BF2S Forums Cop Punches 17 year old girl after fight because of jay walking

no problem with this officer.
when an officer is trying to handcuff someone, you stay the fuck out of his way.
by all means film it to have proof if he starts beating her

however  this next video shows a bad cop.

the biker stops 7-8 seconds after the cop hits his lights.
slightly and slowly rotating your body to speak to / listen to the officer over the sirens
FFS!

Last edited by Stubbee (2010-06-17 08:48:12)

is it such a bad judgement ............. you got 2 bikers that get blue lighted at the moment for wreckless driving - then it turns into high speed pursuit - then we see that theres been enough time lapsed that the biker has come to complete stop and removed his helmet - now the officer exits his vecihle and sees that the biker with his hands in his lap turn to his right ( where it is very diffcult to see if there is anything in his hand )

all this happens in just seconds .... theres no stopping to analyze the situation


but guess he should have followed the same ROE as we do in the military - Only Fire when Fired Upon


also it could have been completely avoided if he had only put his hands up from the very beging

FloppY_ wrote:

SEREMAKER wrote:

is it such a bad judgement ............. you got 2 bikers that get blue lighted at the moment for wreckless driving - then it turns into high speed pursuit - then we see that theres been enough time lapsed that the biker has come to complete stop and removed his helmet - now the officer exits his vecihle and sees that the biker with his hands in his lap turn to his right ( where it is very diffcult to see if there is anything in his hand )

all this happens in just seconds .... theres no stopping to analyze the situation


but guess he should have followed the same ROE as we do in the military - Only Fire when Fired Upon


also it could have been completely avoided if he had only put his hands up from the very beging

He never had a helmet on

He just stops, looks over his shoulder and gets shot

Bad cop is bad...

helmet or no helmet isn't a factor in this case , I only used it as a time reference but seeing as Ottawa Hills has no helmet laws

he turns from the hip up ... not just his head over the shoulder

Bad decison maybe for using his firearm instead of using a taser gun

SEREMAKER wrote:

FloppY_ wrote:

SEREMAKER wrote:

is it such a bad judgement ............. you got 2 bikers that get blue lighted at the moment for wreckless driving - then it turns into high speed pursuit - then we see that theres been enough time lapsed that the biker has come to complete stop and removed his helmet - now the officer exits his vecihle and sees that the biker with his hands in his lap turn to his right ( where it is very diffcult to see if there is anything in his hand )

all this happens in just seconds .... theres no stopping to analyze the situation


but guess he should have followed the same ROE as we do in the military - Only Fire when Fired Upon


also it could have been completely avoided if he had only put his hands up from the very beging

He never had a helmet on

He just stops, looks over his shoulder and gets shot

Bad cop is bad...

helmet or no helmet isn't a factor in this case , I only used it as a time reference but seeing as Ottawa Hills has no helmet laws

he turns from the hip up ... not just his head over the shoulder

Bad decison maybe for using his firearm instead of using a taser gun

If you are sitting on a bike like he does, you bend your back slightly, then you have to lean your upper body to look behind you,, onless you pull a stigmata 360

Last edited by FloppY_ (2010-06-17 10:10:55)

SEREMAKER wrote:

FloppY_ wrote:

SEREMAKER wrote:

helmet or no helmet isn't a factor in this case , I only used it as a time reference but seeing as Ottawa Hills has no helmet laws

he turns from the hip up ... not just his head over the shoulder

Bad decison maybe for using his firearm instead of using a taser gun

If you are sitting on a bike like he does, you bend your back slightly, then you have to lean your upper body to look behind you,, onless you pull a stigmata 360

yes I know how to sit on a harley .... i also know when to immediatly put my hands up

Only in america

King_County_Downy wrote:

Rule #1: Don't fuck with King County cops.
Rule #2: Give cops space when they are making an arrest.
Rule #3: Never try to fight back when being arrested.

I think the cop did the right thing. Absolutely. Equal punches for equal rights. They wanted it, they got it. Man up women and take note.

I intern in the District Attorney's office in the unit that prosecutes police officers and when I asked my boss about this case, this is pretty much the response she gave me.  When a cop tells you to stop, you stop.  If you touch or hit a cop while they're arresting someone, they're probably going to ruin your day if for no other reason than they feel you've created an unsafe situation for them.

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

Looked like the policeman didn't need any help.

The girl shouldn't have pushed the policeman.  The policeman shouldn't have punched her.  Both should be reprimanded accordingly.

/end thread

This.

jord wrote:

I can see both sides and am not going to stick to the Police side because I'm a neo con "Police are always right the law is gospel" or a Hitting women is never right, Police are scum" liberal.

Really? You can see both sides, well then explain the side to me that you see it okay to disobey a lawful order, and assault a police officer.

Stubbee wrote:

DBBrinson1 wrote:

Stubbee wrote:

no problem with this officer.
when an officer is trying to handcuff someone, you stay the fuck out of his way.
by all means film it to have proof if he starts beating her

however  this next video shows a bad cop.

the biker stops 7-8 seconds after the cop hits his lights.
slightly and slowly rotating your body to speak to / listen to the officer over the sirens
FFS!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfV1svt9cJY

What was the outcome of the cop trial?

Guilty of felonious assault.
Sentencing June 21. Up to 11 years.

http://www.toledoblade.com/article/2010 … 0/ARCHIVES

1 punch = up to 11 years?

ouch

ghettoperson wrote:

FloppY_ wrote:

Stubbee wrote:

Guilty of felonious assault.
Sentencing June 21. Up to 11 years.

http://www.toledoblade.com/article/2010 … 0/ARCHIVES

1 punch = up to 11 years?

ouch

Nah, he's talking about the shooting.

oh I see... well diserved as far as the video tells...

SEREMAKER wrote:

FloppY_ wrote:

SEREMAKER wrote:

helmet or no helmet isn't a factor in this case , I only used it as a time reference but seeing as Ottawa Hills has no helmet laws

he turns from the hip up ... not just his head over the shoulder

Bad decison maybe for using his firearm instead of using a taser gun

If you are sitting on a bike like he does, you bend your back slightly, then you have to lean your upper body to look behind you,, onless you pull a stigmata 360

yes I know how to sit on a harley .... i also know when to immediatly put my hands up

As you said it all happened pretty fast. It would have been noisy and possibly confusing so turning around to see what was going on was a pretty natural reaction. It would have been better if he had just put his hands up straight away, but its possible he didn't even hear/comprehend the command before he moved.

lowing wrote:

AussieReaper wrote:

Jay walking.

Serious business.

No, assaulting a police officer is serious business.

You call that Assault?   coppers a bluddy puff.

How much better would it have been if the cop had pistol whipped her to the ground, then put two rounds through the back of her head? That's the kind of shit I want to see cops doing. Make sure people fear the law.