Sports Stadiums

2010-07-11 12:55:24

#1

11 Bravo: Banned; +965|5627|Cleveland, Ohio

Couple questions about sports stadiums/arenas.

1) Are football stadiums in England paid for (like half tax money half investors money) with tax money?

2) Why do we in the US continue to support these disgusting salaries with tax money?

2010-07-11 13:24:49

#2

DrunkFace: Germans did 911; +427|7071|Disaster Free Zone

I can't speak for the UK, but in Australia most football/cricket grounds are owned by the state/local Governments and are leased out to the sporting clubs. The others are financed by private organisations (fund managers etc).

2010-07-11 13:34:25

#3

ATG: Banned; +5,233|6919|Global Command

[1] i dunno.
[2] see antonio vilagrossa

mayor of lost angles

gu

2010-07-11 14:02:44

#4

Flaming_Maniac: prince of insufficient light; +2,490|7096|67.222.138.85

Shit is astoundingly ridiculous, you know I'm from around Dallas so you know what I'm pissed about.

2010-07-11 15:18:51

#5

13/f/taiwan: Member; +940|6088

Flaming_Maniac wrote:
Shit is astoundingly ridiculous, you know I'm from New York City so you know what I'm pissed about.

2010-07-11 15:46:39

#6

m3thod: All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz; +2,197|7061|UK

Depends

New football stadiums in the UK are paid for using loans, see Wembley.

Money for new stadiums for london 2012 Olympics are most likely comming out of goverment funds.

Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.

2010-07-11 16:20:05

#7

Jenspm: penis; +1,716|7122|St. Andrews / Oslo

I'm pretty sure all the stadiums in Norway that aren't available to the public are owned and funded solely by the teams and investors.

The only exeption I can think of is the national stadium where the national team plays - the Norwegian football federation, which is funded by the government, owns 56% of it.

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2010-07-11 16:23:02

#8

Jenspm: penis; +1,716|7122|St. Andrews / Oslo

11 Bravo wrote:
2) Why do we in the US continue to support these disgusting salaries with tax money?

the cultural aspect, I guess?

I mean, operas, parks, theatres, cinemas, libraries and the like are widely funded by the government in many countries - why not fund sports stadiums as well?

2010-07-11 16:27:58

#9

11 Bravo: Banned; +965|5627|Cleveland, Ohio

Jenspm wrote:
11 Bravo wrote:
2) Why do we in the US continue to support these disgusting salaries with tax money?
the cultural aspect, I guess?

I mean, operas, parks, theatres, cinemas, libraries and the like are widely funded by the government in many countries - why not fund sports stadiums as well?

cuz the park ranger doesnt get 25 million dollars a year......

2010-07-11 16:45:20

#10

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,820|6496|eXtreme to the maX

11 Bravo wrote:
Couple questions about sports stadiums/arenas.

1) Are football stadiums in England paid for (like half tax money half investors money) with tax money?

2) Why do we in the US continue to support these disgusting salaries with tax money?

Same problem here.

The Romans figured out the games kept the population compliant, its been going on since then.

AFL chief executive Andrew Demetriou can't hide his delight at delivering his code an effectively new Adelaide stadium - for free.
The AFL won't pay a cent towards a redeveloped Adelaide Oval which will host AFL games within four years.

Demetriou's presence was pivotal in thawing a 40-year stand-off between the main two South Australian sporting bodies.

The SA Cricket Association (SACA) and SA National Football League (SANFL) had not been on speaking terms since a bitter split 40 years ago.

But Demetriou's peacemaking secured a government-funded $450 million redevelopment of Adelaide Oval, with AFL games and international cricket to share residency.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/a … 5806202289

$450 Million? FFS.....

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2010-07-11 16:46:36)

Fuck Israel

2010-07-11 22:31:37

#11

Spark: liquid fluoride thorium reactor; +874|7064|Canberra, AUS

Not happy with that one too. Wrecking one of the best cricket grounds in the world.

The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
^{~ Richard Feynman}

2010-07-11 22:58:08

#12

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|7106

Spark wrote:
Not happy with that one too. Wrecking one of the best cricket grounds in the world.

Yeah but no one really cares about cricket lelz.

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2010-07-11 23:44:07

#13

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,820|6496|eXtreme to the maX

$450 million spread across actual participation sports would be one thing.
To spend it so drunk fatties can eat pies and yell at each other is another.

Fuck Israel

2010-07-11 23:49:43

#14

-Sh1fty-: plundering yee booty; +510|5863|Ventura, California

Are sport stadiums not in use like 80% of the time?

During that time I'm sure tons of useful things could be done there in the meantime.

And above your tomb, the stars will belong to us.

2010-07-11 23:55:21

#15

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,820|6496|eXtreme to the maX

-Sh1fty- wrote:
Are sport stadiums not in use like 80% of the time?

During that time I'm sure tons of useful things could be done there in the meantime.

Erm, I think I know what you mean, what else can stadia be used for?

Fuck Israel

2010-07-12 00:25:19

#16

11 Bravo: Banned; +965|5627|Cleveland, Ohio

-Sh1fty- wrote:
Are sport stadiums not in use like 80% of the time?

not really

2010-07-12 01:04:54

#17

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,820|6496|eXtreme to the maX

11 Bravo wrote:
-Sh1fty- wrote:
Are sport stadiums not in use like 80% of the time?
not really

I think he means stadia are unused 80% of the time.

Fuck Israel

2010-07-12 01:06:22

#18

11 Bravo: Banned; +965|5627|Cleveland, Ohio

oh. then yes

2010-07-12 06:53:30

#19

DrunkFace: Germans did 911; +427|7071|Disaster Free Zone

Cybargs wrote:
Spark wrote:
Not happy with that one too. Wrecking one of the best cricket grounds in the world.
Yeah but no one really cares about cricket lelz.

Only the second most popular sport after Soccer... but no one cares.

2010-07-12 07:38:35

#20

Spark: liquid fluoride thorium reactor; +874|7064|Canberra, AUS

thought table tennis was tbh

The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
^{~ Richard Feynman}

2010-07-12 07:50:22

#21

Bertster7: Confused Pothead; +1,101|6971|SE London

11 Bravo wrote:
Couple questions about sports stadiums/arenas.

1) Are football stadiums in England paid for (like half tax money half investors money) with tax money?

National stadiums like Wembley, Cardiff and Olympics stadiums are paid for by the taxpayer (or taxpayer backed loans). Teams pay for their own.

2010-07-12 18:33:52

#22

Hurricane2k9: Pendulous Sweaty Balls; +1,538|6091|College Park, MD

I think the Nationals Stadium was funded at least in part by taxpayer money. Their goal was not only to provide a stadium for the Nationals, but also to revitalize the neighborhood.

Both goals have been accomplished. The Navy Yard and Waterfront neighborhoods where the stadium is used to be pretty run down. Now they have apartments like this:

http://www.onyxapts.com/

gentrification lel

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2010-07-12 18:58:46

#23

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,820|6496|eXtreme to the maX

In Aus:

Activity Participation rate (%)
Walking 39
Aerobics/fitness 17.1
Swimming 16.5
Cycling 10.5
Tennis 8.4
Running 8.3
Golf 7.9
Bushwalking 5.2
Soccer (outdoors) 4.2
Netball 3.6

http://www.dsr.wa.gov.au/assets/files/F … alians.pdf

That AFL and cricket get $450m spent on them is tiresome, the hiking trails get nothing, the single mountain bike park and velodrome bugger all.

Fuck Israel

2010-07-12 19:05:10

#24

Hurricane2k9: Pendulous Sweaty Balls; +1,538|6091|College Park, MD

what the fuck is bushwalking?

2010-07-12 19:06:47

#25

11 Bravo: Banned; +965|5627|Cleveland, Ohio

Hurricane2k9 wrote:
I think the Nationals Stadium was funded at least in part by taxpayer money. Their goal was not only to provide a stadium for the Nationals, but also to revitalize the neighborhood.

Both goals have been accomplished. The Navy Yard and Waterfront neighborhoods where the stadium is used to be pretty run down. Now they have apartments like this:

http://www.onyxapts.com/

gentrification lel

ya same thing happened in Cleveland....now the team stinks and those places are a ghost town. looked just like what you are describing. it dont last. but the millions and millions the players and owners get leave town.

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