13rin
Member
+977|6875
If I don't wear a seatbelt whils driving a fleet vehicle, I won't be insured or protected in the event of an accident.
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something.  - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,821|6502|eXtreme to the maX

jsnipy wrote:

If your injury or death from not wearing a safety belt results in disability which in turn gets you any state's financial assistance then I feel it is a concern of the state.
Fuck Israel
jord
Member
+2,382|7074|The North, beyond the wall.

Dilbert_X wrote:

jsnipy wrote:

If your injury or death from not wearing a safety belt results in disability which in turn gets you any state's financial assistance then I feel it is a concern of the state.
Disability would likely be the push needed to blow my brains out, with little cost to the state. Point is moot, taxes are squandered in far larger quantities elsewhere.
mikkel
Member
+383|6997

11 Bravo wrote:

mikkel wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:


if it affects other people yes.  a seatbelt only affects the individual, so idc about that.  some cunt yapping on his phone or dicking around with the gps concerns me.
Not wearing a seatbelt affects everyone in traffic when wearing one would have prevented serious injury or death. Don't make me wait for hours stuck in traffic because you had to skip the seatbelt and die, turning a tow-to-the-side-of-the-road accident into an emergency vehicle convention.

It isn't a matter of what you do in your car. It's a matter of what you do in your car on public roads.
i can say the same for food, coffee, music, cell phones, gps, people, etc...

but ya a seatbelt will most likely cause a traffic jam accident versus that stuff.
Perhaps it's "most likely" that the post is about seatbelts simply because the thread is about seatbelts, and the post I replied to was about how seatbelts don't affect anyone but the driver.
11 Bravo
Banned
+965|5633|Cleveland, Ohio

Dilbert_X wrote:

jsnipy wrote:

If your injury or death from not wearing a safety belt results in disability which in turn gets you any state's financial assistance then I feel it is a concern of the state.
you wont get it unless you were wearing your seatbelt kthx
11 Bravo
Banned
+965|5633|Cleveland, Ohio

mikkel wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

mikkel wrote:


Not wearing a seatbelt affects everyone in traffic when wearing one would have prevented serious injury or death. Don't make me wait for hours stuck in traffic because you had to skip the seatbelt and die, turning a tow-to-the-side-of-the-road accident into an emergency vehicle convention.

It isn't a matter of what you do in your car. It's a matter of what you do in your car on public roads.
i can say the same for food, coffee, music, cell phones, gps, people, etc...

but ya a seatbelt will most likely cause a traffic jam accident versus that stuff.
Perhaps it's "most likely" that the post is about seatbelts simply because the thread is about seatbelts, and the post I replied to was about how seatbelts don't affect anyone but the driver.
point is the seatbelt should be the least of your concerns.  YOUR point was YOUR time.  MY point was YOUR time would be MORE affected by those things.
mikkel
Member
+383|6997

11 Bravo wrote:

mikkel wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:


i can say the same for food, coffee, music, cell phones, gps, people, etc...

but ya a seatbelt will most likely cause a traffic jam accident versus that stuff.
Perhaps it's "most likely" that the post is about seatbelts simply because the thread is about seatbelts, and the post I replied to was about how seatbelts don't affect anyone but the driver.
point is the seatbelt should be the least of your concerns.  YOUR point was YOUR time.  MY point was YOUR time would be MORE affected by those things.
Did I ever suggest otherwise?
FFLink
There is.
+1,380|7087|Devon, England
Don't drive or travel in a car without one.

Feel really uncomfortable if I don't use one.
11 Bravo
Banned
+965|5633|Cleveland, Ohio

mikkel wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

mikkel wrote:

Perhaps it's "most likely" that the post is about seatbelts simply because the thread is about seatbelts, and the post I replied to was about how seatbelts don't affect anyone but the driver.
point is the seatbelt should be the least of your concerns.  YOUR point was YOUR time.  MY point was YOUR time would be MORE affected by those things.
Did I ever suggest otherwise?
you make no sense.  your time in traffic is not equated to a monetary value.  lots of things cause traffic, such is life on the road.

Last edited by 11 Bravo (2010-07-20 11:00:30)

Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|7017|London, England

M.O.A.B wrote:

They're all pro drivers in India.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjrEQaG5jPM
If you notice how slow everyone's going, it's not much of a shock. They're not really hurtling through that interchange recklessly. The difference is in places like the UK people go fast and then stop at designated areas (traffic lights etc..) and leave big gaps and all that, in India and places similar everyone goes much slower and leave small gaps and don't stop at designated places. You can cut infront of a bus but that bus is travelling very slowly anyway and they're all paying attention to what's going on in front.

Whereas in the UK or something we let traffic lights and the rules do all the work and that makes us go much faster, but if someone gets it wrong there's a bigger chance of a harder impact/big accident because it's so much more unexpected, whereas over there it's completely expected.

It's not like they're crossing the interchange with the mindset of "fuck fuck, quick quick before that bastard slams into us" as one who is used to roads over here would think. Nor for example would the bus coming down the road seeing the bike pull out in front think "fucking hell this nutter is pulling out in front of me I'm going to smash right into him" - it's a completely different mindset to the roads you would get over here.

It's not better, it's still a much worse system though.
eleven bravo
Member
+1,399|5655|foggy bottom
they also get like 3 deaths a day in mumbai from the trains
Tu Stultus Es
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6977|SE London

jord wrote:

Mum had a vauxhaul estate, belts were kinda tight so I never wore one. Nobody elses business really.
Except for the extra risk you are putting other people at by not wearing one. If it were only the safety of the person choosing not to wear the seatbelt, then it would be fine. That is not the case.
Airwolf
Latter Alcoholic
+287|7116|Scotland

FFLink wrote:

Feel really uncomfortable if I don't use one.
same, 2nd nature for me just to click in. Like... what if...
-Sh1fty-
plundering yee booty
+510|5870|Ventura, California

HaiBai wrote:

-Sh1fty- wrote:

mikkel wrote:


Not wearing a seatbelt affects everyone in traffic when wearing one would have prevented serious injury or death. Don't make me wait for hours stuck in traffic because you had to skip the seatbelt and die, turning a tow-to-the-side-of-the-road accident into an emergency vehicle convention.

It isn't a matter of what you do in your car. It's a matter of what you do in your car on public roads.


It's funny the way you put it, but I agree.

I nearly got into an accident on the freeway because some retard switched lanes from the exit into the middle lane without looking. That kind of retarded shit needs to be reeducated.
how did you get a license in 2 weeks...?
Oh, sorry! I misspoke, I don't actually have the license yet or anything, just the learning handbook. No I was with my boss on our way up to Santa Barbera when the person pulled in front of us. That could have been a really bad accident.
And above your tomb, the stars will belong to us.
mikkel
Member
+383|6997

11 Bravo wrote:

mikkel wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:


point is the seatbelt should be the least of your concerns.  YOUR point was YOUR time.  MY point was YOUR time would be MORE affected by those things.
Did I ever suggest otherwise?
you make no sense.  your time in traffic is not equated to a monetary value.  lots of things cause traffic, such is life on the road.
What the hell are you talking about?
jord
Member
+2,382|7074|The North, beyond the wall.

Bertster7 wrote:

jord wrote:

Mum had a vauxhaul estate, belts were kinda tight so I never wore one. Nobody elses business really.
Except for the extra risk you are putting other people at by not wearing one. If it were only the safety of the person choosing not to wear the seatbelt, then it would be fine. That is not the case.
What extra risk? How many people are injured by somebody flying through their window? As for the car I'm travelling in, well if someone has a concern for their own safety then they can request I wear a belt.
-Sh1fty-
plundering yee booty
+510|5870|Ventura, California
My Grandma's Acura has a automatic seatbelt. So once you close the door the seatbelt slides along the upper part of the roof to the back of your seat and then you have the shoulder strap. The waist strap needs to be done manually though.

So basically, each time you want to get in or out of your car, you have to wait for this annoying seatbelt to do it's thing.
And above your tomb, the stars will belong to us.
CammRobb
Banned
+1,510|6526|Carnoustie MASSIF

jord wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

jord wrote:

Mum had a vauxhaul estate, belts were kinda tight so I never wore one. Nobody elses business really.
Except for the extra risk you are putting other people at by not wearing one. If it were only the safety of the person choosing not to wear the seatbelt, then it would be fine. That is not the case.
What extra risk? How many people are injured by somebody flying through their window? As for the car I'm travelling in, well if someone has a concern for their own safety then they can request I wear a belt.
You are required by law to wear a seatbelt in the uk.

The extra risk incurred could be this;

bugz
Fission Mailed
+3,311|6708

My best friend's brother was coming up to an intersection and his brakes failed. They got t-boned as they went through the intersection which caused the truck to flip upside down into a ditch full of water. Passenger flew into the back seat cause he wasn't wearing a seatbelt. It actually saved his life because the passenger side was crushed all the way over to the gearshift.
jord
Member
+2,382|7074|The North, beyond the wall.

CammRobb wrote:

jord wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:


Except for the extra risk you are putting other people at by not wearing one. If it were only the safety of the person choosing not to wear the seatbelt, then it would be fine. That is not the case.
What extra risk? How many people are injured by somebody flying through their window? As for the car I'm travelling in, well if someone has a concern for their own safety then they can request I wear a belt.
You are required by law to wear a seatbelt in the uk.

The extra risk incurred could be this;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-9JR2P4wWI
Ya I've seen the advert, my posts are generally from the perspective of the driver. I can't remember the last time I sat in a backseat.
Metal-Eater-GR
I can haz titanium paancakez?
+490|6668

ebug9 wrote:

My best friend's brother was coming up to an intersection and his brakes failed. They got t-boned as they went through the intersection which caused the truck to flip upside down into a ditch full of water. Passenger flew into the back seat cause he wasn't wearing a seatbelt. It actually saved his life because the passenger side was crushed all the way over to the gearshift.
And your point is...?
mikkel
Member
+383|6997

ebug9 wrote:

My best friend's brother was coming up to an intersection and his brakes failed. They got t-boned as they went through the intersection which caused the truck to flip upside down into a ditch full of water. Passenger flew into the back seat cause he wasn't wearing a seatbelt. It actually saved his life because the passenger side was crushed all the way over to the gearshift.
Yeah, seatbelts can kill, but they do save a lot more people than they hurt.
tuckergustav
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+1,590|6310|...

My parents are both EMTs, so they were pretty adamant about wearing a seatbelt all the time.  So, I always do...however, I also believe it is a personal choice that does not put anyone's life in danger but your own.  The laws were put in place to create more revenue IMO.
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eleven bravo
Member
+1,399|5655|foggy bottom
what if you fly out your windshield and land on somebody's private property
Tu Stultus Es
tuckergustav
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+1,590|6310|...

OH NO!!!  Not private property!!! We have to make laws to protect private property from dead bodies!!!!  Good point. 
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