uziq
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v good. you hide your psychopathy well. but we all know what you write on bf2s. those long posts full of fantasy and sexual cruelty. the puppies can’t cover the stench, macb.
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I am not perfect but I am a legit friend to animals
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didn’t you poison your parents’ dog as part of some oedipal psychodynamical struggle?
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trying to give the other half the highlights reel of my life in the UK, and my old haunts in the variously genteel and intellectual spots of london, bristol, bath, etc. had to come meet my extended family, but that's not for here.

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was even quite close to dilbert's alma mater for a morning, although i doubt he'd recognise it anymore since the DEI hires and the gone-wokeism of particle physics, and so on. they're all trying to find new sub-atomic genders now.

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a spot of shopping for new home decorations (too effeminate to consider any more strenuous home personalisation).

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all the usual greatest hits.

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east london for bagels

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the City for absolution

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tried to include the whole range of stereotypical UK food, from pies and wellingtons to baltis and sticky toffee puddings.

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west coast is best coast, of course.

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the bbc weather described the week as one of 'anti-cyclonic gloom', which is almost parodically funny. we didn't see the sun for an entire week until the last evening in bath, when the permanent slate-grey finally admitted some other colours. about 4 degrees, cold, and drizzling the whole time. the UK in february can fuck right offffff!

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You have a good sense of style. I also try to look nice at work.
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You would definitely be popular among the liberal lady teachers and hypergamous substitutes and aides.
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looking good, macb. i wish i myself had more occasions to wear button-downs and ties (?) thesedays, but alas.

good word, hypergamy. learned that one in korea.

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You don't need an excuse to wear a dress shirt and tie.

I am working up towards doing the sports coat thing.
https://www.saintbernard.com/cdn/shop/files/JMBZ1690xLIGHTGRAYxAlt1_124065867.jpg?v=1709108024&width=1946
How do you feel about dress shoes at work?
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I like how they look with my outfits but the heels are loud. I sound like a horse walking down the hallway. Also they aren't comfortable when you are logging 6000 steps a work day.

I like your coat by the way. I was thinking of getting a tan one that is longer. Unfortunately I don't have the space to put all of these new clothes considering I love above the dentist office.
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i wear suits quite a lot but it's more like seersucker or some form of linen. light and loose-fitting suits. not really formalwear. i recently bought a 'british khaki' linen suit for this upcoming spring/summer, it's a fairly uncommon colour thesedays. just getting it adjusted and trimmed to size at the tailors in time for the sunnier weather. i bought typical suit trousers but matching suit shorts too. it gets really hot, really quick in asia.

i barely ever wear dress shoes except for specific formal occasions. i have a few pairs of really nice all-round shoes that match equally well with suits and then jeans/chinos/shorts/etc. i barely ever wear derby or oxford type shoes. it's just not really part of my work; it's not like the management class in publishing are dressed in suits or anything. people wear loafers or brogues or boots or suede chukkas or ... well, anything goes really. lots of new balance neutral-type trainers too.

the coat is a city macintosh. quite a common style in europe. from, erm, mackintosh, unsurprisingly enough:
https://www.mackintosh.com/products/men … -coat-fawn

or a place like burberry. that profile with the two small wing collars is common in the UK, france, italy, etc. anywhere where it's frequently wet but not particularly cold. they are not very thick or insulating coats; more of a top layer. would recommend a heavier fabric like a twill coat in seriously cold weather.

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Good stuff. Coats are interesting. I still have a few peacoats which I think have gone out of style compared to long flowy coats.
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The kind of tighter fit pants/jeans seems to be a thing of our generation too. Young people tend to go for more flowy pants. Especially girls.

I blame obesity. The tigh jeans and pants thing kind of requires someone to be in shape to look good. Being slim: another sign of privilege.
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apparently the 'upstate woodsman' look is coming back in certain quarters of NYC. that's how old we are, i guess. gen-z are cannibalising aspects of 2008 williamsburg aesthetic. imagine being the intrepid 20 year old to 'rediscover' red wing boots (i never subscribed to that particular look, thank god).

https://images.nymag.com/guides/everything/urbanwoodsman/woodsman100208_560.jpg

the fashion is now definitely for oversized and boxy silhouettes. we millennials are of the rolled-up drainpipe jeans, slim-fit jacket, etc. look. those thin silhouette things went out of fashion easily 5+ years ago; the Y2K aesthetic washed all that way. lots of under-25s are now wearing cargo trousers and even bell-bottom or flared jeans again.

bigger, more open trousers and oversized coats are in. you can pair them with small tshirts, tucked in. anything that's high on your hips, preferably with your nipples peeping through your belt loops, is 'sehr kool'. i mean, like, think 2/3s height taken up by trousers, the more billowing the better.

i'm excited to see the eventual return of the 21st century zoot suit. why not, it'll go with the new great depression and gilded age.

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i'm actually enjoying just getting into really nicely made japanese fashion and not paying any attention at all to western fashion trends. i look faintly ridiculous at this point if i try to keep up, anyway. a 35-year-old has no business trying to match the style of college kids. japan covers the sort of niche you'd expect: ludicrously well-made things with attention to the finest detail, but totally unassuming branding.

https://www.nanamica.com/f/collection_image/nanamica25SS/14_na24fw.jpg

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it is funny how fast you fade from being pretty cool and with-it to being 'unc' fashion. that wave definitely crashed for me during the pandemic years. i was pretty well-dressed when i shipped out to korea by millennial standards but i had zero in common with the young street-style fashionistas of seoul when i got there. the circle of life ...

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Fake lumberjack. That was an interesting aesthetic. FWIW those were some of the most liberal dudes back in the day. I think the aesthetic is more alt-right now. Reclaiming masculinity or whatever. I think the stuff was more an expression of working class back then. The Brooklyn Midwestern kids were rejecting the Bush era country club aesthetic of their wealthy families from back home.

I like the store uniqlo. My girlfriend introduced me to that place.
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In NYC there is a stereotype of well dressed FOB Asian women. I never interacted with them up until we started matching on apps. You mostly just saw them scurrying around keeping to themselves. My girlfriend was like "you would like Uniqlo. That is where all the Asians shop."
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Before that I was a Kohls guy. Well still am.

I feel bad for kids who get talked into wasting money on brands with big flashy logos. Supreme or that Kanye stuff. I try to explain that you don't need flashy logos or expensive clothing if you get it to fit right and act with confidence.

By the way have you been following the LVMH and other brands market woes recently? Disaster zone.
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uniqlo is pretty timeless. it's one of the best value stores for basics/essentials. muji, too, while you're dealing with the huge japanese stores. there's corner-store 24hr convenience places in japan that sell muji clothing, like, in practically every neighbourhood of every city. not just quick replacement undies but business classics like white shirts too, lol. for those salarymen who stay out nonstop and need a fresh change. there's a certain type of hipster in london/NYC/paris who covets the special collaboration stuff that uniqlo do. every winter season, for instance, they'll release some cool coat designs that are like really cheap but solid quality. it's a kind of low-stakes form of being a fashionista. queueing up to get the limited edition $220 coat.

the well-dressed asian women are definitely dressing 4 leagues above uniqlo. uniqlo is extremely cheap and disposable. no chinese/taiwanese/korean/japanese international student would be putting that stuff front and centre in their wardrobes. think $3000 coats and dresses instead. a person paying $100k a year for college tuition isn't going to the asian version of GAP. there's a plethora of 'k-fashion' brands that are all pretty interchangeable but do the mid-range stuff extremely well. no ostentatious branding but nice silhouettes and quality. seoul is probably the best-dressed city i've ever been to when it comes to the average NPC (tokyo far better for deep dives and uniqueness).

streetwear aka big flashy logo stuff is insane, yeah. korea was really bad for that. lots of 'hype beast' culture. queues around the block for a totally average $400 hoodie with a screen print on it. it's for adolescent guys with no bills or overheads.

i couldn't care less about LVMH and co. i think all their stuff is gauche and tasteless. it's stuff for materialistic chinese. i've never had any desire to own some 'designer' french thing that shouts with a pattern or logo that i paid a lot of money for it. i just do not understand that at all. it seems like an asian-coded version of those ed hardy tshirts you'd see everyone wearing in the 2000s. just the loudest, most gaudy stuff imaginable, purposefully priced at like 4000% mark-up. it doesn't express anything about a person having style or taste: it just shouts 'i paid a lot!'

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besides, isn't that conglomerate like the most valuable company in all of europe? i think they'll be okay selling their patterned handbags to shanghai housewives for a little longer.

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The Gucci and LV labeled stuff on clothing is tacky. Accessories like handbags, wallets, and watches all make sense. Those are a special class of durable goods. If we just invested in Bitcoin we could be gifting our Asian girlfriends LV bags.

Can you imagine how off the deep end we would have gone if we were Bitcoin millionaires in 2016.
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i would honestly never date someone with a LV or gucci bag. i turned down lots of those types in gangnam. women even rent the more expensive bags for a season in seoul. there’s a very identifiable type who get excited about french ‘luxury’ bags and accessories. the real classy chicks are a slice above all that vulgarity.

there’s like 70 other ways you can acquire top-quality ‘durable goods’ without that gross LV patterning on everything.

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the fake lumberjack look never really went away here. but there's a certain practicality to owning boots in the land of perpetual rain puddles, and there existing a comfy wool and flannel aesthetic in the corner of your coat closet. it's probably time for beards to fade into obscurity again. that stuff has been hijacked by people with wispy facial hair who pay a lot of attention to the masculinity gurus on the internet. all a beard will nab you is less preferential treatment when you have your first american food induced heart attack. and you don't want to look like vance, do you?

that said, looking like a model for carhartt is probably better than wearing a opinion tee, or one of those fake-aged graphic tees a ninja turtle on the front. while i don't want to sound unappreciative, a small amount of stuff i've been gifted was probably well-intentioned, but it's still last resort wear. if i have to go out in public wearing a t-shirt about playing video games all day long, a sweater's going over the top of it. (lesson: don't buy opinion tees for other people).

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What I learned today:

I've saved a shit-load of money not caring about my clothes.
Not as much as not caring about my car, but it must still add up to a fair bit - ~$2k/yr over 20 years -> enough to buy a car.
Embracing business casual as a lifestyle choice has been a big win overall, I don't even need two sets of clothes.
The worn out ones get repurposed for jobs around the house and weekend stuff.
Fuck Israel
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there's probably a line somewhere between stingy and being frugal.
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Dilbert_X wrote:

What I learned today:

I've saved a shit-load of money not caring about my clothes.
Not as much as not caring about my car, but it must still add up to a fair bit - ~$2k/yr over 20 years -> enough to buy a car.
Embracing business casual as a lifestyle choice has been a big win overall, I don't even need two sets of clothes.
The worn out ones get repurposed for jobs around the house and weekend stuff.
you really don’t have to spend a lot to dress well or look good. false notion precisely indulged in by clueless folks who plaster themselves in brand logos or buy gaudy accessories.

also: lol. “wow, if i totally neglected fashion and dressed like shit for TWENTY years i could save enough for an entry-level family sedan!”. sounds like a genius move, man. then you could finally catch the eye of that employer or your dream partner when you pull up in the KIA.

shoes, coats, a good suit, and a few pieces of quality knitwear. probably your most expensive items. anything that will be in contact with the ground or nature is worth the extra investment. it’s the old ‘poor person’s shoes’ thing again. an ‘expensive’ pair of shoes will last a decade. your cost-cutting ones need to be replaced after every year of heavy use. etc.

other than that, just a matter of priorities i guess. it really doesn’t take a huge chunk of income to look good. you feel better. people treat you better. you feel more professional. none of this is particularly deep, and it isn’t meant to be. taking a little pride in your appearance pays off. nobody is talking about vanity or self-love, just not dressing like your mum chooses your clothes for your entire life. it’s basic adulting 101 (a lot of people don’t seem to get the memo).

of course there are fashionistas who go down the rabbit hole and spend exorbitant amounts. if you’re into couture dresses or rare selvage denim, good for you i guess. they won’t be buying their clothes from wasteful fast-fashion outlets or implicating themselves in child slavery in the developing world. most ‘lol i don’t care about fashion’ people dress themselves in plastic and couldn’t care less how many 11 year old’s fingers it took. in a way, paying a lot for a locally made cotton shirt is the ethical choice because it recognises the resources that go into these garments without the current global trade of exploitation. so don’t be too sniffy and smug about these people, eh? plus, i thought you were all about appreciating fine craft and artisanal labour?

related, but i saw some right-wing talking point yesterday on X gloating about the ‘total defeat’ of hipsters and woke blue-hair types. lol. couldn’t be further from the truth. hipsters dressing like blue-collar truck drivers or woodsmen circa 2010 absolutely raised the bar of living for normies. everyone should be thanking them for their dreadfully earnest interest in artisan coffee and supporting local businesses. the consumer landscape has had a huge upgrade.

Everything hipsters were into 15 years ago went mainstream. You can buy raw denim at Uniqlo. Target has vinyl records. Your corner store has craft beer. Right wing chuds dress like urban lesbians and graphic designers did in 2010. Everyone drinks fancy coffee now. They won.

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funny mention at the end. another fence-trumper case I interact with does hobby beads, likes national parks (lol), and has animal sanctuary merch. often rewatches movies about and/or by lgb(tq(ia+)). almost pathologically freegan. they act quite chill until an opportunity presents itself to brag about the 2024 election, regurgitate talking points about the gay agenda taking over schools, or whine about the libs as some monolithic antagonist cosmically opposed to their very existence. blm, antifa, crt, wokeness, dei, grumbled about like clockwork and then quickly forgotten when the next bogeyman comes along.

I suspect and internalising a bunch of contradictory stuff happens to social chameleons who are overexposed to everything without properly absorbing and mulling it over.

"brandon"
me: "who?"
"you know, brandon"
"I really don't?"

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uziq
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i can guarantee you that a very high proportion of the herd who mocked at hipsters with their eccentric thrift-store outfits and exaggerated interest in microbrews now unreflectingly meet at their local (really rather good) brewery for IPAs on the weekends, or quietly take an interest in male-grooming products. many such cases.

it's just simple marketing 101. there's always vanguard groups, like 'early adopters' in tech, who take an interest years before anyone else and 'break' that product through a network effect to the majority. you may revile them or pillory them because of their fringe lifestyles and tastes, but deep down they're making an impression.

same thing sociologically with gentrification. a tale as old as time. broke artists, hipsters, LGBTQ+ outcasts, etc. inhabit the shitty parts of town and eventually build up a sort of buzz or glamour. fast forward 10 years and every boring accountant or software engineer wants to buy an apartment there to visit the artisanal coffee sour-dough bakeries on their weekends.
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out of the above group, there is a really disconcerting giddiness from the cheerleaders of punitive, retaliatory trump woke-ism, when one of the reasons they claim support was the idea of getting rid of 'woke' stuff. they actually enjoy the fact that language is being inhibited by the trump administration, even after years I've heard from some of them about how 'political correctness' has spun out of control. the people who unironically lost their shit about pluto losing its planet status ("who can keep track of this nonsense?"), giggle about the name change from GoM to GoA.

how am i supposed to respond to people snickering about cuts to services when said cuts affect them negatively. "but clinton did it, too!" i've gotten this morning. well, sure, but wasn't that with bipartisan support and an actual process? "trump's learned!" learned what? stop nodding sagaciously.

veering off-topic admittedly. i'm sure flaming_maniac would've dropped me an awm and post-deletion if we were back in 2008.

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I wonder what Flaming Maniac ended up as. Like what political identity did he take? He entered college before Trump even ran for president. The last message from him was a DM after I asked if he is partying at college. He said no.

He is younger than us. He must have just turned thirty. I wonder what kind of man he became.


...

ATG and lowing are probably Trump guys. I used to play with usmarine on the PS3. What a time.

...

I wish we had some meetups with the NYC area college kids like Superior Mind, 13/f/Taiwan, and even Poseidon. That sort of meetup internet wasn't really a thing yet.
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people in the online gaming 90s were meeting up for stuff like ren faires and taking group photos.

part of the reason mods went about stuff the way they did could possibly be pressure to perform.

I wonder what bannadictus is up to? he's the only one who has beaten orangehound in any mod action category.

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i also assumed FM was older, he was such a joyless pedantic midwit. he gave off the energy of an IRC channel mod or a gatekeeper to a D&G club. weird to think he’s 30 (?!) are you sure about that? so when i was like getting into flame wars pre-college, the guy lecturing me and wielding authority like a martinet was … 14?!

there were meet ups in the day. a lot of us spent entire summers chatting on team speak all the time. a lot of the flame wars were missing the context of the main actors having a laugh on voice chat.

i wonder what happened to people like lucien. used to play a lot of games with him back in the day but he went down a weird path, politically.

i still regularly interact with a bunch of bf2s’ers IRL. remember gooners? we chat on instagram/whatsapp a bunch about music and his creative career. really cool and well-adjusted guy. which is more than i guess you could say for about 60% of all the weirdos who hung out here.

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