BF2S Forums Quick question: Own work as advertising?

I'm Jamesey wrote:

Bevo wrote:

I'm Jamesey wrote:

I'm the daft cunt when your idea of people buying amateur pictures for advertising is damaging, but charging extortionate prices and suing for theft is promoting it.

the reason that rates for photos in ads are low, is because anybody can source a non professional image that promotes their product and legally obtain it for free/low cost

the fact that you'd rather see a guy who approached a photographer and asked them for permission get ripped off or sued than see them conduct business in a nice legal manner makes you the daft cunt

You think 100 bucks for a picture in advertising is both "extortionate" and "ripped off", so, uh, yeah.

giving a guy a fiver for his "cool pic" for advertising use is cool though

troll/10

if 100 quid was fair your mother wouldn't be getting shafted and you wouldn't be throwing a tantrum over somebody asking for advertising pictures on deviantart

its not a tantrum, its business sense

bevo wrote:

use your fucking head

DefCon-17 wrote:

I wonder if this argument would be here if I had my own website and someone contacted me through that.

But erm...I have no experience with this, so I'm not sure how much I should charge.
$20 per pic? $50?

some sort of scale http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/20046 … /Photodisc

Let him use your pics, then advertise yourself online with it.

DefCon-17 wrote:

I wonder if this argument would be here if I had my own website and someone contacted me through that.

But erm...I have no experience with this, so I'm not sure how much I should charge.
$20 per pic? $50?

How much did your equipment cost? How much experience do you have? How much time did you spend on it? Did you do any processing? If so, how much did the processing equipment cost and how much time did you spend on that?

I'm not looking for the answers but you should be able to gauge a fair price off of those factors.

@all: An advertiser looking on DA may just not know better - we can't assume he knows exactly where to look in the first place. Someone running a business is more than likely to have 100 bucks to spare for a good picture used on advertising.

burnzz wrote:

mcminty wrote:

Oh, but they do.. rich people with expensive DSLRs and glass, but they don't know how to use it properly.

oh, that describes me . . .

FatherTed wrote:

pace51 wrote:

Yeah, watermark the pictures. Actually, apply giant watermarks if possible. Then, charge a little. If you charge too much he'll get offended or steal them, if you charge a little, he'll be fine with it. Did he ask you how much money you wanted? If so, charge him a little, he probably can't afford more.

i like how you take the time to collate everyone elses ideas into your own post. makes it much easier for the OP

that describes him. perfectly.

Yeah.. ):

But seriously, charge very little or none at all. Or see if he'd like to do busines with you in the future, because if so, consider charging him some money for the pics.

money can't buy happiness, but it will get you a nice piece of glass . . .

FFS, just let him use them, so long as he clearly credits you.

Your intention wasn't to make money in the first place, I assume.

DefCon-17 wrote:

I wonder if this argument would be here if I had my own website and someone contacted me through that.

But erm...I have no experience with this, so I'm not sure how much I should charge.
$20 per pic? $50?

Again, if you're just getting into selling photos, it might be more valuable to have some clients under your belt than get paid much, if at all. That's how a lot of people start out as professional web editors: with a few freebies.

DefCon-17 wrote:

Well I never started photography to make money, although I have made a little from it in the past, and wouldn't mind getting more..

Say I sell them for...$10 each... Since it's for advertising, I'll redo the post-processing, since I cut down the image size of postprocessed images... Would I need to do anything else security-wise?

make sure the EXIF info is intact, and keyword it.

If you plan on trying to make money later on, remember to not sell too low, or others might expect dirt cheap from you too. From there, you will be fucked

Bevo wrote:

SenorToenails wrote:

Bevo wrote:

Charge and not cheap either.

If he says no, no loss. If he uses them anyway, sue his ass.

You'll want to ignore this guy--charge a rate that *you* find reasonable.  If they guy uses them anyway, then you probably won't know and even if you did, would you be able to afford a lawyer to obtain damages that are worth the time and hassle?

Yeah, what the fuck do I know, my mother only deals with this sort of bullshit on a daily basis. The going rates for photography used in ads, magazines, etc are retardedly low. People who give out their work for free or extremely cheap damage this business to no end. Use your head.

Good for her!  She obviously knows what her work is worth and charges accordingly.  Does she inflate her prices just for the hell of it?  I doubt it.  And he shouldn't either.  If his work is worth, say, $100 on the open market, he should charge $100, not $200 just because you said to be 'not cheap'.  If people can make money by undercutting the competition, then whatever--that's the market.  But he would do himself a great disservice to either undercharge or overcharge.

DefCon-17 wrote:

So I have some chap on DeviantArt asking me if he can use some of my pictures for posters and advertising at a paintball field he's opening.

I've never had this request before, so how should I handle it?
Should I charge, or just decline?
..or let him use my pics?

So confused. D:

He asked you?


well, he is above 98% of the scum of the internet.

I would ( I own three small businesses btw ) enthusiastically say yes, give up a piece for him to use on the condition that he links to you in his website and you get your name on a 8" X 12" wall mounted descriptor beside the art with a card holder, etc. if it is in a location .


Freebies are only free 50% of the time and are mostly a good investment if they guy has potential.

" It takes money to make money..."

i have a friend who shoots motorcyclists at 'Track Day' (when club racers and even regular people can ride the track) and uploads 3x5" pics to flickr.
he has a business card with his contact info, and if a rider asks him about a specific picture, he offers full rez and a link to an online publisher.