Ilocano
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Uzique wrote:

i love how galt always talks about the 'right' decisions in life when really the scale of his aspirations, and the purpose of his 'education' is to attain a job in middle-mangement obscurity. yeah... the right decisions if you want to scale the economic ladder into middle-class inanity.
Uh, MBA (prestigious one only) = Project Manager -->  Director --> VP --> SVP --> CxO
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6859
how is that again not subscribing to the single model of 'galt success'?

are you missing something here? i'm saying that trying to climb a corporate ladder isn't the only measurement of life success
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Ilocano
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Uzique wrote:

how is that again not subscribing to the single model of 'galt success'?

are you missing something here? i'm saying that trying to climb a corporate ladder isn't the only measurement of life success
Of course not.  Everyone has different measurements.  For me, career success, yes.  But also family.   Friends.  Material wealth.  Mile long funeral convoy...

But I was referring to your comment about his aspiration just to middle management.  MBA is not middle management.  MBA is to move beyond middle management.
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Uzique wrote:

i love how galt always talks about the 'right' decisions in life when really the scale of his aspirations, and the purpose of his 'education' is to attain a job in middle-mangement obscurity. yeah... the right decisions if you want to scale the economic ladder into middle-class inanity.
i rather like middle class.  well then again i grew up poor so i only know two classes, not three.
Jay
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Uzique wrote:

how is that again not subscribing to the single model of 'galt success'?

are you missing something here? i'm saying that trying to climb a corporate ladder isn't the only measurement of life success
When did I say 'you should' or 'we should' or 'everyone should'? I didn't. This is my plan and it's not for everyone.

JohnG@lt wrote:

I'm beelining for management and an MBA.
See? I used the word 'I'.

As for me measuring success in my life... I've always been an ultra competitive person. I used to be hyper aggressive as well but that faded while I was deployed and then came screeching to a halt when I had my motorcycle accident. Now I'm more cautious and calculating. This path in life fits my personality and skillset. Like I keep saying; it's not for everyone.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
Turquoise
O Canada
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Uzique wrote:

i love how galt always talks about the 'right' decisions in life when really the scale of his aspirations, and the purpose of his 'education' is to attain a job in middle-mangement obscurity. yeah... the right decisions if you want to scale the economic ladder into middle-class inanity.
I work to live, not live to work.  Sure, I like my job, but what I do outside of the workplace is what keeps me going.

Now, Galt's perspective might be different as I'm sure yours likely is, but most people seem to operate the same way I do.  We work for the weekends.



[/obligatory 80s reference]
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Uzique wrote:

so you hate shitty institutions but then also hate the snobbery and elitism you get at top-ranked ones? you can't have it both ways.
Yes I can, leave me to my idealised view of the world, i'm only an innocent ucas applicant, ready to my have my views of the world smashed.
I'd type my pc specs out all fancy again but teh mods would remove it. Again.
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6859
here's a truth about university for you

there's the haves and the have-nots

the haves enjoy university, generally act like pricks, and take everything for granted

the have-nots put their heads down, work hard, spite the haves, and aspire to reach a point where their own children can, ironically, be haves

you're going to face social enmity wherever you go... that's the real world

Last edited by Uzique (2010-12-16 09:37:21)

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Uzique wrote:

here's a truth about university for you

there's the haves and the have-nots

the haves enjoy university, generally act like pricks, and take everything for granted

the have-nots put their heads down, work hard, spite the haves, and aspire to reach a point where their own children can, ironically, be haves

you're going to face social enmity wherever you go... that's the real world
very true...

poor people hate the rich, but want to be rich.
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6859
yeah, it's not a university-thing, or anything especial to certain institutions

the reason you 'feel' it so jarringly in university is because it's the first time you emerge from your small, socio-economic 'pond' into a larger 'lake'.

going to school locally and hanging out with all your schoolfriends for however-many-years gives you a narrow conception of 'the world'.

first year of university is always an eye-opener; whether you realize how lucky you are, or how poor you are... either way
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O Canada
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Uzique wrote:

yeah, it's not a university-thing, or anything especial to certain institutions

the reason you 'feel' it so jarringly in university is because it's the first time you emerge from your small, socio-economic 'pond' into a larger 'lake'.

going to school locally and hanging out with all your schoolfriends for however-many-years gives you a narrow conception of 'the world'.

first year of university is always an eye-opener; whether you realize how lucky you are, or how poor you are... either way
That, and you realize just how out of touch much of the college environment is when compared to the real world...
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6859
depends on the institution... but yes, top end universities are very 'ivory tower'. but that's okay- they are their own hermetic environment, really.

the economic realities of classism, however, are universal.
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Uzique
dasein.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree … ition-fees

cutting satire, as ever, by mr. brooker

i think he deals rather nicely with all the idiotic 'subject elitists' on here, too
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Dilbert_X
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Uzique wrote:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/dec/20/charlie-brooker-how-cut-tuition-fees

cutting satire, as ever, by mr. brooker

i think he deals rather nicely with all the idiotic 'subject elitists' on here, too
Very satirical, but like most of the intelligentsia he doesn't have an answer or any ideas on how to get to an answer.

Maybe he'd like to take GBP 9,000 a year out of his salary and sponsor a literature student to surf the web and play video games with no job at the end of it?

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2010-12-20 00:30:07)

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Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6859
hey dilbert you cunt

shut the fuck up

"sponsor a literature student to surf the web and play games"

i've written 10k words this week and have pulled full working-shift hours of reading research every-day, much like the rest of this entire term.

don't be such a condescending fucking wankstain. im sorry your life sucks, but keep that fucking shit out of D&ST
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Uzique wrote:

hey dilbert you cunt

shut the fuck up

"sponsor a literature student to surf the web and play games"

i've written 10k words this week and have pulled full working-shift hours of reading research every-day, much like the rest of this entire term.

don't be such a condescending fucking wankstain. im sorry your life sucks, but keep that fucking shit out of D&ST
The article you linked was written by a condescending wankstain, sneering at anyone who didn't agree that waste-of-time courses and lazy academics shouldn't receive unlimited state funding to slouch around contemplating irrelevant trivia.

You've chosen that life, why should anyone else fund it? That journalist certainly wouldn't be prepared to out of his pocket, nor did he come with any justification as to why the average taxpayer should - he did write a stream of condescending drivel though - is there a special class in that at uni?
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Dilbert_X wrote:

Uzique wrote:

hey dilbert you cunt

shut the fuck up

"sponsor a literature student to surf the web and play games"

i've written 10k words this week and have pulled full working-shift hours of reading research every-day, much like the rest of this entire term.

don't be such a condescending fucking wankstain. im sorry your life sucks, but keep that fucking shit out of D&ST
The article you linked was written by a condescending wankstain, sneering at anyone who didn't agree that waste-of-time courses and lazy academics shouldn't receive unlimited state funding to slouch around contemplating irrelevant trivia.

You've chosen that life, why should anyone else fund it? That journalist certainly wouldn't be prepared to out of his pocket, nor did he come with any justification as to why the average taxpayer should - he did write a stream of condescending drivel though - is there a special class in that at uni?

Uzique wrote:

satire

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satire
charlie brooker is awesome, seems you dont get it though
I'd type my pc specs out all fancy again but teh mods would remove it. Again.
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6859
dilbert it's cute how you'll never get over your shitty-traumatically boring experience of english in kindergarten, so you insist on dredging that shit up in every single thread involving 'intellectual' subjects or 'academia' and try and qualify it as the 'objective truth' on the matter. your opinion on the arts and academic subjects is irrelevant-- you are nobody. your views are terribly uninformed. i'm glad that brilliant satirists like charlie brooker get given column-inches instead of predictable, borish shit like you.
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Dilbert_X
The X stands for
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You quoted a one-sided snobby piece of satire which adds nothing useful to the debate on why taxpayers should fund arts courses, you're not helping your argument.

You are also a nobody - maybe keep that in mind.
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Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6859

Dilbert_X wrote:

You quoted a one-sided snobby piece of satire which adds nothing useful to the debate on why taxpayers should fund arts courses, you're not helping your argument.

You are also a nobody - maybe keep that in mind.
i know im a nobody, that's why i haven't taken it upon myself to ever profess in 26 pages of this thread which subjects and personal directions in life are 'worthy' and which are 'not'. maybe you should remember that yourself, cunt.

one-sided snobby piece of satire? i find it extremely egalitarian. it's promoting the humanistic open-education of everybody, regardless of department/subject/background, and impervious to wider economic conditions. how is that snobby? it's mocking and condescending to the ministers and politicians, yes certainly... but only because they are apparently strategising with the foresight and tact of small-children. hence the patronising is warranted.

the article is also about much more than 'taxpayers funding the arts'. this is not what the debate over tuition fees is about. taxpayers have always funded arts and always will- regardless of your personal vendettas and clueless little 'opinions' on the matter. ancient greek citizens paid for their arts. rich patrons sponsored artists whilst peasants and merchants slaved away for their daily bread. arts and culture will always be billed to the majority of clueless, money-chasing bourgeoisie bee-workers. get over it you stupid old fuck.

Last edited by Uzique (2010-12-20 15:56:20)

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Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6794|North Carolina

Uzique wrote:

the article is also about much more than 'taxpayers funding the arts'. this is not what the debate over tuition fees is about. taxpayers have always funded arts and always will- regardless of your personal vendettas and clueless little 'opinions' on the matter. ancient greek citizens paid for their arts. rich patrons sponsored artists whilst peasants and merchants slaved away for their daily bread. arts and culture will always be billed to the majority of clueless, money-chasing bourgeoisie bee-workers. get over it you stupid old fuck.
What mandates that arts must be funded publicly?  Aren't private funds sufficient?

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