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Julian Assange, the founder of WikiLeaks, has been arrested by British police over allegations of sex crimes in Sweden, police have said.

The 39-year-old Australian handed himself in to a London police station at about 09:30 GMT on Tuesday, where he was detained under a European Arrest Warrant.

"He is accused by the Swedish authorities of one count of unlawful coercion, two counts of sexual molestation and one count of rape, all alleged to have been committed in August 2010," police said in a statement.

He is due to appear before City of Westminster Magistrates Court in London later on Tuesday, where a date for an extradition hearing is likely to be set.

Mark Stephens, one of Assange's lawyers, said that Sweden appeared to have been manipulated by the US, which has been angered by WikiLeaks latest release of classified documents.

"The question is, are the Swedes being manipulated by a third party actor or is there any improper interference?" he said in an interview with Al Jazeera.

He added that the Swedish prosecutor had not told Assange what the nature of the allegations are or what the evidence is against him.

"I have to say, the way you have a prosecutor from Sweden, the most civilised country ordinarily, who isn't complying with her obligations under the United Nation's requirements for prosecutors, who's not complying with Swedish law ... then you have to start asking yourself ... whether there is some other motivation going on here, which is the unseen hand."

However, Marianne Ny, the Swedish director of prosecution, told Swedish media last week that Assange's lawyers had been given all the information that is appropriate to share at the current stage of the investigation.

Extradition possible

Assange is accused of rape and sexual molestation in Sweden, and the case could lead to his extradition. He has denied the accusations, which Stephens has said stem from a "dispute over consensual but unprotected sex".

According to media reports, Assange slept with two women during a visit to Sweden in August. One of them has been quoted by a Swedish newspaper as saying that the sex was consensual to begin with, but ended with abuse.

In an interview with Aftonbladet, one of the women dismissed claims that the allegations had been orchestrated by the Pentagon.

"The responsibility for what happened to me and the other girl lies with a man with a twisted attitude to women and problem to take a no for an answer," she told the paper.

Jennifer Robinson, Assange's London-based lawyer, said her client would likely resist being returned to Sweden for fear he could be turned over to the US where outrage is growing over the leak of documents.

"[The Swedish prosecutor] said publicly on television last night that all she wants is his side of the story. Now we've offered that on numerous occasions. There is no need for him to return to Sweden to do that," she said.

"I think he will get a fair hearing here in Britain but I think our, his, prospects if he were ever to be returned to the US, which is a real threat, of a fair trial, is, in my view, nigh on impossible," she told Australian broadcaster the ABC.

'Grossly irresponsible'

On Tuesday, Julia Gillard, Australia's prime minister, said that posting the US diplomatic correspondence on the web was "grossly irresponsible" and that the publication would not have been possible "if there had not been an illegal act undertaken" in the United States.

Gillard had previously said that publishing the documents was an illegal act, without saying why.

She said police were still investigating whether Assange had broken any Australian laws.

In an opinion piece published in The Australian newspaper on Tuesday, Assange attacked Gillard, saying her government was trying to "shoot the messenger because it doesn't want the truth revealed".

"Has there been any response from the Australian government to the numerous public threats of violence against me and other WikiLeaks personnel?" he wrote.

"One might have thought an Australian prime ministe would be defending her citizens against such things, but there have only been wholly unsubstantiated claims of illegality".

WikiLeaks has been under intense international scrutiny over its disclosure of a mountain of classified US cables that have embarrassed Washington and other governments.

US officials have been putting pressure on WikiLeaks and those who help it, and is investigating whether Assange can be prosecuted under espionage law.

The pressure on WikiLeaks has increased as the Swiss authorities closed Assange's bank account,depriving him of a key fundraising tool.

WikiLeaks has struggled to stay online amid an increase in hacker attacks and resistance from world governments, receiving help from computer-savvy advocates who have set up hundreds of "mirrors", or carbon-copy websites around the world.

In what Assange described as a last-ditch deterrent, WikiLeaks has warned that it has distributed a heavily encrypted version of some of its most important documents and that the information could be instantly made public if the staff were arrested.
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Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6793|North Carolina
As much as I dislike Assange, I think the sex charges against him are starting to look more and more like bullshit.

I'd rather he be prosecuted for leaking sensitive documents.
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,820|6494|eXtreme to the maX
Maybe they're Mossad plants like Monica Lewinsky.
Fuck Israel
jsnipy
...
+3,277|6910|...

Turquoise wrote:

I'd rather he be prosecuted for leaking sensitive documents.
Honestly he is not the leaker of documents, the real leaker is in the US Military. I think his hero status is misplaced.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6793|North Carolina

jsnipy wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

I'd rather he be prosecuted for leaking sensitive documents.
Honestly he is not the leaker of documents, the real leaker is in the US Military. I think his hero status is misplaced.
Well, he's still an accessory to Manning's treason.  If a source like the New York Times had received these documents, they would have handled the release of information differently, and fewer lives would be at risk.

Assange may not be as bad as Manning in terms of undermining our national security, but he's certainly an accomplice in this.
Trotskygrad
бля
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have fun in Guantanamo, Assange.

He should go there to be honest.

He should be prosecuted for aiding the leaking of the documents, ofc. Manning had to have someone to leak to.
jsnipy
...
+3,277|6910|...

Turquoise wrote:

jsnipy wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

I'd rather he be prosecuted for leaking sensitive documents.
Honestly he is not the leaker of documents, the real leaker is in the US Military. I think his hero status is misplaced.
Well, he's still an accessory to Manning's treason.  If a source like the New York Times had received these documents, they would have handled the release of information differently, and fewer lives would be at risk.

Assange may not be as bad as Manning in terms of undermining our national security, but he's certainly an accomplice in this.
I am not speaking one side of this or the other, but were lives in fact in danger? I know that is the byline in the media, but is it a fact? Some of the stuff seemed embarrassing perhaps, but was it real truly valuable intelligence? 

Also, whole "it happened because of information sharing after 911". I've been part of some of these data sharing efforts, information sharing does not mean broadcasting it to everyone regardless of security classification and role. Its infuriating like listening to the news talk about it in the same way they talk about hacking or viruses with this spin doom and gloom spin to it.

As far as Assange goes there is nothing cool or clever about him, merely an opportunist capitalizing on others. It was really uncool of pay pal and others to seize up his assets over an issue that, would he have been you or me, they would not have done.
mcminty
Moderating your content for the Australian Govt.
+879|7109|Sydney, Australia

jsnipy wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

jsnipy wrote:


Honestly he is not the leaker of documents, the real leaker is in the US Military. I think his hero status is misplaced.
Well, he's still an accessory to Manning's treason.  If a source like the New York Times had received these documents, they would have handled the release of information differently, and fewer lives would be at risk.

Assange may not be as bad as Manning in terms of undermining our national security, but he's certainly an accomplice in this.
I am not speaking one side of this or the other, but were lives in fact in danger? I know that is the byline in the media, but is it a fact? Some of the stuff seemed embarrassing perhaps, but was it real truly valuable intelligence?
There was an interesting column by one of our MP's in today's Sydney Morning Herald regarding the political risk of making Assange a martyr over a lot of no-value cables. Interesting read.. http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/ … 18ppy.html
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6793|North Carolina

jsnipy wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

jsnipy wrote:


Honestly he is not the leaker of documents, the real leaker is in the US Military. I think his hero status is misplaced.
Well, he's still an accessory to Manning's treason.  If a source like the New York Times had received these documents, they would have handled the release of information differently, and fewer lives would be at risk.

Assange may not be as bad as Manning in terms of undermining our national security, but he's certainly an accomplice in this.
I am not speaking one side of this or the other, but were lives in fact in danger? I know that is the byline in the media, but is it a fact? Some of the stuff seemed embarrassing perhaps, but was it real truly valuable intelligence? 

Also, whole "it happened because of information sharing after 911". I've been part of some of these data sharing efforts, information sharing does not mean broadcasting it to everyone regardless of security classification and role. Its infuriating like listening to the news talk about it in the same way they talk about hacking or viruses with this spin doom and gloom spin to it.

As far as Assange goes there is nothing cool or clever about him, merely an opportunist capitalizing on others. It was really uncool of pay pal and others to seize up his assets over an issue that, would he have been you or me, they would not have done.
Here's an example of the lives that have been lost...

http://www.dailytech.com/Taliban+Murder … e19250.htm
Hurricane2k9
Pendulous Sweaty Balls
+1,538|6090|College Park, MD

Turquoise wrote:

jsnipy wrote:

Turquoise wrote:


Well, he's still an accessory to Manning's treason.  If a source like the New York Times had received these documents, they would have handled the release of information differently, and fewer lives would be at risk.

Assange may not be as bad as Manning in terms of undermining our national security, but he's certainly an accomplice in this.
I am not speaking one side of this or the other, but were lives in fact in danger? I know that is the byline in the media, but is it a fact? Some of the stuff seemed embarrassing perhaps, but was it real truly valuable intelligence? 

Also, whole "it happened because of information sharing after 911". I've been part of some of these data sharing efforts, information sharing does not mean broadcasting it to everyone regardless of security classification and role. Its infuriating like listening to the news talk about it in the same way they talk about hacking or viruses with this spin doom and gloom spin to it.

As far as Assange goes there is nothing cool or clever about him, merely an opportunist capitalizing on others. It was really uncool of pay pal and others to seize up his assets over an issue that, would he have been you or me, they would not have done.
Here's an example of the lives that have been lost...

http://www.dailytech.com/Taliban+Murder … e19250.htm
"They report that the Taliban believes the documents showed it U.S. sources, including the murder victim, Abdullah -- whether or not they truly do."

Maybe I'm reading that sentence incorrectly?
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Dilbert_X
The X stands for
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And how many lives will have been saved by wikileaks?
We hear all the time about collateral damage being a necessary part of war, the argument swings both ways.

If it means various govts have to think twice about going to war based on an agenda instead of evidence then so be it.
Fuck Israel
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6793|North Carolina

Hurricane2k9 wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

jsnipy wrote:


I am not speaking one side of this or the other, but were lives in fact in danger? I know that is the byline in the media, but is it a fact? Some of the stuff seemed embarrassing perhaps, but was it real truly valuable intelligence? 

Also, whole "it happened because of information sharing after 911". I've been part of some of these data sharing efforts, information sharing does not mean broadcasting it to everyone regardless of security classification and role. Its infuriating like listening to the news talk about it in the same way they talk about hacking or viruses with this spin doom and gloom spin to it.

As far as Assange goes there is nothing cool or clever about him, merely an opportunist capitalizing on others. It was really uncool of pay pal and others to seize up his assets over an issue that, would he have been you or me, they would not have done.
Here's an example of the lives that have been lost...

http://www.dailytech.com/Taliban+Murder … e19250.htm
"They report that the Taliban believes the documents showed it U.S. sources, including the murder victim, Abdullah -- whether or not they truly do."

Maybe I'm reading that sentence incorrectly?
It seems odd that they would thank a source for providing them something it didn't have, so that's why I'm assuming that it really did have Abdullah in it.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6793|North Carolina

Dilbert_X wrote:

And how many lives will have been saved by wikileaks?
We hear all the time about collateral damage being a necessary part of war, the argument swings both ways.

If it means various govts have to think twice about going to war based on an agenda instead of evidence then so be it.
Every war has agendas, and wikileaks isn't going to change that, nor is any other media source that succeeds it.
13rin
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Waterboard his ass!
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Stingray24
Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy
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One of the women said he had sex with her while she was sleeping ... either she had taken a sleeping pill or he has more than one kind of releasing issue.
Macbeth
Banned
+2,444|5974

Computer hackers sent one of the world’s biggest credit card companies into meltdown yesterday in revenge for cutting off payments to the WikiLeaks website.

The attack was launched by a shadowy international group called ‘Anonymous’ which said MasterCard had been targeted for freezing the account of the whistleblowing site.

The devastating blow to MasterCard, as well as the online payment network PayPal and a Swiss bank, came on one of the busiest online shopping days of the year.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article … z17agW0hkj
Daily mail rah rah. It's getting reported everywhere...


It's too bad that it's impossible to track down and punish all of these people but whatever. The hilarious thing about all this is that they took down Paypal. A lot of small businesses, you know the 'little guys', rely on paypal to transfer money around the internet. All they did was inconvenience and cost the 'little guys' a bunch of money.

but whatever YOU ARE FIGHTING THE MAN
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6989|132 and Bush

Macbeth wrote:

Computer hackers sent one of the world’s biggest credit card companies into meltdown yesterday in revenge for cutting off payments to the WikiLeaks website.

The attack was launched by a shadowy international group called ‘Anonymous’ which said MasterCard had been targeted for freezing the account of the whistleblowing site.

The devastating blow to MasterCard, as well as the online payment network PayPal and a Swiss bank, came on one of the busiest online shopping days of the year.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article … z17agW0hkj
Daily mail rah rah. It's getting reported everywhere...


It's too bad that it's impossible to track down and punish all of these people but whatever. The hilarious thing about all this is that they took down Paypal. A lot of small businesses, you know the 'little guys', rely on paypal to transfer money around the internet. All they did was inconvenience and cost the 'little guys' a bunch of money.

but whatever YOU ARE FIGHTING THE MAN
Can someone please leak the names of every hacker attacking visa, mc, amazon, and paypal?
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-Sh1fty-
plundering yee booty
+510|5862|Ventura, California

Turquoise wrote:

As much as I dislike Assange, I think the sex charges against him are starting to look more and more like bullshit.

I'd rather he be prosecuted for leaking sensitive documents.
The sex charges are bullshit, everybody knows that; but everybody wants this guy out of commission. He's fucking with every government. To quote Glenn Beck, "Even if this guy was piss drunk, and got hit by a semi-truck crossing a freeway at night it would still look like he was assassinated." He said something along those lines which I completely agree with.

Since they can't kill the guy, arresting him is their only option. The only problem is this douche hasn't done anything wrong.
And above your tomb, the stars will belong to us.
DrunkFace
Germans did 911
+427|7069|Disaster Free Zone

-Sh1fty- wrote:

The only problem is this douche hasn't done anything wrong.
Which is the whole point. This entire thing is bullshit.

Also the Australian PM is a fucking retard.
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
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https://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y76/unnamednewbie13/loose.jpg

Naw, but seriously. Not a whole lot on wikileaks is much of a surprise.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6989|132 and Bush

Dilbert_X wrote:

And how many lives will have been saved by wikileaks?
Are you serious?
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Shahter
Zee Ruskie
+295|7163|Moscow, Russia

Turquoise wrote:

As much as I dislike Assange, I think the sex charges against him are starting to look more and more like bullshit.

I'd rather he be prosecuted for leaking sensitive documents.
he should have been found in his apartment with an ice axe in his head right after he released his shit the second time. all this comedy with sex charges makes US secret service look like a buch of pussies.

Last edited by Shahter (2010-12-08 23:06:29)

if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6793|North Carolina

DrunkFace wrote:

-Sh1fty- wrote:

The only problem is this douche hasn't done anything wrong.
Which is the whole point. This entire thing is bullshit.

Also the Australian PM is a fucking retard.
Aiding in espionage is a crime actually.  Assange has successfully rendered himself as an enemy of the American state.  He can't be charged with treason because he's not an American citizen, but he can be charged with aiding Manning in an act of treason.
-Sh1fty-
plundering yee booty
+510|5862|Ventura, California

Turquoise wrote:

DrunkFace wrote:

-Sh1fty- wrote:

The only problem is this douche hasn't done anything wrong.
Which is the whole point. This entire thing is bullshit.

Also the Australian PM is a fucking retard.
Aiding in espionage is a crime actually.  Assange has successfully rendered himself as an enemy of the American state.  He can't be charged with treason because he's not an American citizen, but he can be charged with aiding Manning in an act of treason.
The current socialist left government is a thin-skinned bunch of pussies. They don't do a damn thing about defense because they care too much about what the rest of this world thinks of 'em.

Now the U.S. is just every country's bitch they slap around.
And above your tomb, the stars will belong to us.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6989|132 and Bush

Shahter wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

As much as I dislike Assange, I think the sex charges against him are starting to look more and more like bullshit.

I'd rather he be prosecuted for leaking sensitive documents.
he should have been found in his apartment with an ice axe in his head right after he released his shit the second time. all this comedy with sex charges makes US secret service look like a buch of pussies.
.. what about the British and the Swiss?  By your logic it would appear that they are a couple rungs down below the US secret service.. below pussies. Lapdog to pussies so to speak. Man. If only the world could be more like Russia. That would be tits.
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