[Final Fantasy XIV] Producer/Director demoted, new dev team.

2010-12-13 07:20:17

#1

UON: Junglist Massive; +223|6908

Perhaps a change of direction is coming, although given the rough start they have alot to make up for.

http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com/pl … 3e4362e17f

This game got a bad rep at launch but personally I'm enjoying it. But then I've always liked the underdog.

I played battlefield 2 for a quite a while and to be honest I got turned me off the whole glamorisation of war thing, and I decided I'd rather be running round with cat women smacking goblins and dragons about.

I think the main issue that stitched it up in the reviews is that there were expectations of something more accessible and player friendly. But that's not what a FF MMO should be about.. should be about battering the player repeatedly about the face with extreme difficulty and long, hard grinds for levels so that there's some (false) sense of accomplishment when you get there. And that's something you can't capture in a review of a game that's only just come out.

But in compromising where they have, they also turned off the most hardcore, who found they didn't have any achievements to work towards that took 43231 hours to achieve available from launch day.

All in all, if you don't care about being the best of the best and just take a nice slow pace, this game is actually not a bad way to while away your evenings, and with the monthly updates there's plenty to look forward to in the future.

In summary: It's not WoW.

Now, great masses, please feel free to shoot me down.

2010-12-13 07:24:08

#2

Trotskygrad: бля; +354|6254|Vortex Ring State

UON wrote:
Now, great masses, please feel free to shoot me down.

YOU WANT A FIGHT?

no you can't have one

\_/

2010-12-13 07:31:40

#3

UON: Junglist Massive; +223|6908

Trotskygrad wrote:
UON wrote:
Now, great masses, please feel free to shoot me down.
YOU WANT A FIGHT?

no you can't have one

\_/

Not really, just alot of people have very negative opinions of the game. They're welcome to them, just saying don't believe the reviews. It's either a game for you or not.

2010-12-13 10:20:21

#4

Trotskygrad: бля; +354|6254|Vortex Ring State

UON wrote:
Trotskygrad wrote:
UON wrote:
Now, great masses, please feel free to shoot me down.
YOU WANT A FIGHT?

no you can't have one

\_/
Not really, just alot of people have very negative opinions of the game. They're welcome to them, just saying don't believe the reviews. It's either a game for you or not.

I think it's a fine game, just another FF...

2010-12-13 10:39:35

#5

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6725

a game not being WoW is certainly a strength and something to advertise

but it doesn't excuse a game being absolutely shit

sorry

where's FFLink, the top patron of FF-online games, to come tell me how wrong i've been, and what a tremendous success it has been?

_{libertarian benefit collector - anti-academic super-intellectual}. _{http://mixlr.com/the-little-phrase/}

2010-12-13 13:07:19

#6

FFLink: There is.; +1,380|6946|Devon, England

What server are you on? I got 'forced' to restart on a new server to join other friends and since finding that out I've not put much, if any, time into the game.

It was great when I played it - definitely had it's missing parts, but coming from an MMO such as FFXI, you learn that it's how a good MMO should be. Slow, yet rewarding for your time eventually. The game's unfinished, clearly, but it's all working well. The content is just being added to it, as shown in updates and news on future updates. The fact that they themselves see this as sort of fucking over paying customers, therefore not charging monthly fees til all's well is really commendable, IMO.

Also, I hate constant WoW comparisons. They're different kinds of MMO. That game's for simple gamers, in my opinion (see above poster). I'm glad to see the new team line-up and glad they aren't even charging until it's to up to what it should be.

I shall be getting into it again swiftly after the December update. Can't wait

Also, Uzique, it's successful and being dealt with to the people who matter. You're wrong, as are many, many things about your weird little life.

E: I shall be moving to Wutai server

Last edited by FFLink (2010-12-13 13:07:56)

2010-12-13 13:15:54

#7

War Man: Australians are hermaphrodites.; +564|6969|Purplicious Wisconsin

I hate the acting of the new FF games, one reason I also dislike most anime as well. The acting ruins it for me which is why I stopped at X

The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.

2010-12-13 14:36:02

#8

DefCon-17: Maple Syrup Faggot; +362|6411|Vancouver | Canada

All FF games are shit, tbh.

2010-12-13 14:40:07

#9

Doctor Strangelove: Real Battlefield Veterinarian.; +1,758|6723

Hey Link, what was your favorite Michael Cera role?

2010-12-13 14:43:35

#10

FFLink: There is.; +1,380|6946|Devon, England

I prefer his earlier work.

2010-12-13 14:44:50

#11

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6725

lol, so funny

WoW is for simple gamers

FF online is for hardcore elite gamers

by hardcore elite, you mean, people that are stupid enough to play a game with shit design and poor thought

whatever helps you feel better about being all 'alternative', fflink, young padawan

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2010-12-13 14:46:41

#12

Doctor Strangelove: Real Battlefield Veterinarian.; +1,758|6723

FFLink wrote:
I prefer his earlier work.

How early?

2010-12-13 14:47:37

#13

FFLink: There is.; +1,380|6946|Devon, England

It's cool you think it's hardcore. I wouldn't have used those words, but your opinion's your opinion.

You child, you.

2010-12-13 14:48:34

#14

FFLink: There is.; +1,380|6946|Devon, England

Doctor Strangelove wrote:
FFLink wrote:
I prefer his earlier work.
How early?

I dunno, what was his first thing? I'll go with that.

2010-12-13 14:51:55

#15

Doctor Strangelove: Real Battlefield Veterinarian.; +1,758|6723

https://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m182/DoctaStrangelove/GOBwithaJOB.jpg

2010-12-13 14:52:44

#16

RTHKI: mmmf mmmf mmmf; +1,741|6992|Cinncinatti

great show

2010-12-13 14:56:50

#17

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6725

FFLink wrote:
It's cool you think it's hardcore. I wouldn't have used those words, but your opinion's your opinion.

You child, you.

of course i don't think it's any more hardcore... it's only more hardcore in the sense that free-korean mmo's are hardcore: a boring, mindless fucking treadmill grind that takes up more time than i care to give to any computer game nowadays.

and calling me a child? you're 22 and you just dyed your hair purple. you listen to music for 13 year olds. please stop.

_{libertarian benefit collector - anti-academic super-intellectual}. _{http://mixlr.com/the-little-phrase/}

2010-12-13 15:16:16

#18

FFLink: There is.; +1,380|6946|Devon, England

22 am I?

Wow, all these years I thought I was 20 D:

Now, Crybaby McGee, argue all you want. The fact is you play WoW.

Anything you say < Anything I say

Also, I love how this freaky thing you got going on now involves following my interests outside of BF2s. You should stop that, you weird little WoW nerd. Go play with your big-league boys

Now, if you don't mind, I'm busy kicking shit up with Jack Skellington in Kingdom Hearts.

Also, you're gay.

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2010-12-13 15:17:25

#19

Miggle: FUCK UBISOFT; +1,411|6997|FUCK UBISOFT

FFLink wrote:
22 am I?

Wow, all these years I thought I was 20 D:

Now, Crybaby McGee, argue all you want. The fact is you play WoW.

Anything you say < Anything I say

Also, I love how this freaky thing you got going on now involves following my interests outside of BF2s. You should stop that, you weird little WoW nerd. Go play with your big-league boys

Now, if you don't mind, I'm busy kicking shit up with Jack Skellington in Kingdom Hearts.

Also, you're gay.

http://www.meh.ro/wp-content/uploads/20 … ro5298.jpg

how many years have you thought you were 20? 2 perhaps?

2010-12-13 15:17:42

#20

Sturgeon: Member; +488|5196|Flintshire

You call someone childish then use the insult "you're gay".

Don't be surprised if Uzique doesn't reply...

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2010-12-13 15:18:39

#21

mtb0minime: minimember; +2,418|6909

It's on like King Kong's Donkey.

2010-12-13 15:25:06

#22

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6725

following your interests outside of bf2s?

you visited my last.fm profile. i subscribe. it shows me who visits. i said "who's this? coming to my profile?" i discovered it was you, because it was instantly apparent from the immense amounts of teen-emo faggotry on your profile. hence, a comment about your music taste is afforded.

you stated you dyed your hair purple in ee chats. i questioned the sanity of this, considering your age/maturity. you responded with the predictable queer-fag shit that i knew you would. hence, a comment about your hair is afforded.

am i 'stalking you'? lolz. am i a 'WoW geek'? lolz. i think i've played less than 5 hours in the last week, and that's following a major expansion release. i know, i know... how do i fit in such an amazing life around all the relentless grinding and raiding i do on WoW? it's hard, but i manage. one day, maybe, i'll write a book... and you'll be the first to buy it.

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2010-12-13 15:37:02

#23

FFLink: There is.; +1,380|6946|Devon, England

Wo wo wo, before I waste my precious, precious time reading any more of that bullshit:

I can't ever remember going on your Last.fm profile. If I did, it was probably many, many moons ago when that thread was created. And that's probably as serious a comment someone like you will ever get from me.

I really can't stress the lack of care I have for you, because I don't care. Following that, though, it's fun to see you all up-in-my-eface and pretending to be a pro, chillaxed trololol or whatever you crazy kids are on these days.

Thank you for your excuses. I appreciate your time. Now, continue to be inferior.

(You're doing great so far!)

2010-12-13 15:38:06

#24

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6725

lol.

_{libertarian benefit collector - anti-academic super-intellectual}. _{http://mixlr.com/the-little-phrase/}

2010-12-14 04:49:58

#25

UON: Junglist Massive; +223|6908

I'm on Mysidia. EU section lead on a large EU/NA shell (~126 members), and when the new Companies feature is introduced we're expecting to start moving towards more organised events. If you change your mind about Wutai, let me know and I can send you the website.

For me, I tend to try and avoid grinding when I play, preferring to do events like Leves and Behest (although 15 person is the current maximum size of a party so not too large scale). Mostly I prefer playing with people rather than against them, and single player games for me are for offline time (nothing like the looks you get on the train from the person next to you as you violently decapitate someone in Fallout).

In fact, straight grinding through levels is punished by this game as you gradually start to earn less skill points, eventually down to zero.

I don't think there are too many examples of poor design, it is more a case of poor implementation and incompleteness of the vision at launch. But those problems are being rapidly fixed and actually would only really bother you if you were a perfectionist fixated on them, rather than actually focusing on and enjoying the parts which are ready now The storylines are fun and rewarding, and the idea of new plot threads unfolding which each class you rank up is quite a good design in my opinion.

Whether or not any game is "good" is based on personal taste anyway, but stupid is not a term you can apply to the majority of the FFXIV community, given the length most players will go to in terms of maximising performance and understanding the mathematics that make up this game (and XI), and the innovative strategies and styles that develop which the designers could never have forseen when they originally put the pieces together.

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