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2010-06-29 08:06:33

#1

SEREMAKER: BABYMAKIN EXPERT √; +2,187|6965|Mountains of NC

They tried it in Battlefield 2142 but wasn't to succesful but if they tried it again but aimed it at the top 5 on-line console games.

Would you care to see advertising in your on-line game ....... If it lowered the cost of the game ?

Imaigne playing BC2 and during the load screen an ad for army recruitment pops up

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2010-06-29 08:07:35

#2

1927: The oldest chav in the world; +2,423|7070|Cardiff, Capital of Wales

Aye it wouldnt bother me to be honest.

2010-06-29 08:07:57

#3

RTHKI: mmmf mmmf mmmf; +1,745|7133|Cinncinatti

i wouldnt really pay attention to it . .

2010-06-29 08:08:57

#4

11 Bravo: Banned; +965|5633|Cleveland, Ohio

i prefer them in sports games. like fifa 10 it makes it look more realistic tbh. as for other games, i wouldnt mind at all.

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2010-06-29 08:13:48

#5

SenorToenails: Veritas et Scientia; +444|6526|North Tonawanda, NY

It depends on how invasive and distracting it is. If done well, it probably wouldn't bother me too much.

2010-06-29 08:13:50

#6

Winston_Churchill: Bazinga!; +521|7135|Toronto | Canada

As long as it fits with the game, sure. Seeing Hello Kitty flashing pink and yellow banners in the middle of a battlefield would be slightly distracting.

2010-06-29 08:17:25

#7

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6867

except for sports games;

i'd rather pay an extra 5 bucks and have a game experience that is immersive and convincing, high-quality over sacrificing for cheapness

plus you know as soon as the advertising-dollar drives a wedge and penetrates the gaming market, it'll get flogged to the extreme

big money interests will mean you'll be seeing adverts for BP Oil and Nescafe coffee in your S.T.A.L.K.E.R high-suspense environments, etc.

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2010-06-29 08:21:17

#8

eleven bravo: Member; +1,399|5655|foggy bottom

i dont like the idea of paying for some company's ads

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2010-06-29 08:22:24

#9

SEREMAKER: BABYMAKIN EXPERT √; +2,187|6965|Mountains of NC

I think the problem with on-line advertising ( and I'm using Battlefield 2142 bc thats the only one I can think of ) was that they had it in the game - I would see it but never took the time to really study it

if they consider doing this approach for games like BC2 or MW2 or Halo 3 etc etc is to keep the advertising out of the game and have it at the load screen

2010-06-29 08:22:39

#10

Trotskygrad: бля; +354|6396|Vortex Ring State

I'm all for it, I mean product placement means less work for the modeling team...

2010-06-29 08:23:48

#11

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6867

why would you want to give the modelling team less work?

so they make a shitter quality game?

what sorta logic is that? i want the game development team to take on MAXIMUM work and to complete it with MAXIMUM effort.

selling out to the advertising companies to fill in their white-space creates a shitty game with no immersing qualities.

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2010-06-29 08:25:52

#12

Ryan: Member; +1,230|7239|Alberta, Canada

Nein! Nein!

2010-06-29 08:30:50

#13

SenorToenails: Veritas et Scientia; +444|6526|North Tonawanda, NY

Uzique wrote:
except for sports games;

i'd rather pay an extra 5 bucks and have a game experience that is immersive and convincing, high-quality over sacrificing for cheapness

plus you know as soon as the advertising-dollar drives a wedge and penetrates the gaming market, it'll get flogged to the extreme

big money interests will mean you'll be seeing adverts for BP Oil and Nescafe coffee in your S.T.A.L.K.E.R high-suspense environments, etc.

A big, bright BP ad that sticks out conspicuously in a FPS really have the potential to break suspension of disbelief and kill the environment that they make. Unless they did it correctly, like if the FPS environment had an oil rig and some of the crates had worn BP logos, like the UAC crates in Doom. Or if, like in Max Payne, you were running around a crackhouse and there were Pepsi cans on the floor. That kind of product placement and advertising could work, but it needs to be done right.

2010-06-29 08:44:13

#14

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6867

you know though as soon as big-money is involved in the equation, and profits are inflated, that that level of artistic discrimination and quality will soon be sacrificed and sold-out to the considerably less-effort, more-monies solution of "shove the highest-bidding advert into our advertising space".

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2010-06-29 08:46:13

#15

Trotskygrad: бля; +354|6396|Vortex Ring State

Uzique wrote:
why would you want to give the modelling team less work?

so they make a shitter quality game?

what sorta logic is that? i want the game development team to take on MAXIMUM work and to complete it with MAXIMUM effort.

selling out to the advertising companies to fill in their white-space creates a shitty game with no immersing qualities.

So they don't have to remodel shit that has been done before, such as Cars or cans, they can get those models directly from the company

Also, I'm pretty sure that product placement would work even if it was on billboards, like in AF/EF/BF2. A BP ad wouldn't look out of place on Daquin Oilfields (or not)

2010-06-29 08:46:58

#16

SenorToenails: Veritas et Scientia; +444|6526|North Tonawanda, NY

Uzique wrote:
you know though as soon as big-money is involved in the equation, and profits are inflated, that that level of artistic discrimination and quality will soon be sacrificed and sold-out to the considerably less-effort, more-monies solution of "shove the highest-bidding advert into our advertising space".

Yes, true. And then the games would go right back to $50+.

2010-06-29 08:47:32

#17

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6867

my point though is that it wouldn't have the level of effort to be matched idealistically to its ideal environment, in-game

game development standards just wont be that high. they'll still rush out games for deadlines, still aim for maximum profit and biggest audience, and still be pretty shit. only with adverts, they'd feature huge out-of-place immersion breakers, as well.

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2010-06-29 08:55:56

#18

ghettoperson: Member; +1,943|7046

I don't mind as long as it's done in a subtle way. ie say in Fallout 3, you're wandering around a destroyed city, but there's still a billboard up with a car ad or something, but it still looks wrecked and fits in with the environment

EDIT: I would however expect that in return there would have to be some sort of decrease in the pricing of games if they're getting advertising money.

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2010-06-29 09:32:24

#19

Ultrafunkula: Hector: Ding, ding, ding, ding...; +1,975|6870|6 6 4 oh, I forget

ghettoperson wrote:
I don't mind as long as it's done in a subtle way. ie say in Fallout 3, you're wandering around a destroyed city, but there's still a billboard up with a car ad or something, but it still looks wrecked and fits in with the environment

EDIT: I would however expect that in return there would have to be some sort of decrease in the pricing of games if they're getting advertising money.

This, and sports games work fine.

2010-06-29 09:44:57

#20

Graphic-J: The Artist formerly known as GraphicArtist-J; +196|6522|So Cal

Just keep the ads not so bright and it won't distract me from my fps game.
If it's on sports, then go for it all the way. Sports games + Advertising = Buttseks, the good kind. ;D

2010-06-29 09:47:20

#21

Benzin: Member; +576|6395

ghettoperson wrote:
I don't mind as long as it's done in a subtle way. ie say in Fallout 3, you're wandering around a destroyed city, but there's still a billboard up with a car ad or something, but it still looks wrecked and fits in with the environment

EDIT: I would however expect that in return there would have to be some sort of decrease in the pricing of games if they're getting advertising money.

yep

In CS 1.6 you have the occasional billboard up in the spawn points of the maps. Not really that distracting. They were running one for that Zombie movie or whatever recently.

2010-06-29 11:20:51

#22

Miggle: FUCK UBISOFT; +1,411|7138|FUCK UBISOFT

It doesn't make games cheaper.

That said, I didn't mind the best buys and burger kings in NFSU2, or the billboards in Burnout paradise. I really don't care whether they choose to advertise real or fake companies in my games as long as it isn't intrusive.

2010-06-29 11:28:35

#23

=NHB=Shadow: hi; +322|6762|California

if they made games cheaper i wouldn't care

2010-06-29 11:33:17

#24

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,069|7168|PNW

I'd be happy to see advertising in online games like with BF2142's billboards...but only if it's a contemporary setting. If it's, say, a game like Mafia 2, all I'd better see (for the sake of argument, assuming that it would have in-game ads) are era ads. If it's a future-based game, it's even more conditional. It's believable to assume Coca Cola might survive until 2142. It isn't realistic to assume that it would be across the galaxy being sipped by an alien species, and would be counter-immersive.

So yeah:

SenorToenails wrote:
It depends on how invasive and distracting it is. If done well, it probably wouldn't bother me too much.

11 Bravo wrote:
...in sports games. like fifa 10 it makes it look more realistic tbh. as for other games, i wouldnt mind at all.

Winston_Churchill wrote:
As long as it fits with the game, sure. Seeing Hello Kitty flashing pink and yellow banners in the middle of a battlefield would be slightly distracting.

=NHB=Shadow wrote:
if they made games cheaper i wouldn't care

2010-06-29 11:48:16

#25

FloppY_: +1,010|6682|Denmark aka Automotive Hell

Only if it was to replace fictional adds in the games... I'd hate for my games to become bilboards...

But tbh I'd rather not... they will allways seem invasive thanks to their makers trying to get as much attention as possible...

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