scrolling
If you're going to spend the money on a Mac, get a laptop. They're at least worth the money in comparison to the iMacs.
CapnNismo wrote:
If you're going to spend the money on a Mac, get a laptop. They're at least worth the money in comparison to the iMacs.
Mac Pros aren't bad value either really, when you look at what you get....CapnNismo wrote:
If you're going to spend the money on a Mac, get a laptop. They're at least worth the money in comparison to the iMacs.
(obviously don't buy your extra RAM, hard drives etc from Apple when configing them though)
phishsux wrote:
o shi...for real?Uzique wrote:
dude you do know that tapping two fingers on the mouse-pad at once = right-click, yes?phishsux wrote:
as far as internet and chatting go osx > windows
only gripe is not being able to right click
and holding two fingers on the mousepad and dragging = scrolling
http://www.danrodney.com/mac/multitouch.html
I'm not debating there..steelie34 wrote:
it has nothing to do with learning any of that stuff... i know both OS's quite well, and as said before, it's just personal preference. why do mac users so often have to argue about why they think their OS is superior? it's just MY opinion! if you like the color red, and i like blue, why would you feel the need to argue with me about why your color is better? both OS's have their strengths and weaknesses, and when it comes to my day to day activities, i prefer windows, just as you prefer osx. there is really nothing to debate.mcminty wrote:
I just got owned.. I guess the average user doesn't need to do aaaaany of what you do
With regards to turning on and off hidden files - once you know the terminal command, are you able to use AppleScript Editor to create an application (lets call it ShowHiddenFiles.app) that will run the command in Terminal? So in effect, you double click "ShowHiddenFiles.app" and ta-da.. you can see them. Or hell.. can you set a keyboard shortcut to run the script?
Where does one start when it comes to learning some of this stuff?
I was asking. Where should one start if they want to learn some basic AppleScript/Terminal things, aside from reading the "top 50 terminal codes" on random websites.
oic... try this: http://discussions.apple.com/category.j … goryID=263
it's where i go when i need help.
it's where i go when i need help.
@steelie.
I use mac for uni, simply cause it's simple and easy to use, and well, my parents bought me a mac, yay. For a laptop, i lovek the aluminium case as a sense of aesthetics. the os in itself is simple and easy to use for what i need it for.
I have a PC at home for gaming and usual surfing, IM etc etc
as an OS, i dont really prefer any. I prefer the fact i have bigger/2 screens on my PC, so i use that more, and it runs windows cause i game on it.
I dont see why people argue which OS is better, in my honest opinion, they're simply under educated in simple computing. to say something "just works" is insane. Obviously the marketing gurus at apple have developed this slogan, and the sad thing is it actually increases sales.
The reason my parents bought me a mac, was because it would assist my "creative" side.
yeah, cause i couldnt do that on a PC.
i wanted a mac but, so i kept my mouth shut XD XD
I use mac for uni, simply cause it's simple and easy to use, and well, my parents bought me a mac, yay. For a laptop, i lovek the aluminium case as a sense of aesthetics. the os in itself is simple and easy to use for what i need it for.
I have a PC at home for gaming and usual surfing, IM etc etc
as an OS, i dont really prefer any. I prefer the fact i have bigger/2 screens on my PC, so i use that more, and it runs windows cause i game on it.
I dont see why people argue which OS is better, in my honest opinion, they're simply under educated in simple computing. to say something "just works" is insane. Obviously the marketing gurus at apple have developed this slogan, and the sad thing is it actually increases sales.
The reason my parents bought me a mac, was because it would assist my "creative" side.
yeah, cause i couldnt do that on a PC.
i wanted a mac but, so i kept my mouth shut XD XD
everything i write is a ramble and should not be taken seriously.... seriously. ♥
i'd say it's about 50/50 at the uni i work for. macs are equally loved as much as the pc's. we actually accommodate both setups pretty well, it just takes a bit more to get the mac to talk to our file and print servers. that's always been the case, afaik, but certainly not something that can't be fixed.
my only beef is with the function of the OS. i guess i just got set to doing things a certain way, so when i had my old mac, i just couldn't get used to it. it was one of those mac airs, and it was hotter then hell, and the lack of usb ports was kind of annoying. i certainly don't knock the mac users who walk into the help desk, which lately i've noticed has been more and more... i don't know if that's a function of more mac owners, or the collective computer IQ's of students going up, meaning they have a tendency to play more (screw things up) if you know what i mean.
my only beef is with the function of the OS. i guess i just got set to doing things a certain way, so when i had my old mac, i just couldn't get used to it. it was one of those mac airs, and it was hotter then hell, and the lack of usb ports was kind of annoying. i certainly don't knock the mac users who walk into the help desk, which lately i've noticed has been more and more... i don't know if that's a function of more mac owners, or the collective computer IQ's of students going up, meaning they have a tendency to play more (screw things up) if you know what i mean.
haha, yeah, i know what you mean
printing here is pretty simple
add printer, finds it
when you want to print it comes up with a proxy info.
printing here is pretty simple
add printer, finds it
when you want to print it comes up with a proxy info.
everything i write is a ramble and should not be taken seriously.... seriously. ♥
sounds like you have a nice open print server *drools*
we are stuck using kerberos with an active directory for our print servers. that shit took me weeks to figure out how to get the macs to authenticate properly. seriously wanted to hurt someone during that time. now its all smooth as butter, but apple still sends out macs with too low of an ntlm level. basically that just means any network sniffer can snag your password hash. it still takes a decent amount of effort to crack, but with ntlmv2 your password isn't sent over the wire.
we are stuck using kerberos with an active directory for our print servers. that shit took me weeks to figure out how to get the macs to authenticate properly. seriously wanted to hurt someone during that time. now its all smooth as butter, but apple still sends out macs with too low of an ntlm level. basically that just means any network sniffer can snag your password hash. it still takes a decent amount of effort to crack, but with ntlmv2 your password isn't sent over the wire.
lmao, well played Tazz
Steelie - interesting stuff about the uni.. although from the mac users I've seen at mine, I doubt most of them would actually play around with things. A lot of them seem.. umm.. (what's a nice way of putting this?).. clueless? And that's just about basic OS X features - "Spaces? What's that? " - just to give an example.
edit: and for what it's worth.. if I had the space on my desk, and the need for a PC.. I'd make my own and chuck windows on it. xD
Steelie - interesting stuff about the uni.. although from the mac users I've seen at mine, I doubt most of them would actually play around with things. A lot of them seem.. umm.. (what's a nice way of putting this?).. clueless? And that's just about basic OS X features - "Spaces? What's that? " - just to give an example.
edit: and for what it's worth.. if I had the space on my desk, and the need for a PC.. I'd make my own and chuck windows on it. xD
Lol security defaults on mac is SHIT.steelie34 wrote:
sounds like you have a nice open print server *drools*
we are stuck using kerberos with an active directory for our print servers. that shit took me weeks to figure out how to get the macs to authenticate properly. seriously wanted to hurt someone during that time. now its all smooth as butter, but apple still sends out macs with too low of an ntlm level. basically that just means any network sniffer can snag your password hash. it still takes a decent amount of effort to crack, but with ntlmv2 your password isn't sent over the wire.
They have a firewall, but it's shipped with it OFF.
Not to mention all the other stuff you're talking about.
2 hour job practically to lock it all down and set it up right while maintaining user functionality.
so what should i do to make this bitch more secure
toss it in the chattahoochee
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But Macs don't have viruses.phishsux wrote:
so what should i do to make this bitch more secure
im in ur computer, eating your bits:Finray wrote:
But Macs don't have viruses.phishsux wrote:
so what should i do to make this bitch more secure
http://antivirus.about.com/od/macintosh … ources.htm
but really you only have to worry if you connect it to a windows network. just make sure your firewall is on and you should have no problems
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macs are pretty securephishsux wrote:
so what should i do to make this bitch more secure
just be wise with it.
there's some google-able links you can find about enabling special firewall measures etc. but by and large, they're alright.
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Same could be said about Windoze.Uzique wrote:
macs are pretty securephishsux wrote:
so what should i do to make this bitch more secure
just be wise with it.
there's some google-able links you can find about enabling special firewall measures etc. but by and large, they're alright.
well no... pointless argument to start
im not saying OSX is inherently 'safer' than windows... im just saying, by the sole merit that windows is the vastly-more popular platform, there are loads more nasties lurking out there on the interwebs. when a hole, flaw or exploit is discovered in windows, the hacking/spyware/malware community are on it like a flash- because there's such a huge pool of potential victims/suckers. osx is more niche and simply has less 'interest'. that's what i mean by saying that by browsing around with a modicum of common sense (which all computer users should have, regardless of platform)- you'll be 'safer' than you will on windows.
it's not a point of user-knowledge: it's a statistical thing, in a way. there are far more nasties for windows, so you're more likely to stumble across one.
im not saying OSX is inherently 'safer' than windows... im just saying, by the sole merit that windows is the vastly-more popular platform, there are loads more nasties lurking out there on the interwebs. when a hole, flaw or exploit is discovered in windows, the hacking/spyware/malware community are on it like a flash- because there's such a huge pool of potential victims/suckers. osx is more niche and simply has less 'interest'. that's what i mean by saying that by browsing around with a modicum of common sense (which all computer users should have, regardless of platform)- you'll be 'safer' than you will on windows.
it's not a point of user-knowledge: it's a statistical thing, in a way. there are far more nasties for windows, so you're more likely to stumble across one.
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^ agreed. until they have a bigger market share, viruses will be few and far between for the mac OS. the only times i've come across security issues with mac users is when they get ARP cache poisoned. in those cases, it's really the network to blame not the mac, BUT older versions of OSX would send an encrypted password hash to network resources, which is easily intercepted and possibly cracked. the latest build (leopard) does not do this by default, as well as windows 7. ARP cache poisoning isn't really a security threat for the OS, it's a network exploit that takes advantage of the protocol.
in a nutshell, turn on your firewall, and always do whatever OS updates are available. and of course, remember that guy in nigeria isn't really related to you
in a nutshell, turn on your firewall, and always do whatever OS updates are available. and of course, remember that guy in nigeria isn't really related to you
Been running my computer like this (or equivalent on Vista) for, dunno, about 3 years now. Never had one infection.
or you do and don't realize it!
Must be a pretty shit infection if I don't even realise it's there.steelie34 wrote:
or you do and don't realize it!
you're a brave soul. maybe it's so good, you don't even know it's there. you should scan with that malwarebytes program just in case. you might be surprised.Finray wrote:
Must be a pretty shit infection if I don't even realise it's there.steelie34 wrote:
or you do and don't realize it!