davemanrex
Member
+0|7108
I'm very dissapointed in this patch.  I didn't think it would be this bad.   I mean come on, they used the same action as sprinting as when you jump.   It looks upserd!!  No one jiggles like that when they jump.  This is one of the signs of lazyiness I found.  They could've at least made a new action, for exapmple he pulls the gun to his hip instead of swinging it back and forth like a fool.   Other crappy things.  The UAV overflight is cheezy looking.  Its a cool idea but the its an uneccesary clutterance of the battlefield.  SOmetimes you'll catch both planes flying side by side and it just has a lame feel to it.  The planes could carry on a conversation they're so close.
USMC- "So how are you MEC plane" 
MEC-" Ya know just taking reconnasance again"
USMC- "Crazy me too!!" 
MEC- " Well my times about up so I'm just going to explode and come back in like 2 seconds and we can     
          cary on this consersation some more"
USMC- "Alright catch you later"
   Some other problems are the slower going to prone thing.  Its not smooth, it feels they just slowed down the animation of the character model and it feels jumpy.   Next are the guns.  I saved some unlocks and unlocked both the p90 and the lL96.  They look sooooo crapy!  They look like someone craped in a gun mold and let it dry and said "there you got it, the P90".  More like the Poop90.  Oh and the bouncing of the grenades from the grenade launcher well..... they bounce but the velocity at which they are shot is so much greater than which they are reflected off of the wall.  I'm standing 10 feet from a wall and the grenade barily bounces back.  Its like they had a set distance at which it bounces or something stupid like that.  Next, you know how much "dolphin divers"  were hated.  Well guess what you can still "dolphin dive" just double tap your prone button and volla!  you have yourself a jumpier version of the "dophin dive" but still possible.  The whole mines thing not being exploded by other explosive and the ability to turn off friendly fire on mines makes a strategy that would be impossible to beat.  First in karkand cover the main entrances with mines and keep snipers there to guide them from being picked up from engineer and there you go, no tanks can pass.  And you can in a way lead a jeep or a tank over a mine of yours as you safely drive over it and the enemy tank blows to pieces.  Other problems Hmmm...... well I've only played a few maps with the patch but so far its a big dissapointment!  EA/Dice is a monster and all they want is your money in which they already have so as long as they seem they care by graciously giving us unlocks when we notice something they don't want us to notice that gives the game a bad appearance.  Get it through your head, EA/Dice is like ever other company, they don't care.  Say it with me they don't care about you.  They have you locked in this hope that battlefield 2 is an awesome game and it is, but this hope keeps you hoping that they will fixed the problems it has.  EA/Dice rushed this patch just to keep you thinking that they're nice guys so you will still buy their products later down the road.  HEAR THIS EA/Dice I DON"T WANT ANYMORE FREAKIN UNLOCKS, I HAVE LOST TOTAL RESPECT IN YOU AND I WILL TRY MY BEST TO NOT SUPPORT YOU ANYMORE.  There you go I said it.  This patch destroyed a good game, gameplay should never be messed with unless you are willing to take it back to the drawing board instead of putting a bandaid on a wound that we've come to accept.  Yep so that all my complaining and I guess it might be I'm not having the best day but I said it and I meant it.  EA/Dice you suck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  (Disclamer: I'm not sure if its EA that allowed such a crapy patch and I have nothing personal against them, same with Dice but they did make it right?)
Blitz.vets
Member
+0|7092

davemanrex wrote:

I'm very dissapointed in this patch.  I didn't think it would be this bad.   I mean come on, they used the same action as sprinting as when you jump.   It looks upserd!!  No one jiggles like that when they jump.  This is one of the signs of lazyiness I found.  They could've at least made a new action, for exapmple he pulls the gun to his hip instead of swinging it back and forth like a fool.   Other crappy things.  The UAV overflight is cheezy looking.  Its a cool idea but the its an uneccesary clutterance of the battlefield.  SOmetimes you'll catch both planes flying side by side and it just has a lame feel to it.  The planes could carry on a conversation they're so close.
USMC- "So how are you MEC plane" 
MEC-" Ya know just taking reconnasance again"
USMC- "Crazy me too!!" 
MEC- " Well my times about up so I'm just going to explode and come back in like 2 seconds and we can     
          cary on this consersation some more"
USMC- "Alright catch you later"
   Some other problems are the slower going to prone thing.  Its not smooth, it feels they just slowed down the animation of the character model and it feels jumpy.   Next are the guns.  I saved some unlocks and unlocked both the p90 and the lL96.  They look sooooo crapy!  They look like someone craped in a gun mold and let it dry and said "there you got it, the P90".  More like the Poop90.  Oh and the bouncing of the grenades from the grenade launcher well..... they bounce but the velocity at which they are shot is so much greater than which they are reflected off of the wall.  I'm standing 10 feet from a wall and the grenade barily bounces back.  Its like they had a set distance at which it bounces or something stupid like that.  Next, you know how much "dolphin divers"  were hated.  Well guess what you can still "dolphin dive" just double tap your prone button and volla!  you have yourself a jumpier version of the "dophin dive" but still possible.  The whole mines thing not being exploded by other explosive and the ability to turn off friendly fire on mines makes a strategy that would be impossible to beat.  First in karkand cover the main entrances with mines and keep snipers there to guide them from being picked up from engineer and there you go, no tanks can pass.  And you can in a way lead a jeep or a tank over a mine of yours as you safely drive over it and the enemy tank blows to pieces.  Other problems Hmmm...... well I've only played a few maps with the patch but so far its a big dissapointment!  EA/Dice is a monster and all they want is your money in which they already have so as long as they seem they care by graciously giving us unlocks when we notice something they don't want us to notice that gives the game a bad appearance.  Get it through your head, EA/Dice is like ever other company, they don't care.  Say it with me they don't care about you.  They have you locked in this hope that battlefield 2 is an awesome game and it is, but this hope keeps you hoping that they will fixed the problems it has.  EA/Dice rushed this patch just to keep you thinking that they're nice guys so you will still buy their products later down the road.  HEAR THIS EA/Dice I DON"T WANT ANYMORE FREAKIN UNLOCKS, I HAVE LOST TOTAL RESPECT IN YOU AND I WILL TRY MY BEST TO NOT SUPPORT YOU ANYMORE.  There you go I said it.  This patch destroyed a good game, gameplay should never be messed with unless you are willing to take it back to the drawing board instead of putting a bandaid on a wound that we've come to accept.  Yep so that all my complaining and I guess it might be I'm not having the best day but I said it and I meant it.  EA/Dice you suck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  (Disclamer: I'm not sure if its EA that allowed such a crapy patch and I have nothing personal against them, same with Dice but they did make it right?)
I think theres a deeper meaning to this "rant", were u beaten black and blue at school?
*TS*tphai
The Forum Alien
+89|7251|The planet Tophet
ok there is too much traffic and too many poeple downloading it i guess ill have to wait a week or wait 17 hours for it to download ill just wait the week
pdanrichey
Member
+5|7252
Freaking gay...the Grenade Launcher rounds bouch off walls and miss people that I shoot at!!  I also don't like that fact that I can't "dolphin dive" or shoot while jumping.  To be honest however, it really does make it more "real" and fair to play against each other.  The fake crap like jumping in the air and being able to shoot someone in the head is gone now...that is a good thing.  Maybe the noob tube naggas will partially go away now.  I guess I'll have to buy that damn new patch to get th new guns...this sucks!
Metallica-66
Member
+0|7094|USA
Excellent patch! Spot on!
irok100
Member
+114|7095
OKAY... here it goes
Blackhawks: suck, the chain gun has been rendered useless thus making the blackhawk about as useful as a commercial jet. except for the fact that C4 can still be thrown out of them and that may be the only way to achieve expert explosives now
M95: accuracy slightly improved, making it a little bit easier to kill while moving standing or crouched.
L96A1 ( new sniper rifle ): love it, first round i played i was second place with 20 kills all with that gun... and only 2 deaths. its dealy accurat, leaves an opponent with 3 bars if not head shot... that chest shot thing was bogus.
P90: well i haven't used it a ton, but i don't really like it. Its accuracy is a little worse than the SCAR L... with a similar scope.... its power isn't great but it isn't bad. Its worth the unlock...
Anti-Air: much easier to take down jets, but now it REALLY enjoys hitting friendlies so be careful and make sure that u don't have any potential friendly targets when firing...
Jets: in general seem to be about the same. And im not sure if i just all of a sudden got good at bombing, or if their power increased, or if i was just lucky... but the bombs seemed a bit better. If ur flying... the new AA is a bitch, not only do you have to worry about enemy AA but also TEAM AA so yeah, just hope that ur teamates aren't n00bs.
Attack helis... : haven't tried it since the patch, but i like em even less now
Armor seems to be a little to powerful now and im glad i started playing Mashtur City instead of Karkand becaus kark is now Tank whore heaven.
From what i can tell the accuracy of the support kit has gone up notably.

A couple things that should be cleared up:
No shooting why going prone/ up from prone
no Dolphin diving WOO HOO, i love being a sniper.
THE UAV: is a little plane that flies in circles  the apparently can be shot doen... even though i haven't seen that happen.
The red/blue tag glitch has not been fixed
the reloading glitch with snipers i think is fixed.


OVERALL... I LOVED THE PATCH... being a sniper, i can finally be towards the top of the list on most matches i play. it seems that i am dying less and killing more. I think the chest shot sniper rumor would be good for a little more balance... but i think this patch will allow me to gain the expert sniper badge
Ogopogo15
Mobile AA Whore
+1|7183|San Diego

jony wrote:

What sucks about this patch is now medics can kill heavy armor with their G36E in 3 round burst assuming all 3 bullets hit, not even the m16 can accomplish that
I agree...I was like WTF.

I also didnt expect the PKM to be so damn good and accurate.  There is absolutely no point to play assault IMO.  I tried it and the PKM is like Godlike accurate.

I just have 2 major gripes about the patch

PKM

&

Gernade Launcher splash damage is less
[iLL]h8+
Member
+26|7161|Florida
Anyone else notice  the rank change.  I just receive 2nd LT. with a little over 60K in points.

look into it.

later
Unclean009
Da Dirty Man!
+66|7097|Spokane, Washington

well im loving the patch, no more noob tubing
anyway overall i think its ok but personally for me, the red name bug is happening alot more ofter....or is it just me?


i give it 9/10 because i dont fly much anywho
sparklet
Banned
+34|7193|stop corecting my grammer!!!!!

AdamEcks wrote:

I'm posting this too much, hopefully not many more of these threads will appear.

Red name bug, unfixed:

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f74/a … redbug.jpg
hacker
u minimap hacker
InfiniteWebby
Member
+0|7164|Sydney, Australia

sparklet wrote:

AdamEcks wrote:

I'm posting this too much, hopefully not many more of these threads will appear.

Red name bug, unfixed:

[url]http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f74/adamecks/redbug.jpg[/url]
hacker
u minimap hacker
Actually if you look closer at his image you can see the "orange tinge" where the UAV has just been.

As for the patch I don't like it so much. It seems everyone is now playing the sniper role, whether it be with the l96a1, l85 or even the PKM. I just hate being picked off by a support player on top of a building as I run for a flag. At least before when only snipers played snipers I had time in between the bolt action to try and find cover. As for the AA I think it is now too powerful and that is coming from someone who is in no way a chooperwhore nor flies planes. The red bug, before today I had experienced it once or twice, now it seems to be happening every other round. I would have been happy if EA had just given me the unlocks and kept the game mechanics the same but they had to go and implement these drastic changes all at once.

Last edited by InfiniteWebby (2006-02-14 20:33:18)

[-DER-]Omega
membeR
+188|7272|Lithuania

sparklet wrote:

AdamEcks wrote:

I'm posting this too much, hopefully not many more of these threads will appear.

Red name bug, unfixed:

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f74/a … redbug.jpg
hacker
u minimap hacker
rofl.

uav.
minimap uav.
https://bf3s.com/sigs/fe717ed1eb823c939460a42f15bced7dd0057c51.png
Papa Smurf 314
Right in the Smurfin' parking lot?
+90|7215|New York
You know, i would be pissed if they released it on the regularly scheduled date and it sucked.. But they released it later, and it STILL totally sucks.. Now, im sick to my stomach. Really.

Totally ruined dogfights.. Actually, it totally ruined anything that can fly. People are already finding glitches.

Last edited by Papa Smurf 314 (2006-02-14 20:42:18)

{AW}ROOSTER
Member
+0|7092
Ive Got A Radeon 9600 And It Works Fine So The 9200 Is  The Problem .maybe Ati Will Fix It.i Wouldnt Go Buy New Video Card Just Yet.
stryyker
bad touch
+1,682|7165|California

AA needs to be hotfixed. i saw it do a COMPLETE GOD DAM 180 turn back and killing me with 1 missile, g.a.y
SammyIAm
Member
+0|7104
Only played a little so far.  PKM is sweet, MP-7 is still good.  I like the new ranks, gives the game a little more variety in that area.  Also, infantry seemed to be a little easier to kill, most likely due to less bunny hopping and dolphin diving.  And I'm glad all the dolphin diving and noob tubing got fixed.

Aircraft suck.  AA is almost fun, but a little too easy now, it's not quite as rewarding.  And what kind of person is physically unable to let go of mine while jumping!?

Sounds like EA (yet again) has made some "fixes" and thereby introduced a whole new mess of bugs for them to fix.  Anyone know when 1.21 is coming out?

Last edited by SammyIAm (2006-02-14 22:34:06)

Kommando
Member
+0|7198|Brisbane Australia
Dear crybabies,  i am deeply concerned that you can no longer dolphin dive and explot any more.
ill call the Waaambulance immediately.

-K
LoS-Infinity
Member
+4|7203
But i want to fly jets and rape everything... lucky for me i worked out a way around the aa, but it will most likely become common practice now.
Bf2specialforces
Member
+1|7092

sparklet wrote:

i got outsniped by a PKM

i was sniper and i got snipered by a PKM

PKM = accrate plus power
LOL how did that happen!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://bf2s.com/player/64095304/
stryyker
bad touch
+1,682|7165|California

groundpounding makes its fucking sweet comeback, hail rushing the hotel with the L96!
Bf2specialforces
Member
+1|7092

AdamEcks wrote:

I'm posting this too much, hopefully not many more of these threads will appear.

Red name bug, unfixed:

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f74/a … redbug.jpg
do u realize that u just fukcing showed the whole world that u fucking hack!?!?!?!?!?


http://bf2s.com/player/64095304/
Elamdri
The New Johnnie Cochran
+134|7092|Peoria
Observations:

GL: I like it. Haven't been noob tubed since, and yet I can still arc them babies...

AA: Wow... Talk about JAW DROPPING. The ability to HIT something with this just awes me.

Jets/Choppers: little disappointed that they aren't as strong now. I was just starting to blossom as a jet pilot. Damn early frost... OH well, hey its not like in real life if you got shot by a missle you'd still be able to fly back to base and repair...

P90: Haven't used it, Is it worth getting over the MG36?

New Sniper: I love the abundance of free kills..er... i mean snipers. We should make snipers even better so I can kill more of them. But no, seriously, I like the aim upgrade, i remember times when i first started that were frustrating with the old sniper.

I'm a little disappointed they renigged on the whole "Pick up explosives with 'G'" feature. Was looking forward to that...

OH, on the patch website, it says you can now shoot down UAV's. Is that something you need anti air for?
SammyIAm
Member
+0|7104
Posted before, but a couple things to add.  First of all, I just visited EA's forums...  I seriously feel sick to my stomach.  Major props to the people here posting like reasonable human beings, and the moderators for keeping it that way.

Shooting while jumping was a big problem, and I'm glad it's gone.  I'll miss being able to hop off buildings and pump a guy full of shot with my M1187 or my NOR982, but I can adapt.  What I DO find unreasonable is not being able to jump and throw mines.  I can toss them all of 3 feet now, which doesn't help if you're trying to stay out of the line of sight of an aproaching tank.  At least we could have had a distance upgrade on those like we did the grenades.

Even more annoying are claymores, the new ultimate killer.  Unless I missed something, the only way to remove a claymore is to get a sniper to press 'G' by it.  But even then, (I haven't tested it), it only works on FRIENDLY claymores.  Enemy claymores?  NOTHING WILL GET RID OF THEM.  It's a great way to seal off a roof for the rest of a round, but doesn't seem like a very fair gameplay addition.  The upside of this is that it will be MUCH easier to get my explosives badge, despite having my mines nerfed.

And thankgoodness they fixed that n00b t00b!


Edit: The UAVs CAN be shot down (I've already killed one), but you can't lock onto them with missiles (this makes some sense sine they're designed to be stealthy).  I recommend a 50cal (wich will cut through the weakened choppers like pie now, also).  Does anyone know if you're awarded points for destroying a UAV?

Last edited by SammyIAm (2006-02-15 00:28:43)

Janis_Petke
\m/(><)\m/
+49|7138|Brunei Darussalam

Bf2specialforces wrote:

do u realize that u just fukcing showed the whole world that u fucking hack!?!?!?!?!?
Do you realize that you just made a total jackass from yourself? If you look at the pic,you can see that right side of the minimap is a little bit more orange than the rest of it. Can you say UAV? Also,look at the upper left corned where it says UAV transmitting etc. YES! IT MUST BE A HAX!!!!1!1ONE!!1!ELEVEN!

Last edited by Janis_Petke (2006-02-15 00:31:04)

[BSG]DirtyHarry
Member
+0|7124|France
Hmm.... just installed the patch this morning... after downloading the 375MB over night.... the game wouldn't start anymore... other patch same shit as in all the other patches coming from EA !!!!! Donno if they only have dump programmers hired...???? I assume it's the same thing... reinstall from CD.... and apply the last patch only.... a pitty for EA.... that they don't learn from errors... just keep on doing the same bullshit.

sorry folks but this had to be said!

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