BF2S Forums Quick question: Own work as advertising?

DefCon-17 wrote:

So I have some chap on DeviantArt asking me if he can use some of my pictures for posters and advertising at a paintball field he's opening.

I've never had this request before, so how should I handle it?
Should I charge, or just decline?
..or let him use my pics?

So confused. D:

Charge and make sure you still own the copyrights

Bevo wrote:

Charge and not cheap either.

If he says no, no loss. If he uses them anyway, sue his ass.

You'll want to ignore this guy--charge a rate that *you* find reasonable.  If they guy uses them anyway, then you probably won't know and even if you did, would you be able to afford a lawyer to obtain damages that are worth the time and hassle?

SEREMAKER wrote:

watermark all public showing of your work .... then if they want to use something .... charge them a resonable rate for using a copy of your work

unless they would like to buy the master copy .... from which you can never use that image again

Yes...watermarking is something you should definitely be doing if you aren't already!

I'm Jamesey wrote:

If he wanted to use professional images he'd have hired a professional, he's trawling deviantart so he probably doesn't have enough to spend for professional images

charge him a little and be happy he asked and didn't just steal them.

steelie34 wrote:

I'm Jamesey wrote:

If he wanted to use professional images he'd have hired a professional, he's trawling deviantart so he probably doesn't have enough to spend for professional images

charge him a little and be happy he asked and didn't just steal them.

DefCon-17 wrote:

They do have watermarks, but they're not really intrusive/huge.
(Examples: http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=138144)

What about the people in the pictures? Don't I have to get them to sign a release form if I make money from a picture of them?

You can't really make out who they are (masks etc) I believe that is your savior..

Last edited by FloppY_ (2010-06-18 12:29:21)

Yeah, watermark the pictures. Actually, apply giant watermarks if possible. Then, charge a little. If you charge too much he'll get offended or steal them, if you charge a little, he'll be fine with it. Did he ask you how much money you wanted? If so, charge him a little, he probably can't afford more.

SenorToenails wrote:

Bevo wrote:

Charge and not cheap either.

If he says no, no loss. If he uses them anyway, sue his ass.

You'll want to ignore this guy--charge a rate that *you* find reasonable.  If they guy uses them anyway, then you probably won't know and even if you did, would you be able to afford a lawyer to obtain damages that are worth the time and hassle?

Yeah, what the fuck do I know, my mother only deals with this sort of bullshit on a daily basis. The going rates for photography used in ads, magazines, etc are retardedly low. People who give out their work for free or extremely cheap damage this business to no end. Use your head.

Bevo wrote:

SenorToenails wrote:

Bevo wrote:

Charge and not cheap either.

If he says no, no loss. If he uses them anyway, sue his ass.

You'll want to ignore this guy--charge a rate that *you* find reasonable.  If they guy uses them anyway, then you probably won't know and even if you did, would you be able to afford a lawyer to obtain damages that are worth the time and hassle?

Yeah, what the fuck do I know, my mother only deals with this sort of bullshit on a daily basis. The going rates for photography used in ads, magazines, etc are retardedly low. People who give out their work for free or extremely cheap damage this business to no end. Use your head.

Yeah because everyone who snaps random cool pictures should refuse to share them without receiving a big paycheque to help your mother out because she chose to take on a profession with a skill that anybody can produce.

need an ad that involves a tree? pay £100 for bevo's mother's picture of a tree or pay £5 for an equally good picture of a tree on deviantart

maybe your mother should use her head

DefCon-17 wrote:

What about the people in the pictures? Don't I have to get them to sign a release form if I make money from a picture of them?

Check the local laws, but a model release is typically required for the commercial use of your images - which would be exactly this.

Bevo wrote:

I'm Jamesey wrote:

Bevo wrote:

Yeah, what the fuck do I know, my mother only deals with this sort of bullshit on a daily basis. The going rates for photography used in ads, magazines, etc are retardedly low. People who give out their work for free or extremely cheap damage this business to no end. Use your head.

Yeah because everyone who snaps random cool pictures should refuse to share them without receiving a big paycheque to help your mother out because she chose to take on a profession with a skill that anybody can produce.

need an ad that involves a tree? pay £100 for bevo's mother's picture of a tree or pay £5 for an equally good picture of a tree on deviantart

maybe your mother should use her head

Jamesey don't be a daft cunt

if his photography is worth 5 bucks he should charge five bucks, but i'm willing to bet it's not

because any monkey can buy a cool camera and press the button on top, right?

fuck off

I'm the daft cunt when your idea of people buying amateur pictures for advertising is damaging, but charging extortionate prices and suing for theft is promoting it.

the reason that rates for photos in ads are low, is because anybody can source a non professional image that promotes their product and legally obtain it for free/low cost

the fact that you'd rather see a guy who approached a photographer and asked them for permission get ripped off or sued than see them conduct business in a nice legal manner makes you the daft cunt

Bevo wrote:

because any monkey can buy a cool camera and press the button on top, right?

Oh, but they do.. rich people with expensive DSLRs and glass, but they don't know how to use it properly. Sure, anyone can take a picture and think it's good, but it takes a lot of skill to make really good photos..

However, a lot of non-photographer people don't realise this, so when they have a camera and take some snaps for people to use, they give them away by the CD load.. undercutting the value of a good photographer..


Thus,

Bevo wrote:

Jamesey don't be a daft cunt

pace51 wrote:

Yeah, watermark the pictures. Actually, apply giant watermarks if possible. Then, charge a little. If you charge too much he'll get offended or steal them, if you charge a little, he'll be fine with it. Did he ask you how much money you wanted? If so, charge him a little, he probably can't afford more.

i like how you take the time to collate everyone elses ideas into your own post. makes it much easier for the OP